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To think that it is NOT OK for DH to pop a codeine tablet on a Sunday afternoon because he was bored, and not tell me about it?

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LineInTheSand · 14/08/2008 10:06

I noticed that one (now I can see two) tablets were missing late last night. I checked them because I was suspicious about whether he was taking tablets on the sly (a box of valium we got in Mexico on our honeymoon disappeared slowly despite his never telling me that he'd taken a tablet, and despite my never having taken one). I am particularly upset because (a) he didn't tell me; (b) he did it during the day when we were playing with our son, who is 16 months old; (c) we've been struggling with trust issues relating to his drinking problem, and just the day before he'd taken DS out and had a beer, and lied to me about it when I asked him if he was drinking a beer, and fessed up later when they got home (this despite a rule that he NEVER, EVER drink when DS is in his sole charge).

Sorry, this is getting long. I confronted him about it this morning. At first he was defensive, like it's no big deal. Then I convinced him that, yes, in light of (a) through (c) above, it is a big deal. Then he tried to say that it's not that much codeine, and wanted to compare it with a Nurofen Plus (12.5mg, I just checked). Then he apologized, and said that he realized it was not okay, and he wouldn't do it again. Then I brought up his mother, who routinely got pissed/off her head on drugs when he and his brother were boys, to such an extent that (with father absent completely) they had to look after themselves at a very young age. I said, think of that as one end of a spectrum, and get yourself completely to the other end. He said he understood, and he is working on it.

More background: he is in therapy for anger management and communication of emotion issues that relate to the drinking. He's been working really hard on it, and I've seen major improvements (despite these two setbacks over the weekend) in his ability to communicate and control his drinking.

So I guess my question is not, am I being unreasonable, because I am pretty damn sure I am not, but what do I do now? When has it gone too far? Bearing in mind that things are actually getting a lot better, and I do love him completely, but also at times think of how much easier life would be if he'd just get hit by a bus. It's also relevant to know that his drinking put DS in danger twice in the past - once when DS was about 8 months DH dropped him while trying to put him on his shoulders. He was completely pissed at the time. The second time DS was probably 11 months old and I went to a show with my mum and DH was looking after DS on his own, got completely drunk after DS was asleep, then DS woke up and DH rocked him back to sleep but passed out in the chair. When I got him, DH was covered in a pool of his own piss, DS was soaked in it, too, and had just woken up and was about to fall onto the floor off of DH's lap. DH did not wake up until I shook him awake after retrieving DS.

We are now six months down the road from those awful incidents. Things have improved, but there are obviously still issues. DH is in therapy, he does seem to be getting better, but still this has happened, and I don't know where to draw the line in the sand - it feels like it keeps moving.

I've changed my name to protect my privacy. TIA.

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SueMunch · 14/08/2008 12:35

I think that you should approach this with some understanding as he is clearly progressing with his drink problem.

Taking the codeine probably didn't seem a big deal to him at the time as he has cut down the drinking.

I do find the idea of 'buying valium on our honeymoon' quite bizarre though. It would be the last thing on my mind on what should be one of the most special times in your life, but I'm not judging you for that (lots of people go through drug experiences, including me).

What you should realise is that there is a precident for taking drugs (however harmless) in your relationship and although you have clearly grown out of it and moved on, many men take years to adjust to the changes that fatherhood bring. The responsibility can make them scared and in many ways many of the relationship problems on discussed on MN stem from this.

I think sympathy and regular talking would help you both move on.

LineInTheSand · 15/08/2008 15:49

Thanks everyone for your responses. I am definitely trying to take a more compassionate and gentle/understanding approach to these issues rather than hounding or mothering him. At times, however, I feel the need to remind him how important these things are, and that I expect him to continue to move forward - otherwise, our family suffers.

I have emptied the house of all drugs except paracetemol and nurofen, plus other harmless remedies for common maladies (no pain pills).

He is a musician, but he hasn't played since DS was really small and he had to quit because we had no time. Now he's interested in getting back into music, and I've been trying to encourage him to join or start a band so he can get that creative outlet back. He just not the same person without it.

