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I probably am but I don't want ds to go to Ireland for 5 days with his dad because....

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AvenaLife · 27/07/2008 22:49

his dad moved 5 years ago because he was bored. He origionally said he'd fly over and see ds once a month. This has never happened. He's seen ds twice this year, once last year, not at all the year before. He only phones at christmas and ds's birthday, he's written once and never emailed ds. He wants ds to go and spend a week with him. I mind a little but I know it will be nice for ds to spend time with his dad and stepmum, however, his dad never responds to emails, I've asked him to confirm a date so I know when he wants ds to go, he's not done this. I've also asked him to find out whether ds needs a passport. He's not done this either. I've also asked him (several times) if he could phone/write/email ds every couple of weeks to ask him how he is and show ds that he's interested in him. He's not done this either. I don't want ds to leave his home and me for someone that can't be bothered to phone him. He does pay regular maintenance wich makes a small dent in what I pay out for ds every month but other then this we get nothing. Am I being unreasonable here? ds is 9 by the way, I've always looked after him by myself after his dad left before he as born. I want ds to have a relationship with him but I can't just be expected to hand him over to someone who ds doesn't know.

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elmoandella · 28/07/2008 21:06

hhhhmmmmmmm may start new thread to see if anyone knows what would happen if he took them to italy

chipmonkey · 28/07/2008 21:17

Does he definitely need a passport? I've never had to show my passport flying between Ireland and the UK.

stleger · 28/07/2008 21:23

He would need photo id though wouldn't he chipmonkey? So a passport is the obvious item for a child. Do British Airways still do unaccompanied minors, Ryanair and Aer Lingus don't.

AvenaLife · 28/07/2008 21:26

He's not old enough for a driving licence . I'll go with him, his dad will have to wait until I have the money to take him so he'll have to come here if he wants to see him in the meantime.

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CuckooClockWise · 28/07/2008 21:50

I think the child requires a passport if it has a different sur name to the adult travelling with them. My children have a different sur name to me, and I have been asked for their passports by Ryanair. Definitely for the older child.

Crazy, that Ryanair seem to over rule the British and Irish governments' reciprocal arrangement not to require passports, but there you go, Ryanair, talk to the hand!

CuckooClockWise · 28/07/2008 21:53

Avenalife, keep a record of all the emails letting him no "you may visit DC here".

You are not obstructing relationship, you are trying to facilitate it, within the constraints of your budget..

AvenaLife · 28/07/2008 21:59

There was a news report on the TV last week about the boarder control between England and Ireland, saying they were planning on tightening it. ds has my surname, I can't understand why his dad's so insistent on me sending him the documents to he can send them back to England. It doesn't make sense. I have written alot of emails to him asking him to make more contact with ds and asking for dates when he is free so I can take ds over.

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CuckooClockWise · 28/07/2008 22:02

hmmm, what documents is he looking for? is he named on the birth cert?

In Ireland, HIS country, unmarried fathers have fewer rights even than they do in the UK btw. Just wondering what documents he could be after....

AvenaLife · 28/07/2008 22:08

He's not Irish. He's English. He moved there 5 years ago because he was bored. He used to see ds every week until he left. He wants ds's birth certificate, he's named as his father. He also wants the form. I can't see why he wants me to post it to him so he can post it back to the UK. When ds was first registered at a nursery, I gave him the forms to hand in when he collected ds, he'd filled the blanks regarding ds's carers hmself, making it look as if we had shared care/were together. The bills were in his name although I paid them . I don't want ds to be registered as if he has shared care, nor do I want him to take him whenever he can be bothered. I can't understand why he wants the form other then to fill in the part about ds's father IYSWIM.

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CuckooClockWise · 28/07/2008 22:12

I had trouble getting my children Irish passports because their father was named on their birth certs. He wouldn't oblige by providing me with the necessary signature, and as he IS named on their birth cert, the only way round that would be if he were DEAD and even then, I'd need to provide his death certificate!

I had to get the Affadavit (link above) signed by a solicitor and send it off with my passport applications.

It may be possible to have a UK and an Italian passport, I don't know, but on the Irish passport application form, it asked you to declare if you already held another passport.... so I didn't like the way that quesiton was going!

AvenaLife · 28/07/2008 22:16

Hmm. I see your problem. Could you jump in and renew them before he has chance?

My neighbour has a tosser ex, she's written to the passport office notifying them that her ds's father may apply for a passport without her consent and she has full custody of their child. In the UK they only require the mother's details if the parents are not together.

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