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To think people are getting noticeably stupider

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CurdinHenry · 18/10/2026 19:15

At every level of capability it just feels like the species is in decline

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Happyjoe · 18/10/2026 22:14

Abitlosttoday · 18/10/2026 22:10

Yes, it does cause brain fog. 100%. However, that's more an issue with recalling info, rather than taking it in. Reading may help your mind stay clearer when not reading. Sharper.

Not for me it's not, sorry. Brain fog is both, slow in taking in information as well as recall. It's literally a foggy brain! :-)

Lifeomars · 18/10/2026 22:14

Abitlosttoday · 18/10/2026 22:04

There's no reason for it to be menopause! Jesus, it takes a lot, but not that! I had my first child ten years ago, and I was already a keen social media user, as well as a regular reader. I found it easier to maintain the social media because you can do it in 2 minute chunks while caring for a kid. My reading really lessened, but never stopped entirely. Now (a few years ago, really), I realise I read a LOT less than I once did, and can't blame my kids. I am making a deliberate effort to go back to my old ways and my attention span is building like a muscle. Would recommend! Put down the phone (she says with a phone between her thumbs...) Reading is also a much better activity for calmness of mind.

You sound similar to me, i was a big reader and when I was on a roll i could get through 3 books in a week. Menopause made no difference to my concentration or comprehension levels. With me, it is definitely screens, so I have made a new rule of not looking at my phone when I get into bed. Instead I read just like i used to in the olden days. It has been an effort at first but I am getting back to the habit. I have noticed that i have a better quality of sleep when I fall asleep reading opposed to conking out while scrolling on Instagram

Flamingojune · 18/10/2026 22:16

MerryAquaKoala · 18/10/2026 22:08

Surely you mean since you watched Neighbours in the early 90's! Don't tell me you never saw Joe Mangle..

So there was brain rotting stupid tv in the early 90s? Who watched that?

GripGetter · 18/10/2026 22:19

HenriettaHippopotamus · 18/10/2026 19:41

Aren’t most government ads usually about basic things? Decades ago they had ones about the benefits of seatbelts and about washing your hands etc.

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And not so long ago... "Stay home"

MerryAquaKoala · 18/10/2026 22:20

Flamingojune · 18/10/2026 22:16

So there was brain rotting stupid tv in the early 90s? Who watched that?

Neighbours? Brain rotting? I think you have the wrong show.. 😆

Tootsurly · 18/10/2026 22:21

Koriko · 18/10/2026 19:34

The internet is poisoning us intellectually honestly. Modern era lead in the water pipes. I know people who let ChatGPT write their bloody text messages.

Do you mean that the internet is poisoning in an intellectually honest way? Or do you actually mean, "I honestly think that the internet is poisoning us"?

AnotherAnnie · 18/10/2026 22:22

ExtraHotDoubleShot · 18/10/2026 19:31

The entitlement is insane! Breathtaking in some cases. I was once privy to an email where a parent who ‘couldn’t cope’ with picking her child up from school every day due to ‘chronic fatigue’, said ‘the teacher will just have to drive him home instead’

Yes, you heard me correctly. Never ever have I wanted to fire off a spur of the moment, home-truths email like I did just then.

If the parent/s are too unwell somebody will need to help the child access school, and It is true children in the UK are entitled to school- but it is wrong to think a teacher would even be allowed to do it.. ME can cause brain fog so that might not be a case of simple lack of brain power.

If it helps you did not need to respond for the childs sake.. In the UK the teacher would likely have been required to log the parent raised safeguarding concern with the lead, and transport asistance might be possible.

theearthsayshello · 18/10/2026 22:22

DeftGoldHedgehog · 18/10/2026 22:12

That sounds rather a dumb blanket statement to blame "the internet".

It's called a title, the primary purpose of which is to give a brief teaser as to the contents of the book. A title acts as a marketing and selling tool and is designed to capture your attention and set your expectations.

A title has to be quite pithy to market to its intended audience, and that's why behind the title is an entire book, ready to be read.

Just flipping to the back page blurb will often reeeal more about the contents of the book.

This book may indeed make blanket statements, but one cannot assume that from the title.

DeftGoldHedgehog · 18/10/2026 22:23

GripGetter · 18/10/2026 22:19

And not so long ago... "Stay home"

By that measure people must have been peak stupid in the 1970s then when there were dozens of public information films made about things that ought to be quite obvious. Even as a small child I wondered why there were films needed to tell people not to let their kids swim in quarries, go off with strangers or climb pylons.

RaggedRocks · 18/10/2026 22:24

Floofparty · 18/10/2026 21:59

Isn’t it because stupid people have more kids than intelligent people. I’m sure I read that somewhere.

That is official Labour Party policy.

DeftGoldHedgehog · 18/10/2026 22:26

theearthsayshello · 18/10/2026 22:22

It's called a title, the primary purpose of which is to give a brief teaser as to the contents of the book. A title acts as a marketing and selling tool and is designed to capture your attention and set your expectations.

A title has to be quite pithy to market to its intended audience, and that's why behind the title is an entire book, ready to be read.

Just flipping to the back page blurb will often reeeal more about the contents of the book.

This book may indeed make blanket statements, but one cannot assume that from the title.

It was the summary given by the other poster that made it sound dumb. Given you can use the internet for endless wonderful possibilities as well as less savoury or improving things.

theearthsayshello · 18/10/2026 22:27

Flamingojune · 18/10/2026 22:16

So there was brain rotting stupid tv in the early 90s? Who watched that?

Generally, between 8 - 10 million viewers watched each episode in the UK. Scott and Charlene's wedding drew over 21 million viewers.

