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If you are fully supporting DC through uni - how much is is it really costing?

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QuandryQuaint · Yesterday 11:19

As title really. DH has got a big promotion and we are looking at whether it will be possible to fully support our DC going to uni without any loans. If you are fully funding your DC would you please share what this is actually costing you per year? Assuming not in London.
Fees : £10k ish per year
Accommodation?
Basic living costs? - food, study texts/equipment, basic clothing.

Just trying to get an ideal if this is even feasible for us.
Thanks

OP posts:
Thatsanotherfinemess1 · Yesterday 22:49

Bath- £20k, roughly £9,500 fees, £8,000 room, £100 pw food and everything else (as she's home for roughly half the year given how long holidays are). If she needs anything extra her holiday job pays for it

Skatefordinner · Yesterday 22:58

A friend of mine’s daughter took a gap year and worked for most of it full time, saved up and still managed a couple of months travelling with friends in April / may. She then worked over the summer. This was mainly because her parents were not in a position to pay for her. She has had a great year, made lots of friends at her job and has really matured and grown up. I think that’s a great way of doing it.

WindsorGreatPark · Yesterday 23:01

redskyAtNigh · Yesterday 21:56

Is that actually true (that those who can afford to fund are disproportionately from the private school sector)? We could afford to fund uni (but chose not to in the end) mainly because we had gone with the state sector and therefore had savings put aside that we wouldn't have if we'd paid school fees. MN seems to be full of posters that are "not wealthy" and just about managing fees, so I would imagine that although those posters might use their "it's the same as school" money to fund university there would be nothing saved to help their DC with house deposits, which I personally think (and why we didn't spend our savings on uni in the end) is a better use of money than paying for uni. If you are wealthy enough for both, then clearly a different question.

Interestingly another consideration for us was that we have 2 children and one did not go to university so fully funding university (as opposed to just paying rent which is what we are doing) felt like a lot of money to give one child and not ther other. So that might be another thing for OP to think about if she has other children.

I also wish student loans were not so called. It would be better just to think of them as a 9% (over threshold) 40 year graduate tax and not fixate on the amount borrowed and how big it is as only very high earners are likely to be paying it off.

Logically, yes, those who can afford £25k plus a year are going to be skewed towards the wealthier section of the population and therefore those who are more likely to have chosen private education. Even if numerically more come from the state sector, it will be a smaller proportion of the total state educated.

We saved from birth for house deposits, a small amount each month. With compounding and careful investment both kids will have £100k plus. The house deposit level savings were a given from the day we had kids.

We only decided to privately educate when the oldest was 6 and we have always paid out of income so uni was a bargain in contrast. The choice to fully fund that was about a month before the oldest started.

The school years were not comfortable financially but it was the right decision at the time with the situation we found ourselves in. I accept it still makes us well off that it was even a decision we could afford to make, instead of the failing school we were offered when we had to in year relocate due to a new job. We are far from oligarchs though!

Mnetcurious · Yesterday 23:04

clary · Yesterday 13:26

This isn’t that helpful to @QuandryQuaint tho. High earnings mean minimum loan which won’t cover accommodation at most unis.

Agree they could take out a fees loan; if not then that’s £9-10k a year.

Ds2 got min loan in the end and worked PT a day a week; I paid his rent (about £7k, fairly cheap tbh) and his loan plus job came to about £6k on top, so about £12-13k a year. Good luck finding a it job that pays £8k.

But as others say it so depends on the uni. Friend’s DD (or rather, friend) pays £10k Pa for house share in Bristol. Bath, Edinburgh, Exeter also ££.

It not even “high earnings”. Household income of ~£70k means minimum loan. So you could have parents on £35k each and you’d only get the minimum.

Our child’s uni halls cost £8k (northern England), minimum loan is £5k so it’s expected that parents make up the difference and that’s before any actual living costs like food, toiletries, transport, socialising etc.

bearbeatcheesesticks · Yesterday 23:05

What's the AIBU here?

clary · Yesterday 23:05

Mnetcurious · Yesterday 23:04

It not even “high earnings”. Household income of ~£70k means minimum loan. So you could have parents on £35k each and you’d only get the minimum.

Our child’s uni halls cost £8k (northern England), minimum loan is £5k so it’s expected that parents make up the difference and that’s before any actual living costs like food, toiletries, transport, socialising etc.

