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to think that my DSs should be allowed to eat what I give them at breaktime?

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lonelymom · 25/09/2008 17:47

My DSs school seems to have an unwritten rule that they are ONLY allowed fruit at breaktime. Problem is one of my DSs only eats bananas unsupervised. Any other fruit and I have to stand over him saying 'Git it down yer throat NOW!'. Anyway as his bananas have been coming home uneaten and bashed (even though he has a 'bananaguard' being the height of coolness that he is) I started to give him 'schoolbars' and apple crisps but he is coming home saying that his teacher will not let him eat them and he has to put them back in his bag . Now come on - these are a form of fruit , they contain lots of fruit anyway. I am furious about the apple crisps as these are essentially dried apple slices dipped in lemon juice. I have spoken to his teacher about this a few times and she has said that it's OK so I don't know what the hells going on. This nanny state we live in makes me bloody angry. I am a grown adult who should be able to decide what my kid eats!! If I want to give him a Mars Bar, I should be able to, fgs. By the way, my other DS (in a different class) gets to eat his.

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MsHighwater · 26/09/2008 21:12

FairLady, I'm sure that if all produce (or all that could be) was sourced from as near as possible, the price would come down. It's a bit of a bugbear of mine, tbh.

FairLadyRantALot · 26/09/2008 21:19

I think, that in the case of fresh produce it really is a matter of making sure the original sources have a good return for good quality and the processed food gets high tAXES TO PAY FOR THE GOOD ORIGINAL SOURSE,,,, sadly it would have to be law...soon he fast food market would simply not be justyfiable in the way it is and people's attitude would have to change...and then the return would come naturally because people would use the fresh stuff and learn how to use it in the original way, by learning from their family, but hopefully the eil of fast foods would remain remembered...
me...in utopua....nawwwww
really in a way the same way that breastfeeding should go....

FairLadyRantALot · 26/09/2008 21:22

sorry...am on laptop and have problems at times to get all the letters...hope the above mkaes sense

StewieGriffinsMom · 26/09/2008 21:27

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expatinscotland · 26/09/2008 21:30

our old building - of 2 bed flats - was full of families.

all working people, too, who couldn't afford houses in Edinburg of any sort.

we were a family of 4 in a two-bed flat.

when we lived in a council estate, there were a small number of homes that were over 2 beds.

the rest were all . . . flats. full of families.

StewieGriffinsMom · 26/09/2008 21:37

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expatinscotland · 26/09/2008 21:43

i could count on one hand the people i knew who lived in a home of over 2 beds, in fact.

that's a lot of why we moved for good.

StewieGriffinsMom · 26/09/2008 21:49

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expatinscotland · 26/09/2008 22:00

it just didn't seem to work for us because it seemed to get harder and harder for lower-wage working families, IYKWIM, or at least, it wasn't as good as it is for working families in other places, and we got an opportunity to move on.

it was sad, because DH had never lived anywhere else. he was born in the Western General.

and both of the girls were born at ERI.

and the ILs are there.

and we liked the museums and cultural stuff and shops and not having to have a car.

but we had to think about schools and housing and what was more affordable for us and hte like.

we'd not move back there unless there were a lotto win, because even renting a static caravan out here would be much bigger and far cheaper than what we could afford in Edinburgh, with a good school attached, and the council puts a lot of money and interest into families that are here and schools and programmes.

it's very much a community where neighbours know and look after each other and have a good time.

expatinscotland · 26/09/2008 22:01

it just didn't seem to work for us because it seemed to get harder and harder for lower-wage working families, IYKWIM, or at least, it wasn't as good as it is for working families in other places, and we got an opportunity to move on.

it was sad, because DH had never lived anywhere else. he was born in the Western General.

and both of the girls were born at ERI.

and the ILs are there.

and we liked the museums and cultural stuff and shops and not having to have a car.

but we had to think about schools and housing and what was more affordable for us and hte like.

we'd not move back there unless there were a lotto win, because even renting a static caravan out here would be much bigger and far cheaper than what we could afford in Edinburgh, with a good school attached, and the council puts a lot of money and interest into families that are here and schools and programmes.

it's very much a community where neighbours know and look after each other and have a good time.

