Living next to asylum seeker HMO, ask me anything

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As the title says. I live in a Victorian mid-terrace, wall-to-wall, garden-to-garden with an asylum seeker dispersal HMO. They were moved in nearly two years ago, replacing a multi-generation family that were living there before.
There is another HMO directly opposite my house, where asylum seekers get rooms once they are approved to remain but don't have an income to support themselves.

Not AIBU but more like AMA. I'm wondering what people would ask me if they really could ask anything. Does anyone actually want to know what it is like? I hear a lot of political point scoring in the media regarding this topic but no one actually talks to people like me!

They may have been planning to house students until they found out just how lucrative the HO contracts are.

Very true, plenty of companies and private individuals making a killing out of this racket.

As I mentioned up thread, the HMO planning had nothing about asylum accommodation but a promise (not legally binding) of student use.
But it may have had some conditions and surveys attached which could have been of use re.fire safety and the loft issue.
There were separate planning permissions for an extension and external insulation cladding.

Now it's all restricted from public viewing!
I can't complain if I don't have the information.

The government have put me in a boat (no pun intended) and have removed the oars.
This is happening under Labour. The cunts.

Well, Labour hate the poor working class so I am not surprised.

When Burnham was asked about people objecting to HMOs in poor areas, instead of saying that he would do something about it, all he said was that he was going to start putting them in middle class areas as well.

Yes, Labour politicians are cunts.

As long as they don't have to live next to an HMO they don't care.

I can see the Daily Mail featuring this thread.
So Denmark have toughened their asylum eligibility criteria and claims in France are only half as successful as they are here.
And many of these men are coming from countries with ever increasing populations, worsening climates and mass unemployment.
if we are seen as a soft touch, even in relation to Germany, I’d say there’s a problem.

And Sweden are deporting people.

The back log may have been falling but you won't be only housing 130,000 people as per your original maths. You will be housing 130,000 plus all the new arrivals. There were 781 in one day this month!

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/lucy-powell-home-office-shabana-mahmood-british-keir-starmer-b1298232.html

No, they are part of the count. Or those who passed their initial screening interviews are. It is periodic (a 12 month count or annual figure, updated quarterly)

As soon as you pass your screening interview, you become part of the count. Meanwhile time is passing and others are no longer part of the active backlog.

The total number who have been granted asylum continues to rise, but the rate at which asylum seekers are coming and the rate at which those who come are being approved are both decreasing. HTH.

Of course there will be blips in the data. For all we know the trend may reverse. But statistics don’t show that yet.

@poetryandwine Seeing that the Home Office are facilitating a cover up of simple planning details... I'm not so sure that the word "statistics" carries it's intended meaning anymore.

I feel deeply for you, OP, but I think the situations are different.

I stumbled across this site the other day while googling 'migrant hotels near me' to try and find the name of a hotel me and a friend were talking about. It's clearly designed with an agenda in mind but it's interesting to see all the HMOs around you and the approximate spend.

migrantsnearme.com/

Explain more. The data would be good to see.

Though the large HMO near me, licensed for young professionals (not the staff house for the luxury hotel, mentioned upthread) is full of young (and not so young) professionals. Great use of a near derelict pub which has been refurbished.

The other two nearby house young people requiring support straight from the care system and I suspect some from young offenders institutions. Mainly quiet, a couple of incidents of young men climbing on the roof and throwing things at the police and a hostage situation with armed police in attendance.

This is their new fresh start.

This constant trickle of dirty dealings and secrecy leaves me with no space to trust them in any situations.

In 1938 the Home Office were advising that people put cocaine and mercuric chloride (corrosive and extremely toxic substance) into their eyes. Doesn't sound like the organisation has changed much since - they clearly have a problem with people who can see things 😅

A sort of update.Stuff of nightmares.
I saw this evening a couple (man&woman) of completely down at heel druggies walk into the asylum house. These kinds don't hang around anywhere unless there's something there for them.
I am absolutely and not at all safe now - this combination of people is literally the worst that could have happened! 😩
I have my local councillor coming for a visit tomorrow. Let's see if I'll get any understanding and support.

That's awful.

So you think that the druggies are getting drugs from the asylum house?

I am so so sorry. You have to get out of there now surely, but how? So a developer would offer you less than the market value, is that right? The council needs to be asked what they would offer and hopefully the councillors visit might help. I want to thank you for all the information though, I really didn't appreciate how much of this went on and how it destroys communities if there are no limits on the amount of HMOs allowed in one street. Good luck OP.

Don't know what to think. I've never seen these two groups of people hang out together. Can't actually believe anyone would risk inviting them in - drug addicts bring a lot of trouble.
I can only hope it's a one-off 😵‍💫

@gezzab33 Thank you 💐
We actually had a BBC reporter in the street not so long ago. They filmed the street and said "rumours" exist that people from the closed down asylum hotels are resettled into HMOs here. I only found out when the footage was broadcast.They spoke to no asylum seekers and didn't speak to me either. Box ticking- yes. Finding out facts - no. At least I can describe the reality here!

Yes I'm under whelmed by this landlord strategy but I know several people doing it. Maximising space. Getting outrageous amounts of government funding for emergency accommodation for new arrivals. They don't do returbs due to making it un- homely as people don't stay long. They take up to £12000 yes thousand pounds per month for having 9 skanky rooms in an HMO. Charging a nightly rate! And the councils pay it. Who is to blame here. Business is supply and demand and there is demand and the supply exploits that demand. I am a landlord but hate the model.

So where to do people go once they leave the HMO?

Doesn't it usually depend on the result of their claim? Either they get sent back or they join the social housing list and very possibly end up in a tent like most men do as they aren't usually deemed priority.

Very few asylum seekers get deported, even when their claims have been disallowed. If their claim is unsuccessful they will either end up living in a tent or will rent in the private sector.

If their claim is successful and they head to Scotland they will be housed by the local authority as single men. If they stay in England they can apply to bring their family over through family reunion and then they will be housed by the local authority as a family.

Whichever way you cut it, it's a drain on the public purse. If they end up living in tents, it's an eyesore and a blight on the public spaces they inhabit. I know several little parks and gardens in the city where I live where office workers used to go to eat their sandwiches. They've been taken over by people living in tents. They are a complete mess and unhygienic and nobody goes there now.

Interesting, please provide more information and evidence of all that you know about the system.
Much of it does not match my professional experience.

For info - https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c8xqk98d1d1o