Edited

Yes I know you don't have to earn highly only to get min loan (oh believe me I know – I am an underpaid creative and DH is a very underpaid civil servant and still DS2 got the min). But I was referencing the OP's DH getting a "big promotion" which presumably meant high earnings, that's all.

FairViewRosie25 · Yesterday 23:18

Daughter third year at Lincoln now in a house. We pay accommodation fees but her Grandad left her money which cover’s tuition. Hopefully won’t leave in debt

OneZanyCat · Yesterday 23:48

Oxford - Fees c£9500 pa
Accommodation c£5000 pa
Living c £100 per week

QuandryQuaint · Today 06:43

I have to say the comments about house deposit being a better return on money/better start in life for DC has got me thinking. We could possibly do both but obviously if just did deposit it would be much much higher thus reducing mortgage payments further thus making the ‘graduate tax’ less problematic. Food for thought.

OP posts:
AllJoyAndNoFun · Today 07:15

MJagain · Yesterday 13:08

Because the changes to student finance mean this is not longer the no brainer it once was. And because if you can afford to give your older child a great start in life, why would you choose to put them on the back foot.

By the above I mean the scandal of student loans by the way, absolutely they should have part time jobs from 16yo as well.

Plus there aren't enough part time jobs anymore - you can't rely on your YP being able to get one/ enough hours, especially in a University city where everyone is trying to get PT jobs, especially if timetabling means they can only really work weekends. The loan system already assumes a fairly substantial parental contribution other than for the absolute poorest households.

redskyAtNigh · Today 09:15

QuandryQuaint · Today 06:43

I have to say the comments about house deposit being a better return on money/better start in life for DC has got me thinking. We could possibly do both but obviously if just did deposit it would be much much higher thus reducing mortgage payments further thus making the ‘graduate tax’ less problematic. Food for thought.

Edited

I don't think there is a right or wrong way. Interestingly I have a colleague with a same age student daughter and he chose to fully fund uni but that would mean they would have little or no house deposit whereas we have opted to just pay rent while our DC takes out loans but will have a decent house deposit.

Psychologically I personally think knowing that you have a smaller mortgage (or indeed are able to buy a house at all) will feel better than the downside of having an extra amount coming out of your pay packet each month as most people are only interested in the net pay hitting their bank account rather than the exact split of deductions and will cease to "notice" it.

If it's not distasteful to say so, I think people factor in inheritances from their parents/children's grandparents as well and obviously that can be a huge boost to house deposits (several friends have been able to outright buy a house for their 20s children due to healthy inheritances). I know this isn't the case for me, and my children can't expect any money other than what they can earn or what we can give them. I therefore feel the best we can do is give them as much deposit as we can save and if they want more in their pay packet, it's up to them to earn it.

Swissmeringue · Today 10:01

QuandryQuaint · Today 06:43

I have to say the comments about house deposit being a better return on money/better start in life for DC has got me thinking. We could possibly do both but obviously if just did deposit it would be much much higher thus reducing mortgage payments further thus making the ‘graduate tax’ less problematic. Food for thought.

Edited

It's definitely an important consideration. I think if we could only do one it would be house deposit, but as we have 4 year age gaps between our 3 kids none of them should be in uni at the same time. So we're planning to use savings that we've been contributing to since they were born for house deposit then fund uni out of salary as we go. If complications crop up I'd rather they end up with a small amount of student debt and protect the deposits.

Lynxie · Today 10:36

We have passive income, which will pay for uni. We're already paying school fees (£25k pa) so see this as a three year extension to that. They may get a job but we're not planning on it being available as an option.

Any inheritance I get will go towards a house deposit for them. Plus we're investing to top up their deposit so they could potentially buy a house outright rather than have a mortgage when they start out. That's the plan anyway! If they want to upsize their house in the future they can borrow or save to do so.

They will also have dividend income from their ISAs as a passive income stream when they hit 18, so that can top up their monthly income at Uni and onwards. We will max out their allowance annually to boost that up as much as possible. They are already learning how to manage this so they can grow it themselves going forward.

DogAnxiety · Today 11:41

Gosh. SO much spoon feeding. I’m astounded that some kids are getting £800 pcm for food and fun etc.

Obviously I expect to pay something for living costs but my kids will have to get a job, any job, and not just for pin money. Granted they aren’t doing nursing or medicine where I think this is challenging.

it’s also a terrible mistake to not work when at uni. Graduating without any work history is a very bad idea these days.

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