AbbeyA · 26/09/2008 22:01

My LEA is investing in children's futures. They have improved the school meals with healthy, delicious, locally sourced food, they provide free fruit for infants and expect juniors to provide their own, children are allowed access to water all day and they have brain gym to start the day and more exercise in general. I can't think why parents then want to undermine it by keeping their 'rights' to give crisps and chocolate. It seems to be giving the children the wrong message by saying that fruit is something to be endured and a fruit product, cereal bar etc is much nicer!
I have never known it to be a problem, the DCs know the rules and are quite happy with it.

StewieGriffinsMom · 26/09/2008 22:14

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MsHighwater · 26/09/2008 22:16

AbbeyA, I think it gives children the wrong message if a school, subliminally, says "parents cannot be trusted to choose any food for you".

It's not about my "right to give crisps and chocolate". I am responsible for feeding my child well. I have a right to be left to fulfil it without hindrance and without my parental authority being undermined.

The fact that the dcs are "quite happy with it" is not exactly proof that it's right, is it? Throughout history, children have, on occasion, been taught to accept as normal all sorts of bizarre things.

Part of investing in children's futures would surely be promoting and reinforcing parental authority?

expatinscotland · 26/09/2008 22:19

oh, we lived right near Leith Links! DD1 used to go to nursery at St. Mary's! we loved the area. i loved it that we could just go out for a quick drinkie when my folks were in town and walk there.

the buses were great - i don't know why they needed trams.

i'd walk to the Co-op/Scotmid on Sunday mornings and get freshly baked stuff to eat.

the Lidl was fab, and all the little shops.

the best charity shops in town.

hop on the bus with the DDs and head over to a museum to give DH a break, or he'd hop on the no. 16 and head to his folks'.

TheCrackFox · 26/09/2008 22:28

Just caught this thread and I live at Leith Links. Just wanted to add that Edinburgh council hates families and would really like to keep Edinburgh for young professionals.

We would love to move but DHs hours (chef) are crazy so the commute would kill him.

School dinners are no longer prepared on site but at Portobello High. I do not want my boys eating re-heated gloop. Schools seem very good at hectoring us about our Dcs nutrition whilst at the same time trying to get away with the cheapest food possible for schoold dinners.

StewieGriffinsMom · 26/09/2008 22:30

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expatinscotland · 26/09/2008 22:32

there is a female MSP who visited Platinum Point, IIRC, or one of those other new developments and said all the housing there was 'for singletons who don't like to cook'.

our school dinners (Argyll and Bute council) are FAB.

they also get teeth brushing and tooth brushes, outdoor play time, all kinds of things.

the schools all have gardens and the kids grow food and several also raise livestock (not sold on for meat) as this is a rural area.

expatinscotland · 26/09/2008 22:34

btw, it was Leith Links Primary that had to put in strict rules about snacks and lunches because there was a lot of the Kit Kat lunch going on.

expatinscotland · 26/09/2008 22:34

btw, it was Leith Links Primary that had to put in strict rules about snacks and lunches because there was a lot of the Kit Kat lunch going on.

pointydog · 26/09/2008 22:36

I don't believe that o nly being allowed fruit for a snack is healthy.

TheCrackFox · 26/09/2008 22:39

Well the OP mentioned her DCs weren't allowed apple crisps and I think they do sound healthy. In P1 and P2 the Dcs were given free fruit at break and TBH it put DS1 off fruit as it as all bruised and a bit bleurghh. Took me ages to get him back on track. A lot of these healthy initiatives are badly funded and destined to fail.

expatinscotland · 26/09/2008 22:41

i made apple crisps from some of the apples off the tree in the back garden.

i put them in the deep fat fryer and then sprinkled them with cinammon and sugar whilst they were hot.

the girls loved them .

StewieGriffinsMom · 26/09/2008 22:42

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Sophrosyne1 · 26/09/2008 22:44

I don't understand what problem is... banana is a fruit, have a banana. Problem solved.

StewieGriffinsMom · 26/09/2008 22:44

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