I think I need to find support from other people going through similar issues, so I might think about attending al-anon or somesuch. Sometimes that just makes me feel like things are all too real, and I have a problem blowing things out of proportion already.

Thanks again for all of the helpful responses.

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PoorOldEnid · 15/08/2008 15:53

agree with morning paper

why on earth have them in the house?

tbh after a day with 3 kids and a broken foot (mine) the idea of a valium sounds blardy fantastic

PoorOldEnid · 15/08/2008 15:53

suemunch speaks much sense

Monkeytrousers · 15/08/2008 16:00

Oh dear. My erstwhile ex-ds had a codiene problem, he graduated to Tramadol, likes any type of otc drug that will give him a little opioid buzz, though he's never been a drinker thank god.

People are so ignorant about codiencfe, though I think it only affects certain people - it never did anything for me, for instance.

If he will go to the doctor and talk about drug counselling then get him to. IF not, I'd be inclined to give him the fright of his life and ask him to leave as you don't want you or your kids living with an addict for the rest of their lives. The time away will give him a chance to discover what means more to him.

I say this after years of a softly softly approach that got us no where.

Hold your never if you kick him out. He will perhasp tell you he has stopped but ask for proof, go to the docs with him and take some time to let him back into the family home. Be strong. You really don;t want to be living with an addict for the rest of your life!

Monkeytrousers · 15/08/2008 16:02

Typo - Hold your nerve if you kick him out.

also be prepared to give him up. That's the bottom line sorry

Monkeytrousers · 15/08/2008 16:07

Okay, just caught uop with the rest of the thread. It sounds to me like a trial seperation might help - with him continuing to go for couselling and also the both of you going to Relate so he can get the picture of how this affects you - addicts can become v narcissistic and like being the centre of attention all the time - it's somethimes why they actually can't go that last mile and just be normal like the f*cking rest of us....sorry.

If you can imagine a better happier life without him don't let that go. I know you love him. But love, I'm sorry to say in these situations, is not enough.

Your first responsibity is towards your kids. He is a grown up and needs to take resposibility for himself.

Monkeytrousers · 15/08/2008 16:16

Adn not having them in the house won't help. You can buy them anywehere and hide them.

To be v honest, I would be very wary that he is not actually taking something stronger (valium, tramadol, etc) and using normal codiene to top up the buzz, which is what dp (sorry, said ds before) used to do.

He was buying them on the internet. I checked his bank statements when I suspected.

He's still an addict in search of a buzz. You are right, the counselling does seem to have stalled.

And be careful if you do have a trial spit - for a while the aderenolin present from the stress of the split will help keep him off drugs. He needs to settle down into everyday life and still keep off them to make sure it's worked.

And don;t despair of you do split up. There are always happier times around the corner. Adn he will laways be their dad so you are only saying goodbye to living with him, not losing him from your life forever.

I'll stop posting now. It has just brought everything back for me. You sound strong enough to do this. It will be hard, but keep the goal fixed in your head in moments of (inevitable) weakness.

Good luck

LineInTheSand · 15/08/2008 16:24

Thank you Monkeytrousers. I appreciate your taking yourself back to that place to give me this advice. I will keep a very close eye on him; at this stage, he knows he must stay on the mend to keep his family together, and I know that is really want he wants. He's been seeing a therapist every single week and actually asked to continue seeing the guy because he feels like he's making solid progress. I feel that, for him, the best way to see this through is to give him this chance to get back on his feet. It may be slow going, but I feel strong enough (with my mum living with us) to hang in there.

We have been seeing a couple's counselor, but we put those sessions on hold so that he could see his therapist weekly. Also, my mum leaves in October for two or three months, so I'll be bracing myself for that time, as I'll be very much dealing with things on my own. Hopefully we'll be in a better place by then.

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cherrylips · 16/08/2008 09:51

I agree with Elliot, you are Not being unreasonable. Codeine and Nurefen are additive, just like alcohol.

moondog · 16/08/2008 09:56

Since when was buying pharmaceuticals in Mexico 'a normal thing to do'?

nappyaddict · 17/08/2008 00:56

sorry i thought he had taken a nurofen plus. is that not what he took? still don't think having one drink is a problem though.

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