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Would it be very unreasonable to tell you all how clever DS1 is?

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Squirdle · 18/07/2008 21:19

He got level 7 for English and Science and level 8 for Maths in his Yr 9 SATS

Tis the highest he could have got (apparently Yr 9 can't get higher than a level 7 for English and Science as of this year)

So I am boasting about my clever, lovely, funny, wonderful boy

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WendyWeber · 19/07/2008 09:29

The Y9 grade 5 is not the same as the Y6 grade 5, threadworm, if that was what was confusing you - I thought the whole point of SATs originally was that they went through the grades as they got older so their progress could be easily observed but apparently not

WendyWeber · 19/07/2008 09:36

DS2 also got 7 for English and Science and 8 for Maths - last year - and is in top set for Maths (nothing else is setted) but will be doing purely Arts/Humanities at A level; he wants to be a journalist so A level Maths no use for him either even if he wanted to (which he doesn't )

Threadwworm · 19/07/2008 18:30

Thanks wendyweber. The SATS confuse the hell out of me. Esp recently. But v. many congrats to Squirdleboy on his brill results.

KaSo · 19/07/2008 18:31

Year 9's are actually expected to get Level 6. Most able Yr 6's get 5's at age 11.

WendyWeber · 19/07/2008 19:12

No, they're not, KaSo - hence our confusion

By the age of 11, most children are expected to achieve level 4/By the age of 14, most children are expected to achieve level 5

WilfSell · 19/07/2008 19:34

Ooh, well done Squirdle junior. Can I just hijack though to join in the proudfest? DS1 (Year 4 and level 4 in maths and science) just Won. A. Maths. Cup....

It was terrifying how proud and tearful I was. And confirmation of how AWFUL I am that I was also grinning from ear to ear that he held it aloft and shouted 'Hey guys, I've won the School Prize for Maths!' at the top of his voice when he came into the playground. All the other parents saw...

christywhisty · 19/07/2008 23:05

Well Done Little Squirdle

My little boast, DS is Year 7 and managed a level 7 for science in his end of year exams.

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Squirdle · 20/07/2008 12:44

Wow, Wilf, that's fab I love the fact that all of my boys are good at the maths side of things. I hated maths (although I did pass my GCSE...just ) DH is very good at it though.

All these clever children - it's fab

KaSo, not that many Yr 6's get a level 5. DS did, so I suppose we always expected him to well in Yr 9. But as Wendy has said, the expected level at yr 6 is level 4 and the highest they can achieve is level 5. The expected level at Yr 9 is 5. It is only a guideline though I suppose.

Anyway, at the end of the day it doesn't actually matter what level they achieve as long as they have done their best, that's all I would ask from my children.

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Gobbledigook · 20/07/2008 12:50

Agree - don't make him do maths unless he loves it. Who needs to know about integration or differentiation?

roisin · 20/07/2008 12:53

Congratulations Squirdle: that's great! Well done him

In KS2 SATs my ds1 just got 5a (the highest you can get) in all three subjects. I'm very proud of him and I hate the fact that I feel I can't tell anyone (boast) about it, except close family.

WendyWeber · 20/07/2008 13:07

Well done to DS1 too, roisin!

(Am not at all surprised )

Lilymaid · 20/07/2008 13:12

Great results. If he is still happy to do Maths A Level when he is older I would recommend it as it is probably the most highly rated A Level academically.

snorkle · 20/07/2008 13:58

Well done to mini squirdle, roisin & wilf .

I think maths can be quite an easy A level if you are that way inclined.

bamboostalks · 20/07/2008 15:32

WendyWeber The year 9 grade 5 is the same as the year 6 grade 5.

WendyWeber · 20/07/2008 18:19

But a Y6 couldn't possibly achieve level 5 in a Y9 SAT paper, because it covers things they haven't done...

I saw a table about this once but I can't find it now.

Remotew · 20/07/2008 18:33

A level 8 in maths is fantastic. We got Maths and Science results on Friday. DD got 7 in Science and 7 in maths, thought she might have got up to an 8. A few did all boys! I'm very pleased with her as she has only been in top set maths this year. The teacher read them out and now she knows she isn't in the bottom half of the set as some got 6's, so that's good for her confidence. She's just been moved up to top set English.

OK enough boasting from me .

snorkle · 20/07/2008 18:38

A few children do seem to be able to do stuff in maths without being taught it though Wendy.

MrsWeasley · 20/07/2008 18:38

Well done to Squirdles big boy.

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Squirdle · 20/07/2008 21:30

Aww you are all very sweet

I am very proud of him and am not ashamed to tell the world

I have the same feeling about the Maths A level in that, if he finds Maths easy, then it'll be an easy ish one for him to get....and it does look good. Obviously at the end of the day it is up to him but I do want him to gain some academic qualifications as he is naturally gifted. I think he will do English anyway.

He desperately wants to work in the theatre and he could, he is a great actor, but we want him to keep his options open.

Hopefully he'll be the next Brad Pitt

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bamboostalks · 20/07/2008 21:32

All levels are supposed to be equal, so level 3s in KS1 sats are equivalent to level 3s in KS2 sats. To achieve a level 5 in maths at KS2 you need around 79% but at KS3 you only need around 44% (the level boundaries change). In practice, they are not as equivalent as they should be but they are supposed to be.

lilolilmanchester · 20/07/2008 21:38

Well done son of squirdle! Genuinely pleased for him. OK, so know I am about to get jumped on but but my DS goes to a selective (state)grammar, and these are "normal" grades for lots of kids in this school. Your DS has still done well, but just want you to put it into context. Once experienced a parent boasting about their DC's (very good) 11+ score and it was lower than the scores of the DCs of the people they were boasting to. Really, very pleased for you, just want to save you any embarrassment in real life and hope you take this in the manner it's intended.

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Squirdle · 21/07/2008 18:13

Ok Lilo FWIW, DS did get into a selective grammar school after passing his 11+ (with a very good result) but we chose to move to Hampshire instead of staying in London just before he started secondary school.

The school he goes, although not grammar, has excellent results pretty much on par with grammar schools. So these results are fairly normal for his school too.

I actually don't boast about how well DS does, I don't really need to. Everyone in RL knows how bright he is and always has been.

I am trying not to take what you have said out of context, but I am confused at what you trying to say. Do you mean that the results that DS got are very average in your sons school or that most of the children get these grades.

Just to clarify, I have always been a believer that all children are gifted in one way or another. I would never assume my children are better than anyone elses and this is something we have always instilled into our sons.

I am just, plain and simply, proud of my wonderful son! (and he is wonderful in many, many ways)

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Squirdle · 21/07/2008 18:16

They can't actually get higher than a level 7 in English and Science and level 8 in Maths, even if they are at a grammar school. SATS are the same throughout the country!

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Judy1234 · 21/07/2008 18:33

A clever boy. Make sure he does good A levels. Surely a better way into acting is a good degree at Cambridge or Oxford and then taking part in all the student performing arts / acting things, footlights etc. If you analyse some of Britain's best actors, TV people etc it's often their time there that got them going as much as anything else. That would give him the best of all worlds and if he changes his minds about acting he can always become a banker when he graduates.

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Squirdle · 21/07/2008 20:43

Thankyou Xenia. You are right, he needs to do good A levels. We have talked to him about getting a good education at all levels as he can get into acting in other ways. We don't want him to waste that brain he has and hopefully he understands that. I know that at the end of the day it will be purely his decision, but our job is to guide him.

I have just told him exactly what you have said and he seems to have taken it on board

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