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The Jason Arday scandal, part deux

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KatiePricesKnickers · 10/08/2026 07:09

As the book launch is coming, let the discussion continue.

First thread: https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/5563599-the-jason-arday-scandal?utm_campaign=thread&utm_medium=share
This is lifted from the thread in the education section, which is an interesting summary
https://www.ian-leslie.com/p/the-great-and-unfortunate-story-of?r=8w0woc&triedRedirect=true

Or AIBU with not letting this fade away?

The Great and Unfortunate Story of Jason Arday

A One-Stop Shop For the Craziest Scandal of 2026

https://www.ian-leslie.com/p/the-great-and-unfortunate-story-of?r=8w0woc&triedRedirect=true

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SevenYellowHammers · 10/08/2026 22:56

noblegiraffe · 10/08/2026 22:31

But presumably you don't believe they are lying and come up with wild theories as to why their blatant lies are actually true?

No, they pay good money to outside speakers for inset days who peddle their hokum: brain gym, visual, audio, kinaesthetic, learning in silence one week, oratory the next, one bloke made us get up and dance,

what else? Resilience man bought a load of fake paper money that we had to give the kids if they got a question right, so that was scattered everywhere, anyway sadly the resilience man died a few days later,

Structure strips, tapping into the reptilian brain, cold calling, lollipop sticks, another bloke made us repeat over and over “the devil is in the …..” and we had to shout “detail”

There’s a whole industry of utter tripe out there.

Lougle · 10/08/2026 23:27

SevenYellowHammers · 10/08/2026 13:57

Didn’t get that far. Kept falling asleep. I couldn’t stay awake in one of his lectures tbh.

As I said yesterday, I investigated 7 Up - or 14 Up 2000 and he is the right age. The Mail and Telegraph trumpeting that the documentary was made DECADES before he was born is erroneous. Or wilful misinformation.

I’m not an investigative journalist but if I had time I bet I could debunk every silly exaggeration.

It’s all speculation. Like Meghan’s wedding bouquet endangering Princess Charlotte. All gibberish. Witch hunt.

As for the nonverbal thing, I used to teach diagnosed nonverbal twins; only they weren’t: selectively mute but I often heard them chatting to each other and to friends.

The human brain can convince itself of anything if it’s motivated enough and there’s nothing more motivated than a gutter journalist sent to dig dirt.

Silly season news.

Remember when Ed Milliband’s dad was “The Man Who Hated Britain”? ( Daily Mail, October, 2013) or when they drove teacher Lucy Meadows to suicide? Daily Mail, Richard Littlejohn, March 2013. Evil Bastard.

This is how it works : find a little fault or inconsistency, cite a school friend, a neighbour, ex employee, anyone really, who “prefers not to be named” and low and behold you’ve built a case.

Give it a double page spread, splash it on the front page, get the bots to say the same witty little jibes over the socials and it must be the truth.

Tell a lie often enough and it will become the truth. I used to think that was Banksy but apparently it was Joseph Goebbels.

It’s shameless what the right wing press do and IPSO stands by and does nothing.

I don’t even care much about Jason Arday, he seems like another dull education pundit who writes long winded theses that have little to do with the reality of teaching. But I do care about the spread of lies, half truths and disinformation because it’s holding everyone except the ruling classes down.

I think you've misunderstood. 7 up 2000 took a group of children who were 7 in the year 2000. 14 up 2000 followed the group of children as they turned 14 in 2007.

  1. Jason Arday was born in 1985, so he was 15 in the year 2000 (8 years too old).
  2. There was no child called Jason in the participant list, so he wasn't in it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Up_New_Generation

Jason Arday https://share.google/OKPWO7NmHryvubPtA

The Jason Arday scandal, part deux
noblegiraffe · 10/08/2026 23:31

SevenYellowHammers · 10/08/2026 22:56

No, they pay good money to outside speakers for inset days who peddle their hokum: brain gym, visual, audio, kinaesthetic, learning in silence one week, oratory the next, one bloke made us get up and dance,

what else? Resilience man bought a load of fake paper money that we had to give the kids if they got a question right, so that was scattered everywhere, anyway sadly the resilience man died a few days later,

Structure strips, tapping into the reptilian brain, cold calling, lollipop sticks, another bloke made us repeat over and over “the devil is in the …..” and we had to shout “detail”

There’s a whole industry of utter tripe out there.

Ok, so you can apply critical thinking to at least some things.

In my NQT training we had to stand in a circle and give the complete stranger in front of us a back massage while the person behind us gave us a massage. Perhaps that idea came from the Cambridge Faculty of Education.

Lougle · 10/08/2026 23:34

SevenYellowHammers · 10/08/2026 14:58

Across the world…

But he's from Clapham!! It doesn't matter what was happening elsewhere in the world, does it? Unless you think that there was a worldwide 7 up project that plucked Jason Arday out from the heart of Clapham at random, like Charlie Bucket, clutching his golden ticket?

Lougle · 10/08/2026 23:36

noblegiraffe · 10/08/2026 23:31

Ok, so you can apply critical thinking to at least some things.

In my NQT training we had to stand in a circle and give the complete stranger in front of us a back massage while the person behind us gave us a massage. Perhaps that idea came from the Cambridge Faculty of Education.

No thank you! I used to dance around the library with one of my fellow students because her personal space zone was about 1½ feet smaller than mine. Every time I stepped back, she stepped forwards!

sammyvine · 10/08/2026 23:44

If Arday was White, no way this scandal gets as much traction as it's getting. I mean front page news for many days! Really?
He is resigned and is now known as a fraud. What else do people want to happen?
I honestly think White right wingers want this man to be lynched.

