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Wasting water in a heatwave. Private schools keeping grounds green with sprinklers..

122 replies

ifonlytheydlisten · Yesterday 21:49

I’ve seen this twice now this week whilst everywhere else has bans or people just accepting grass will be hay and water in short supply. Opposite end of spectrum to wild wire concerns and grassland burning near us. Do they have wierd exception? Is it just me that it really winds me up as entitled? It’s made me really annoyed.

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IdaGlossop · Yesterday 22:15

ifonlytheydlisten · Yesterday 22:02

@WatchingTheStarsFromMyHammockthat’s how I felt. Found it really really odd and made me really annoyed. But I accept that maybe they have a bore hole or similar. Just seems so wasteful and unneeded.
I accept that car washes need to
make a living.
bbq manufacturers will be missing out on huge sales now!

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Only manufacturers of disposal barbecues.

ifonlytheydlisten · Yesterday 22:15

Wipeywipey · Yesterday 22:11

Does no one see the main issue is we have to have hosepipe bans on an island? Our water services are so poorly maintained they have decided to pit the people paying bills against each other rather than use the profits to keep the system working properly.

Totally agree. The whole raw sewage being chucked into sea and rivers constantly also makes me & un repaired leaks but that’s a whole other topic!

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AndyKitten · Yesterday 22:17

5128gap · Yesterday 22:15

How does using a sprinkler system on the front lawn make them a living? Are fees refundable for periods when the frontage is unsightly?

They have caretakers and gardeners who do that fur a living. Are they less worthy than the car wash workers?

ifonlytheydlisten · Yesterday 22:20

I’m sure there other jobs there could do lol. Today’s was a massive un manned sprinkler on a lush green lawn with no trees in sight, not a sports pitch etc. Rest of the houses, pubs etc around the school were all yellow like everywhere else. It was very odd sight.

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Wipeywipey · Yesterday 22:22

AndyKitten · Yesterday 22:14

We have a hosepipe ban because of the shitty water companies, the drought, the concreting over or every single square inch of green space and the booming population.

It’s more complex than just the useless water companies.

No, if the water companies had been investing the systems would be expanding with the population and properties being built. We have known for decades climate change was coming, yet they still took their profits rather than prepare.

Howlerhog · Yesterday 22:23

ifonlytheydlisten · Yesterday 22:04

This wasn’t sports grounds either time. It was the lawns / areas in front of the schools. The pretty bits

Businesses are exempt though. The public wanted private schools to be treated as businesses and yet here you are whining on when that happens.

5128gap · Yesterday 22:23

AndyKitten · Yesterday 22:17

They have caretakers and gardeners who do that fur a living. Are they less worthy than the car wash workers?

They have caretakers AND gardeners making their living just maintaining the lawn sprinkler system? So about half hours work a week between them? No wonder the fees are so high.

DelphiSwimsLate · Yesterday 22:23

superchick · Yesterday 21:57

I've very recently had new turf laid and if I let it die it will need replacing again because its not fully established yet so I am sprinkling my lawn from time to time. I'm sure my neighbours think I'm an arsehole but replacing my entire lawn a second time would be worse for the environment in the longer term so I just crack on.

i believe there are exceptions for newly laid turf (if laid within the last 4 weeks, you can use a hose). Also exceptions to clean harmful substances off surfaces. Check with your water provider.

lanthanum · Yesterday 22:24

superchick · Yesterday 21:57

I've very recently had new turf laid and if I let it die it will need replacing again because its not fully established yet so I am sprinkling my lawn from time to time. I'm sure my neighbours think I'm an arsehole but replacing my entire lawn a second time would be worse for the environment in the longer term so I just crack on.

I believe that there is an exemption for lawns laid in the last 28 days.

AndyKitten · Yesterday 22:25

5128gap · Yesterday 22:23

They have caretakers AND gardeners making their living just maintaining the lawn sprinkler system? So about half hours work a week between them? No wonder the fees are so high.

Don’t forget the VAT.

EmeraldShamrock000 · Yesterday 22:25

Report them. Green grass is the new shameful meter. Yanbu.

