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AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

or is DH? Honestly, can't see the wood for the trees here. Sorry long.

29 replies

JoshandJamie · 29/06/2008 19:41

So yesterday I held my long awaited and much desired tea party (separate thread on this). It's has been a long time coming so was very keen for it to all go well and to be like I'd imagined it to be.

I spent the morning baking/getting things ready while looking after two boys because DH was at the gym. It was hard as the boys wanted to 'help' and this was one occassion I didn't really want 'little boy made cakes'. But as DH was taking the boys out in the afternoon it was fair enough.

DH comes back and is in a mood. He's grumpy with me and the boys. He does nothing to help me at all - as though he's very clearly trying to make the point that this is my party and therefore I can do it. Fine again. A little unlike him, but fine.

That evening he is cool, offish just not 100% happy. I know something is up but figure it's because he's had to have the kids in the afternoon while I got to sit around with girly friends and have tea.

Today the stand-offishness continues. I try to be nice, make conversation but just get the cold shoulder. I eventually say: right, so what is the problem because there obviously is one and I know I must have done something to upset you?

So he tells me that he is upset that I went to so much effort for a tea party yet I hardly made any effort for our wedding anniversary and that that makes him sad.

I admit, I didn't do anything spectacular for our anniversary. I booked us a table for dinner, he booked the sitter, and we went out. On the actual day we had a fab time lazing at home in the sun and having a BBQ at friends. He said repeatedly what a great day it was.

The only bit I fell down in was the gift department. i really battled to find him something (he is the world's most difficult person to buy for). I did spend hours looking but without success. What I got him was so hideous (and I knew it was the minute it arrived but was too late to send back) that we both laughed and laughed about it. I said I would think again and get him something else. I haven't yet (it was 3 weeks ago). He got me a very thoughtful gift - but then I'm VERY easy to buy for.

DH works fulltime, pays the mortgage and does the garden. That's where his to do list ends. I run my own business, pay half the bills, look after children, run the house, organise all social activities, cook all meals, buy all the presents (including for his family/friends) etc etc etc. My friends (and DH) all take the mickey out of me for being a perfectionist - but I just try to make things nice for other people.

So now he tells me that he feels I didn't put enough effort into our anniversary and I just feel mad as hell. I told him that me having a girly party was an incredibly rare thing (first time ever in fact) and the fact that I put effort into it was because i wanted it to be lovely. But he seems genuinely upset that I somehow put more effort into this than him for our anniversary. Sigh. Who is being the sensitive idiot here? Both of us? Because right now we've swapped sides on the cold shoulder thing and he's the one of the receiving end.

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StellaWasADiver · 29/06/2008 19:43

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moopdaloop · 29/06/2008 19:44

he sounds like he's 13 - and a girl tbh

Twelvelegs · 29/06/2008 19:45

How much effort did he put into your anniversary??

scottishmum007 · 29/06/2008 19:46

just get a bottle of wine, and get a bit merry once the kids are in bed tonight and have a bit rumpy pumpy and forget all about that. there's no point crying over spilt milk.

dmo · 29/06/2008 19:46

tell him that he could have put more effort in than just arranging the babysitter instaed of putting so much effort into his own body at the gym
tell him you needed me time as does he

maidamess · 29/06/2008 19:46

I think he's entitled to his feelings, but he shouldn't make you feel bad for doing the one thing you really wanted to do. I think theres some room for apologies and compromise here.

You could say yes you didn't make enough effort on the anniversary (he obviously equates effort with love) adn he could say sorry I sulked about your tea party.

Are you both stubborn?

paperdoll · 29/06/2008 19:47

YANBU. It does sound as if you need to both get the huffs out of your system and have a proper talk about this though. Can't help wondering if there is more to it, as it seems weird that he would mind so much about this thing alone.

Maybe he feels, I don't know, like you and he don't focus on one another enough? I am totally speculating as I do not know you but I know that lots of people get into that situation and although it's stereotypically women who tend to complain about it, I am sure men are affected too.

Hope you manage to sort it out. I'm sure you will; you sound like you have a relationship where good communication is possible (unlike some).

AuntieMaggie · 29/06/2008 19:50

I can see it from both sides but know how frustrating it must be esp if you had no inkling that he'd been feeling like this.

If you normally put more effort into the anniversary than you did 3 weeks ago I can see why he is feeling a bit put out, but if not then maybe he just doesn't understand how important this thing was for you.

I would try to talk to him about it and hopefuly resolve the issue and then maybe next week surprise him with something.

Nagapie · 29/06/2008 19:50

I can't be handling passive aggressive men!!