Neighbours ran for 40 years, from 1985 to 2025. It was a simple, fairly formulaic show, certainly no worse than anything to come, and far better than some.

whyohwhyohwhyohwhyohwhyohwhy · 18/10/2026 22:28

BogRollBOGOF · 18/10/2026 19:27

Many people put less effort into thinking and expect instant answers given that it's often at our fingertips with Google.

The days of looking through the index cards in the library or going through the index volume of an Encylopaedia are feeling increasingly distant. It was slow and not the most up to date information, but it was reliable and some patience was involved. Knowledge had more value and was less "disposable"

People can’t even be arsed with Google anymore. They pray to ChatGPT.

CaveMum · 18/10/2026 22:28

WatermelonSalad1 · 18/10/2026 19:20

@CurdinHenry have you seen the film “Idiocracy”?

Only saw the OP and was about to post the same thing, but see I’ve been beaten to it!

“It’s got electrolytes!”

theearthsayshello · 18/10/2026 22:31

DeftGoldHedgehog · 18/10/2026 22:26

It was the summary given by the other poster that made it sound dumb. Given you can use the internet for endless wonderful possibilities as well as less savoury or improving things.

I see, I thought you were referring to the book title. However, you could simply have asked the PP to clarify what they meant by "the internet" rather than referring to her statement as "dumb".

My assumption is she means staring at screens, scrolling endlessly and now outsourcing our thinking to code has adversely affected our cognitive abilities, as she did also mention "attention spans" - which have notably declined (and this has been studied).

theearthsayshello · 18/10/2026 22:32

CaveMum · 18/10/2026 22:28

Only saw the OP and was about to post the same thing, but see I’ve been beaten to it!

“It’s got electrolytes!”

When it was made, we assumed it was a comedy. The horror that it's turning into a documentary 😭

DeftGoldHedgehog · 18/10/2026 22:33

Modernschooling · 18/10/2026 22:11

I know about blotting paper the way I know why teachers are all called Miss or about life in public schools - I read unrelated books that referenced schools in various incarnations and then I could read or ask more specifically.

Now if the internet doesn't feed you anything about blotting paper/schools/history you might never hear about them.

And it would take you minutes to find out information about a particular era that it would take hours or days when you had to rely on non-digital sources. That's not to say that reading is not valuable, but it's ridiculous to say that the internet is valueless.

theearthsayshello · 18/10/2026 22:34

whyohwhyohwhyohwhyohwhyohwhy · 18/10/2026 22:28

People can’t even be arsed with Google anymore. They pray to ChatGPT.

I don't pray to chat GPT. As I stated, I use it in place of a Google search because Google searches are now completely untrustworthy, and have been for several years, promoting heavily advertised products and hiding what you need to find on the second page, if at all.

Google is no longer fit for purpose, and so doing a product/online search is one of the few things Chat GPT is useful for that doesn't cause brain rot.

MyJollyFish · 18/10/2026 22:34

foursquares · 18/10/2026 19:26

Just reform voters IMHO..

Because nobody else can be misinformed ever.

NotAnotherScarf · 18/10/2026 22:34

No it's just more noticeable because people are posting on social media and being recorded on YouTube. The sun was launched in 1972 with the idea that it would be written for someone with a reading age of 12.

Plus teachers in the past highlighted people who were less intelligent and others mocked them. Now it's rightly seen as cruel. But kids who went through school in the naughties are now adults and unaware that they are a bit thick or lack knowledge of things, so they've not learnt to shut up.

DeftGoldHedgehog · 18/10/2026 22:36

theearthsayshello · 18/10/2026 22:31

I see, I thought you were referring to the book title. However, you could simply have asked the PP to clarify what they meant by "the internet" rather than referring to her statement as "dumb".

My assumption is she means staring at screens, scrolling endlessly and now outsourcing our thinking to code has adversely affected our cognitive abilities, as she did also mention "attention spans" - which have notably declined (and this has been studied).

And if you read a little deeper online you'll find the claims made by those studies have been debunked.

theearthsayshello · 18/10/2026 22:37

DeftGoldHedgehog · 18/10/2026 22:33

And it would take you minutes to find out information about a particular era that it would take hours or days when you had to rely on non-digital sources. That's not to say that reading is not valuable, but it's ridiculous to say that the internet is valueless.

It does have some value, yes, and is often convenient.

However, what it has stolen from us, and the ways in which it has warped society, have not been worth the bargain.

DeftGoldHedgehog · 18/10/2026 22:38

NotAnotherScarf · 18/10/2026 22:34

No it's just more noticeable because people are posting on social media and being recorded on YouTube. The sun was launched in 1972 with the idea that it would be written for someone with a reading age of 12.

Plus teachers in the past highlighted people who were less intelligent and others mocked them. Now it's rightly seen as cruel. But kids who went through school in the naughties are now adults and unaware that they are a bit thick or lack knowledge of things, so they've not learnt to shut up.

The Telegraph was 12. The Sun was a reading age of 8 years old.

DeftGoldHedgehog · 18/10/2026 22:38

theearthsayshello · 18/10/2026 22:37

It does have some value, yes, and is often convenient.

However, what it has stolen from us, and the ways in which it has warped society, have not been worth the bargain.

That's just your opinion.

Happyjoe · 18/10/2026 22:39

NotAnotherScarf · 18/10/2026 22:34

No it's just more noticeable because people are posting on social media and being recorded on YouTube. The sun was launched in 1972 with the idea that it would be written for someone with a reading age of 12.

Plus teachers in the past highlighted people who were less intelligent and others mocked them. Now it's rightly seen as cruel. But kids who went through school in the naughties are now adults and unaware that they are a bit thick or lack knowledge of things, so they've not learnt to shut up.

so they've not learnt to shut up

😂