TeenLifeMum · Yesterday 22:28

We don’t have a hose pipe ban but 10 minutes down the road does. I’ll keep watering the lawn until I’m told not to.

RaininSummer · Yesterday 22:33

superchick · Yesterday 21:57

I've very recently had new turf laid and if I let it die it will need replacing again because its not fully established yet so I am sprinkling my lawn from time to time. I'm sure my neighbours think I'm an arsehole but replacing my entire lawn a second time would be worse for the environment in the longer term so I just crack on.

My water board actually lists newly laid turf and new plants as an exception for a short time.

underthehawthorntree · Yesterday 22:36

Annoying but to be totally honest I know an awful lot of people who are watering their gardens daily and/or watering their lawns. They seem not to care or understand that it's all coming from the same resource. My garden is completely dead and my grass is brown and crispy (admittedly because I am lazy and tight) but this selfishness isn't limited to private schools

FairyBatman · Yesterday 22:39

It really depends on where you are. Northwest water has above average reserves.

AndyKitten · Yesterday 22:43

Wipeywipey · Yesterday 22:22

No, if the water companies had been investing the systems would be expanding with the population and properties being built. We have known for decades climate change was coming, yet they still took their profits rather than prepare.

Yes, that is true.

It’s bigger than that though, water companies are not in charge of planning and they are all separate entities.

We need a national strategy to deal with the water crisis.

5128gap · Yesterday 22:43

AndyKitten · Yesterday 22:25

Don’t forget the VAT.

VAT is irrelevant where the school is concerned. Their business is educating children, which will not be remotely impacted by saving water by allowing the lawn to go brown. Their income stream will remain the same, their grounds staff will be paid regardless and the public purse will continue to benefit from the associated taxes.
Unlike the car wash, the nature of who's business relies on water. No water, no income stream. No wages. No taxes.

MrsMoastyToasty · Yesterday 22:44

Bristol Water and Wessex Water don't currently have a hosepipe ban , although they are asking people to be responsible.

AndyKitten · Yesterday 22:45

5128gap · Yesterday 22:43

VAT is irrelevant where the school is concerned. Their business is educating children, which will not be remotely impacted by saving water by allowing the lawn to go brown. Their income stream will remain the same, their grounds staff will be paid regardless and the public purse will continue to benefit from the associated taxes.
Unlike the car wash, the nature of who's business relies on water. No water, no income stream. No wages. No taxes.

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Car wash and tax, What tax?

Minimal wage, cash in hand payments, UC.

At least the private schools pay tax.

Dollymylove · Yesterday 22:46

Would you be posting the same.if it was a state school?

Purplebunnie · Yesterday 22:46

bitontheobtuse · Yesterday 22:05

Trees planted in the current planting season (ie within the last year) can be watered, so that is probably what they were doing.

I did not know this. We have new trees planted a couple of months ago and have been watering them every other day, may up this to every day. Some of the water comes from a bucket we are keeping in our shower and we have receptacles for run off water wherever we can.

Wipeywipey · Yesterday 22:47

If you are a gardener and have an annual budget to stick to, you would certainly be fired if every plant you were paid to look after died, regardless of where you work!

EmeraldShamrock000 · Yesterday 22:48

Wipeywipey · Yesterday 22:22

No, if the water companies had been investing the systems would be expanding with the population and properties being built. We have known for decades climate change was coming, yet they still took their profits rather than prepare.

No surprise there, similar situation with prison space, school places, building new homes. No forward planning.

ifonlytheydlisten · Yesterday 22:52

Dollymylove · Yesterday 22:46

Would you be posting the same.if it was a state school?

Yes 100% I would. The local golf courses only seem to be watering the key bits like greens. No other businesses seem to be doing it. Pubs on same road all had yellow beer gardens. All local parks are suffering.
That’s why it stood out as odd & seemingly no need for it. As I said, maybe they have a bore hole.

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2026letsgo · Yesterday 22:53

Wipeywipey · Yesterday 22:47

If you are a gardener and have an annual budget to stick to, you would certainly be fired if every plant you were paid to look after died, regardless of where you work!

So water the plants not the grass?

I quite like the hay effect. Smells like summer and saves mowing. It will all come back after a bit of rain ( all winter and spring).