To think nursing is not considered a 'profession' by the general public

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We just mop up sick and wipe brows and all that

Do people really consider the nursing profession as 'educated' and on a par with other degree trained professions?

Or should nurses be defined as 'caring' principally, not allowing aspiartions of status to undermine this ideal?

What do doctors really think of nurses?

Just interested

i think most people think they just clean up sick and piss.

it's not a profession.
a dr is a professional, a nurse is not.

It's becoming more so now that there are nurse prescribers. They are practically taking over the GP role in the community.

If you read the very top of the wiki entry, does it not state that factual accuracy of this article may be compromised by out of date information?

So everybody who is using wikipedia as their reference point in the argument as to whether or not nurses are professionals, are using flawed and therefore inaccurate information.

standard disclaimer I would have thought
actuall I'm using my brain backed up with evidence it's what professionals do! [catty emoticon]

CodCakes, can't remember the last time I cleaned up sick and piss.

That's why nurses aren't taken seriously, I wish my working life was as simple as that!

PMSL at Cod.Don't forget the shite and blood,or even worse the bloody shite.Oh and pus and phlegm.

(When I did my training they still had those hugre glass suction cannisters n wheels on a trolley thing and I dunno what I did to upset the Sister but she made me clean out the suction bottle full of mucous.Yuk it still haunts me today.Thank christ for the plastic disposable efforts we have today)

1dilemma, so why quote flawed information then, if you are so professional

standard disclaimer
ask a lawyer

Shit... Piss... Blood... Pus... Phlegm....

I remember them. How unpleasant....

(lounging about in office pretending to be busy emoticon)

Fanjolina, thanks a lot!!

I thought I had buried those memories in a deep, dark place, never to see daylight again.
Can now remember being made to spend an afternoon scrubbing commodes with toothbrushes along with all the other junior students (was 2nd ward)

lol retired goth do you have a clipboard?

I think Cod was being her usual inflammatory self,Cali

I do think that people have quite old fashioned views of what Nursing entails,in fact it has such a breadth nowadays with so many areas and specialisations that it is quite difficult to quantify.Not only is there the practical stuff and ongoing CPD but so much time is taken up in liasing with other professionals/agencies planning and organising admissons/discharge/MDT meetings/mentoring students/teaching sessions to name a few and good old fashioned direct patient care and still doing 6 impossible things before breakfast.

Theres never enough time or my time management is just particularly shocking.

standard disclaimers don't work in nursing, we use evidence based practice.

...I have LOTS of clipboards.

...and a special computer to make sure we don't do anything really bad like breach a Government target.

If that looks like happening I have to use a very special skill...

....lying.

Now retiredgoth you have that same skill as me

wot like commodes get cleaner with toothbrushes

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please tell me you cut and pasted that!

Jeez Cali,I hope that was a cut and paste otherwise you have missed your vocation (profession) and should have become a speed typist,or possibly a lawyer

TBH I think that CodCakes is an Imposter.

Cali said:

'1. Degree

1. Specialist qualification

1. In order to practice, have to belong to regulatory body - NMC

1. CPD.

sounds like a lot of professions doesn't it?'

Yes, anyone who says otherwise is probably rather silly and up themselves regarding their place in life. Yet would be very grateful for the attention of a well trained and committed nurse when their child needed it.

In the end it's just a label.

.....though these days I rarely get control of the clipboards

....instead working as an A and E Nurse Practitioner seeing the walk-in patients.

I describe myself as a "Triviatrician"

Does that count as professional??

No?

Ah well

my other profession is a speed typist