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AIBU?

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to not want DH to lie to insurance company?

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bluenosebear · 02/09/2008 10:37

Seriously, AIBU? We've got a tele, its about 10 years old but it works. It's not great, and we'd love an HDTV. I'm quite happy to save up and buy one, but a few times now, DH has turned round and said "But that's what insurance is for." I was under the impression that insurance is for the unexpected, not to try and get a freebie because you want it. He wants to tell the insurance company we were moving it and dropped it, or a vase of water went down the back or something. He keeps saying things like "Oh but BIL has done it...everyone at work has done it". I argue back, saying I think it's wrong, and if we get found out it will make getting future insurance difficult, to which he replies that they don't investigate claims under £700.

He's making me feel like I'm the unreasonable one, that we could get a free T.V because everone does it. Do they?? Is this what insurance companies expect? His work colleagues have nearly got him convinced it's a good idea. I'm not comfortable with being dishonest, and while I'm not anywhere near being a saint this leaves me feeling quite unhappy. Should I let him get on with it, or stick to my guns as I view it as stealing? Am I being too goody-goody? Please set my mind at rest and tell me that I'm quite right not to want to lie to our insurers!

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TheHedgeWitch · 02/09/2008 13:55

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thefortbuilder · 02/09/2008 18:13

oblomov i know so many people do it - my old bosses wife was a classic for it - the amount of jewellery that he had bought her that she hated that got left in hotel rooms, in restaurant toilets when she washed her hands, came off whilst swimming etc was unbelievable. and she'd word the claim that it would all be reasonable and got a payout 99% of the time. except the time she lost something she really liked and actually did lose it, and they refused to pay out i think pretty much on the principle that it was just once too many

kitbit · 02/09/2008 18:15

People who do this make the cost of insurance go way up for everyone else.
It's fraud and illegal.
And bad karma.
Could you really sit and watch your new telly in good conscience knowing that you got it dishonestly?

mother2two · 02/09/2008 20:12

Insurance fraud is a criminal (as oppose to civil) crime under the The Fraud Act 2006 (2006 c.35). The Fraud Act is an Act of Parliament in the United Kingdom, affecting England and Wales and Northern Ireland. It was given Royal Assent on 8th November 2006, and came into effect on 15th January 2007.

Go to en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fraud_Act_2006 for further details.

Criminal record? yeh or neh? Risk it all for an HDTV?

Really not worth it.

Slickbird · 02/09/2008 20:18

No offence, but it's people like him, that make people like us, pay higher premiums. People that do that are arseholes. No one likes paying insurance, but that's life.

Stick to your guns.

mother2two · 02/09/2008 20:19

Also read www.lloyds.com/Lloyds_Worldwide/International_compliance_news/The_Fraud_Act_2006.htm

"In insurance, the offence of false representation could include claims fraud when, by a dishonest false representation, the claimant intends to make a gain for themselves."

pagwatch · 02/09/2008 20:26

yep
the fraudulaent claims are part of the reason that premiums get increased.
And insurers now keep quite good records and share information.
You could well get away with the tv thing. And then the next month you genuinely get robbed and then you have a fire.

Having a big claim with a clean record is usually fine. Having a big claim when you have pushed through a couple of conveient ones may be much more of a problem for you.

You would be surprised at how often insurers and loss adjusters find stuff...
And once insurers say no you have to declare that on every insurance application for ever

I wouldn't risk it.

Chequers · 02/09/2008 20:29

Sorry if this has already been said but don't some companies use some kind of lie-detecting software now or have I been watching too much Jeremy Kyle?

solo · 03/09/2008 18:05

That happened to my parents the hedgewitch. My mum was sitting at her computer when lightening struck, it missed her nose by millimetres and destroyed practically everything electrical! including the phones!

cmotdibbler · 03/09/2008 20:43

The insurers now often use quite sophisticated techniques to detect fraud, and are particularly suspicious of incidents involving TVs. Some of this is automated speech analysis software, supplemented by the claims teams knowledge of what a real claim sounds like.

DH has been involved in prosecuting a number of people for insurance fraud, and if you have a claim even refused (where they don't prosecute) then it will be impossible to get insurance for anything in the future

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