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To think a fine would sort this problem out

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Fatandknowit · 27/10/2026 22:17

Headlights.

Far too many cars aren't dipping their headlights. I know of several people (directly and indirectly) who dont even know what the little wheel with numbers does!

Driving home this evening and was on a notoriously quiet but dark and narrow road with parked cars either side. A mini pulled in and allowed me to pass. Their headlights were so unbelievable dazzling that I physically couldnt see my surroundings/parked cars. It was like putting a torch inside my eyelids. I took my time and thankfully got through with no bother but they flashed to tell me i was too slow or I have room as I was creeping past, which is how I know they didnt have high beams on by mistake. They could obviously see me just fine - because mine are dipped - and probably thought I was a brand spanking new or overly cautious driver or something (I'm really not!)

There's nothing wrong with my eyesight or spatial awareness.

Another example, driving through a dark tunnel and the car behind was blinding me through my rear view mirror, so much so that I had to move my mirror.

Im not talking SUVs in these examples, we all know they're terrible for it due to height differences regardless, I'm talking ordinary hatchbacks/saloons.

I think I can confidently say that everyone these days hates car headlights, but if people knew how to set them correctly that would at least help. Would the threat of a fine reduce these occurences?

IABU - Nope. Nothing to do with end user. All headlights are shite. End of story.
IANBU - Yep. That would actually help or at least reduce some of the issues.

OP posts:
user1471538275 · 28/10/2026 09:53

Fines in general don't work.

Rich people don't care, poor people don't pay which incentivises both to ignore the rules.

Middle income people are most affected and least likely to break the rules because of this.

Plus it's a manufacturing issue - not the choice of drivers.

Fatandknowit · 28/10/2026 18:20

Thanks everyone. Opinions on the fine are closely split but at least pretty much everyone agrees they're a problem so I feel better about posting! It just gets to a point where you start thinking hmhow can we bloody sort this out!

Also, just for total clarification - some PPs realise that the wheel with numbers I referred to was indeed the angle - I'm not talking about auto-dipped lights. My car does that too. Nor am I talking about how to turn full beam to dipped via the stalk. It's the angle of the dip that a lot of people dont realise can (and often should) be changed. Especially with newer cars who assume its all automatic.

Roll on new legislation!

OP posts:
notanothernamesurely · 28/10/2026 18:21

Yeh loads of people flash at me to dip mine when they are dipped. Just v bright and very white light. It is annoying

PhilosophicalCheeseSandwich · 28/10/2026 18:32

The headlights in my car adjust their position automatically and they're matrix lights - the sort with lots of leds that operate individually and dim in sections. This is the same for lots of more modern cars. I've been flashed a couple of times.

The only time I've felt dazzled by an oncoming vehicle has been by trucks or tractors with big, high lights. I find it hard to look around them like I can with cars, vans etc.

catmum44 · 28/10/2026 19:51

I drive a very low sports car. Everything dazzles me as I'm in the headlight beam of most cars!
Especially from behind.
I've tried yellow anti-dazzle glasses but they don't work as the whole night world turns orange.
Just live with it.
Fines would be unenforceable - how many cops are cruising dark lanes? Modern bulbs are very bright even when 'dipped'

JJWT · 28/10/2026 20:25

You dont mean dipped, I think you mean poorly adjusted. Most problem lights look like main beans but its actually maladjustment of the normal "dipped" setting. To pass an MOT headlamps must point down and to the left. God knows how so many cars are driving around with this set wrong! Totally agree something needs to be done about it.

likelysuspect · 28/10/2026 20:29

Bringbackbuffy · 28/10/2026 00:37

I think most peoples are set correctly OP, it’s an MOT fail to have them angled too high or low

New cars dont have an MOT for 3 years do they?

Skdkhvyvrhej · 28/10/2026 20:31

Bringbackbuffy · 27/10/2026 23:12

I think part of the issue here is the design of the Mini headlights. When I drove a mini I used to get flashed by so many other cars who assumed I had my full beams on, so thought they should tell me off, I’d them flash them back to show that actually I didn’t have them on full.

Yeah it’s this. My mini used to utterly enrage people.

I had the lights checked. They were calibrated to be how they should be legally. I obviously wasn’t going to mess around with that and have no idea what dial you are talking about.

Bringbackbuffy · 28/10/2026 20:34

Skdkhvyvrhej · 28/10/2026 20:31

Yeah it’s this. My mini used to utterly enrage people.

I had the lights checked. They were calibrated to be how they should be legally. I obviously wasn’t going to mess around with that and have no idea what dial you are talking about.

There’s a little dial that angles the lights up and down so if you have a huge weight in the boot that tips the front of the car up you can lower the headlights. Most people never touch it

Skdkhvyvrhej · 28/10/2026 20:37

As a side note. All hail to my Volvo. It has intelligent auto lighting.

It decides automatically based on ambient light whether full or dipped is appropriate.

It then senses other cars and blocks them all.

So I can be going down a busy dark motorway (with no street lamps) and have full beams on. It blocks out all the light from moving cars, both in front and oncoming like little moving black boxes.

It’s quite impossible to describe if you haven’t experienced it. But my god it’s like some kind of genius level invention.

Incredible!!

Never been flashed in that car. Not once.

Skdkhvyvrhej · 28/10/2026 20:38

Bringbackbuffy · 28/10/2026 20:34

There’s a little dial that angles the lights up and down so if you have a huge weight in the boot that tips the front of the car up you can lower the headlights. Most people never touch it

Ahh I see. I never knew that existed. But then I also didn’t drive around with heavy boxes in my boot.

As above I have a Volvo now. It’s god like in its lighting abilities.

notnorman · 28/10/2026 21:02

My car’s lights are so bright I’m always being flashed. It’s embarrassing

PUGMEISTER21 · 28/10/2026 22:46

SleepingisanArt · 27/10/2026 22:53

What wheel with numbers? My car doesnt have one. My headlights are auto adjusting so they move slightly to the left and down if they detect another vehicle. I use a stalk to put them onto full beam when needed, they are dipped as standard. They are also not the new super bright, very white headlights.... A Mini is bigger than my A1 and its lights are higher so I use the little switch to adjust the rear view mirror to prevent blinding by even dipped lights right behind me. (Previous car auto darkened the rear view mirror and I miss that feature! My wing mirrors auto darken...) Also more people drive bigger SUV type cars which have much higher headlights so even when dipped they are at eye level if you are driving a 'normal' car.

How would fining people work? There aren't enough police to deal with general crime, people using phones whilst driving, not wearing seat belts, doing 50 in a 30......

The little wheel is for adjusting the angle of your headlights if you are towing a caravan etc. The weight of the caravan pulls the back of the car down making the headlights point up. You then use the wheel to adjust these back down to a normal beam angle. If you havent got something attached to the tow bar you can just use the usual dipped/main beam on the stork.

XigDoop · Yesterday 01:48

I agree with you OP, it's very noticeable lately.

SpiritAdder · Yesterday 01:57

Yanbu about the problem of people leaving their headlights on bright setting, but I do not think a fine would make a difference. How can it be proven? Wouldn’t the police have to witness it and have some lumen measuring radar to prove the headlights were not correct (similar to their speed radars and cameras)? How clear are the rules regarding adequate reaction time to adjust headlights?

I think it is a problem better solved by automotive engineering. They should work on headlights that automatically adjust brightness using sensors. They are most of the way there with headlights that automatically turn on at sunset or in a tunnel.

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