To think if an MP said this about any other group of people he would be sacked?

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Jim Allister of the TUV - during his interview on BBC’s Sunday Politics programme, he stated that Chief Constable Jon Boutcher should have "sanitised the Garvaghy Road and escorted" the Orangemen down it.

AIBU to think this is absolutely disgusting language, and if he'd said it about Muslims or Jews for example there would be complete uproar, but when it's Catholic Nationalists the backlash is lukewarm to say the least? Im aware there has been some condemnation, and hes tried to defend his comments but he needs to go. There's no place for hate speech like this from anyone never mind an elected MP.

Exactly, the lack of knowledge about NI & the Troubles in general blows my mind on MNs.

Orange4 men are members of the Orange Order, which describes itself as a fraternity of Protestant men who are mainly active in Northern Ireland but also have lodges around the world, most notably in the West of Scotland. The town I was born in is the centre of the Orange Lodge in Scotland and was a nasty sectarian shithole, luckily, we moved away when I was a toddler. There are still massive problems with sectarianism in N Ireland and some areas of Scotlandf, there was recently a bit of a scandal when my cousin married a Catholic with the Priest telling her small children their parents' marriage was invalid!

It celebrates King William of Orange, who gave Protestants privileges in 1690, and it celebrates his battle wins. They are essentially an anti Catholic organisation who like to hold marches.

Thankfully, sectarianism is a lot less in Scotland than when I was growing up but still exists and clearly in N Ireland it is still alive and kicking.

I did meet someone from NI once.

we were both volunteering on a maths camp for gifted and talented students in Ghana.

he told me (I think I remember this right) that I was a fascist imperial pig and he hated British people. I apologised a couple of times for being British and he spent the whole camp refusing to speak to me or work with me.

personally I’m of the opinion that if the march was going to cause public disorder banning it seems reasonable

We crossed posts but I can only assume it’s because they were too young to know what pre 1998 was like? I’m English and the Troubles were the main story every week when I was growing up.

I would disagree, the MNs poster base is fairly old imo, 55 plus. There is just a lot of ignorance.

Oh! I’m also shocked then!

You've only met the one then?

Im never shocked, the lack of education in the UK about Ireland and the Troubles is shameful.

Even if someone doesnt know the history, they may see it on the news the last few weeks, but no, its not even in your news.

A massive event which had the potential to destabilise peace in NI and people are asking whats an orangeman 🤷‍♀️

Why on earth would you apologise to a bully boy arsehole for you being born?? More fool you!

Ironically you likely have some Irish DNA and he some British

Also he wouldn't describe himself as being from Northern Ireland ....only Ireland

That I’m aware of, yes.

Did he mean British, or English people, which would have made more sense?

The people in the North of Ireland were protesting on their own actual street that the parade got permission to come down. Wouldn’t really have worked for them to be told to go and protest somewhere else 🤦🏻‍♀️ (They were literally blocking the road to stop the march happening.)

Although I appreciate when I say march I’m thinking of an orange walk and maybe in England you’d think of a march as being like a protest

Am I the only one who finds the word “sanitised” disturbing? Sounds reminiscent of ethnic cleansing.

Read the bbc news the story is all over it. And google the history of the orange men.

It was all over the news here in the UK. I have no idea how the person I replied to missed it (unless they aren't in the UK)

There are orange lodges around the north-west of England too