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to think it's ridiculous that the new nursery curriclum says kids must

138 replies

furrycat · 04/09/2008 08:57

...play outside whatever the weather?

I don't go out when it's chucking it down, so why should my kids?

My two ds play outside in tne nursery's garden twice a day. It's a mudbath so they need TWO changes of clothing a day which means the washing machine is on constantly.

I've also searched high and low for wellies but all the shops are still full of back to school shoes and the only ones I can find are £17.

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Anna8888 · 04/09/2008 10:43

What a ridiculous rule. As a SAHM I didn't not only not feel the need to take my child out for 50% of the day in the depths of midwinter, I would have been off my head to do so - what on earth would we have done? Tramped the streets in the pouring rain?

Fimbo · 04/09/2008 10:44

Will Tiktok think what you will - I do.

Our supervisor doesn't allow the children inside.

Anna8888 · 04/09/2008 10:45

tiktok - you are quite wrong, you know. Getting physically cold does make you more likely to catch an ENT infection.

VictorianSqualor · 04/09/2008 10:52

LOL.
You can't catch a cold from being cold, or wet.
Seriously look it up
Start here then read here. You could also read this and this.
There is much more on the web if you look for it yourself, oh and one of those links is from Harvard, another from the NYtimes, with plenty of cited research, I made care to ignore things like wiki answers and yahoo.

Anna8888 · 04/09/2008 10:55

VS - no, you can't catch a cold from being cold.

But if you are cold (especially extremities), you are more likely to catch a cold or other ENT infection.

Fimbo · 04/09/2008 10:57

Sorry you can quote all you like at me, but i know my own body and it does happen.

nailpolish · 04/09/2008 10:58

it can make you more susceptible but its not the cause of the cold

LOL

VictorianSqualor · 04/09/2008 10:59

Having a lower body temperature can make you slightly more susceptible to catching infections from people but you have to be with someone who has the infection in the first place.

witchandchips · 04/09/2008 10:59

If they don't get outside when would they get a chance to take some the serious exercise they need for themsleves and to stop them getting out of control in the class room. Pre-schoolers are like large dogs they go stir crazy without a chance to run around.

Fimbo · 04/09/2008 11:00

Thats it NP/Anna.

VictorianSqualor · 04/09/2008 11:03

Thing is, in a reception/nursery environment being in an artificially heated area with dry air (from the school heating) you would be more likely to catch a cold than outside in the wet because the classroom would be a perfect breeding ground, plus so many children in such close proximity would increase the likelihood of catching something.

Anna8888 · 04/09/2008 11:03

witchandchips - I agree that a lot of childcare accommodation (nurseries or CM's homes) is very cramped.

tiktok · 04/09/2008 11:04

Open to new knowledge that being cold at the extremities causes ENT infections - please post a reference

Even if it was true - then what about wearing gloves, mittens, socks, wellies, hats, waterproofs?

Anna8888 · 04/09/2008 11:04

VS - actually, the really bad thing is constantly switching between the two environments - hot and germy versus cold and wet.

tiktok · 04/09/2008 11:10

So it's nothing to do with being cold at the extremities, then, Anna????

Answer is to keep kids inside at all times, then, is it, to prevent them going in and out from one environment to another?

Please post references to show that children who have free access to the outside during nursery sessions, and who can go in and out, are more susceptible to colds than children whose outdoor play is restricted.

HonoriaGlossop · 04/09/2008 11:10

I saw a documentary a while back about a french village primary and the kids were chucked in their coats and sent out to play in really quite heavy rain...the teacher stuck his head out the door when a fight began but that was about it.....other than that he was obv in the staff room smoking gauloise and drinking wine

we're alot kinder/more mollycoddling over here......

Fimbo · 04/09/2008 11:11

We get the message Tiktok.

SoupDragon · 04/09/2008 11:13

Apparently it is impossible to catch a cold in Siberia because it's too cold for the virus.

Anna8888 · 04/09/2008 11:14

No I cannot be arsed to go over the colds arguments yet again.

Honoria - in France children get sent out in the cold to play at school but they are wrapped up much more warmly than in England - mittens, hats with ear flaps, scarves, leather boots for quite small children.

Fimbo · 04/09/2008 11:14

Moves to Siberia before leaving thread.

SoupDragon · 04/09/2008 11:15

Let's put our children in a hermetically sealed bubble which stays at a constant temperature and level of dampness.

I honestly believed that all this mollycoddling wrt weather, dirt, diet etc has screwed up our immune systems.

Anna8888 · 04/09/2008 11:17

Why SoupDragon? People live on average much longer, healthier lives than ever before in history and better hygiene and protection from the elements has much to do with it. Our immune systems aren't naturally as fabulous as all that you know. Far fewer children die in infancy than in the past because they are kept warm, clean and inside.

AbbeyA · 04/09/2008 11:19

I think it is great for them to get outside for some part of the day. They get to use up some energy, run around and it blows the cobwebs away! As long as they are dressed appropriately small children don't mind the weather.

MarmadukeScarlet · 04/09/2008 11:20

Re wellies, I have bought the last few years wellies from the charity shop - one were a fab pair of GAP ones with frogs all over and little handles at the top to help them on. Never been warn by the looks of it and 50p.

DS (last yr) went to 2 nurseries, so 2 pairs and one pair for home. I am not shelling out even £6 per pair for something that gets so little wear before feet grow.

Get some muddy puddles dungarees and stop using your washing machine so much!

almostblue · 04/09/2008 11:20

And because of all the lovely vaccines of course!

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