I wouldn't give him the cold shoulder but just give him your side of the story as assertively as you can (without prejudice or commentary.. IFYWIM) and leave it at that.

StellaWasADiver · 29/06/2008 19:53

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JoshandJamie · 29/06/2008 19:54

I think there's more to it too. Honestly, I think he feels as though I don't show him enough affection and I probably don't. Partly because I'm busy, partly because I'm less affectionate than him, partly (and this is the clincher) that we don't have enough sex and the one thing leads to another.

So he probably sees the tea party as me investing my energy and passion into something else instead of doing the same for him. But that's my interpretation of it all. I was genuinely gobsmacked that he felt I didn't put enough effort into the anniversary as he was so happy on that day. And he didn't do much more either (other than a better gift).

I should just be the big person and go say 'sorry for not making you feel special but you need to understand I need me time too.' Sigh. Just don't feel like it.

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scottishmum007 · 29/06/2008 19:54

he's a typical man, doesn't get the attention he wants and throws his toys out the pram.simple as that.

scottishmum007 · 29/06/2008 19:56

just forget about tea parties and anniversaries and just enjoy yourselves as a couple alone. you can make up for the shortfall (if there actually was one to begin with!) next anniversary. life's too short when you love one another to be getting upset over silly things. kiss and make up!

bellavita · 29/06/2008 19:56

Do you know something - DH would rather me be happy and have a good time than him.

DH pays all the bills and does the garden and helps with the housework etc etc.

Me - I work a few hours a week, keep my own money and get to spend his.

He needs to grow up.

JoshandJamie · 29/06/2008 19:58

Thing is he's not a typical man. He's normally very supportive of me. This seems to have just hit a nerve for whatever reason. I think I need to just go talk to him. But I hate these kind of talks. Starts with something small and before you know it you've pulled all kinds of crap out of the woodwork that you didn't even know was there and quite frankly, although communication is good, there are some things that should just be dropped.

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foxythesnowfox · 29/06/2008 19:59

Joshandjamie - your last post was absolutely what I was thinking, and I suspect its very, very common. I can certainly relate to it.

Sometimes men are a bit like toddlers - he's behaving badly for attention.

Be the bigger person.

You know how to fix it

JoshandJamie · 29/06/2008 20:01

Right - am off to talk to him. Although I seriously doubt it'll end the way you suggest foxy . That would require me to be a really big person. One step at a time...

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foxythesnowfox · 29/06/2008 20:02

I mean, your post before that one

It seems a bit easy to say sex is the answer, but I think it counts for an awful lot more that the act itself. The intimacy, desire, wanting him. I think many men have egos which need to be stroked.

That's not to say you should do it if you don't want to just to soothe the troubled waters, but if you've simply gotten out of the habit, then its time to get back in the saddle - so to speak.

bellavita · 29/06/2008 20:03

Fingers crossed for you JoshandJamie

Keep us updated.

foxythesnowfox · 29/06/2008 20:03

x-post again

Good luck, hope you can have a good chat over a glass of wine and sort things out

longingforaffection · 29/06/2008 21:20

Hell no, YANBU. If he was unhappy three weeks ago about your anniversary he should have said something then, not store it up to 'explode' on you later. This is so typical of my H, and yes it will be noted that he is h and not dh!!

shatteredmumsrus · 29/06/2008 21:25

Men are very childlike sometimes. They get jealous like children do. Some would say its nice he is so upset about it as it shows his anni really means something to him. Others would say he is a big girls blouse!Im half and half personally

JoshandJamie · 29/06/2008 21:38

Well we had THE CHAT. All seems to be a bit of a storm in a teacup. He was at pains to say that he didn't in any way begrudge me the tea party and encourages me to do more of that type of thing.

Long and short of it was as expected, he needs more love/affection/sex - he didn't say that, i got that out of him eventually. This is my problem really - I do need to be better at it.

But right now I am too tired and have eaten too much cake to stay up a minute longer or even contemplate anything in that department but thanks for all the advice ladies.

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lizziemun · 29/06/2008 22:13

If he wants you to be less tired then he needs to help more with the household and the children so you have more time/energy to invest in him.

TracyK · 29/06/2008 22:21

My dh is exactly the same. If we haven't had sex for a while or he thinks I'm not affectionate enough (which I'm not - for all the same reasons as you) - a tiny thing can escalate into almighty rows. ie tonight - I was working in the offive, he calls me to have a look at a Gordon Ramsay receipe he's watching and then he yaps over it. I say - I missed all that cos you were rabbiting over it and he takes an almighty strop!