Lougle · 10/08/2026 23:49

sammyvine · 10/08/2026 23:44

If Arday was White, no way this scandal gets as much traction as it's getting. I mean front page news for many days! Really?
He is resigned and is now known as a fraud. What else do people want to happen?
I honestly think White right wingers want this man to be lynched.

I think this is untrue. I think that if he admitted to what he's done, then it would be finished. It's the fact that he's insisting that people are just misunderstanding, that they're being racist, and that he's only resigning because of the unjust scrutiny that is causing people to dig deeper and prove the lies.

Abitlosttoday · 10/08/2026 23:53

x2boys · 10/08/2026 08:30

It fascinates me though that people fell for his lies
My now sadly deceaased Sil was a compulsive liar she told some whoppers
One time she told me she had made Jon bon Jovi a cup of coffee when he turned up at a holiday home she was staying in
She also told her best friend she had swum the English channel
But everybody knew she was a fantasist.

She sounds brilliant!

sammyvine · 11/08/2026 00:01

Lougle · 10/08/2026 23:49

I think this is untrue. I think that if he admitted to what he's done, then it would be finished. It's the fact that he's insisting that people are just misunderstanding, that they're being racist, and that he's only resigning because of the unjust scrutiny that is causing people to dig deeper and prove the lies.

Oh purlease! The UK loves hiding behind their racism and pretending not to see it. Same thing happens in football. Whenever England flop, they use a Black or Mixed raced player as the public scapegoat.
This story has been made to be way bigger than what it would be if Arday was White, because White right wing people in the media are pushing for Arday to be executed. I mean the person who outed Arday in this whole scandal is a full on racist anyways.

BuffetTheDietSlayer · 11/08/2026 00:12

sammyvine · 11/08/2026 00:01

Oh purlease! The UK loves hiding behind their racism and pretending not to see it. Same thing happens in football. Whenever England flop, they use a Black or Mixed raced player as the public scapegoat.
This story has been made to be way bigger than what it would be if Arday was White, because White right wing people in the media are pushing for Arday to be executed. I mean the person who outed Arday in this whole scandal is a full on racist anyways.

Oh, the hyperbole!

bluewanda · 11/08/2026 00:22

Lipglossed · 10/08/2026 08:31

Could someone give a summary please of how he actually became a professor? Had he been teaching elsewhere before he got the job at Cambridge?

Professorship is usually decades in the making. It seems like this was his first ever proper academic job though - is that correct?

Was his phD self-funded? Or was it a fake phd all along?

I’d love more insight into the actual process here. Also, what did his students make of him? Have any spoken out?

Erm… why don’t you go and look it up yourself? You do know there’s a thing called Google, right?

SevenYellowHammers · 11/08/2026 06:15

noblegiraffe · 10/08/2026 23:31

Ok, so you can apply critical thinking to at least some things.

In my NQT training we had to stand in a circle and give the complete stranger in front of us a back massage while the person behind us gave us a massage. Perhaps that idea came from the Cambridge Faculty of Education.

I would have refused that one

Ladyfromthehill · 11/08/2026 06:50

LuckyHazelFox · 10/08/2026 08:08

In other words, you are wanting this to go away. Now the question is, why?

Maybe because some people don't enjoy rial by socialmedia and people piling in and bullying someone. There really doesnt have to be an ulterior motive.

x2boys · 11/08/2026 07:00

Ladyfromthehill · 11/08/2026 06:50

Maybe because some people don't enjoy rial by socialmedia and people piling in and bullying someone. There really doesnt have to be an ulterior motive.

By all accounts he himself did a fair bit of bullying...

beAsensible1 · 11/08/2026 07:02

Sartre · 10/08/2026 07:54

I think people need to back the fuck off the guy to be honest. It’s actually quite sickening how vicious humans become when pack mentality kicks in. If he’s a compulsive liar as it seems, he’s likely mentally ill and needs some support with that. A thousand cuts by media isn’t going to help. Let’s not forget he hasn’t murdered or raped anyone, he told some porkies and got a role he probably shouldn’t have as a result.

Barely anyone knew who he was a couple of weeks ago. He isn’t a celebrity, he’s just a (former) uni lecturer. Seems people won’t be happy until he hangs, it’s incredibly medieval.

This is so ridiculous, why is front page new for nearly 2 weeks. It’s a random lying professor ffs. Outside of his his peers how is this is national news. I had a lying alcoholic professor, why would anyone else care ?!?

Lougle · 11/08/2026 07:18

beAsensible1 · 11/08/2026 07:02

This is so ridiculous, why is front page new for nearly 2 weeks. It’s a random lying professor ffs. Outside of his his peers how is this is national news. I had a lying alcoholic professor, why would anyone else care ?!?

It's the context of the lying. It's the using the lies to gain position.

x2boys · 11/08/2026 07:21

beAsensible1 · 11/08/2026 07:02

This is so ridiculous, why is front page new for nearly 2 weeks. It’s a random lying professor ffs. Outside of his his peers how is this is national news. I had a lying alcoholic professor, why would anyone else care ?!?

Maybe because of the outrageous lies
They were not smsll white lies but abdolute whoppers

x2boys · 11/08/2026 07:38

sammyvine · 10/08/2026 23:44

If Arday was White, no way this scandal gets as much traction as it's getting. I mean front page news for many days! Really?
He is resigned and is now known as a fraud. What else do people want to happen?
I honestly think White right wingers want this man to be lynched.

I disagreee he told some abdolute whoppers to get where he is
Also giving false hope to parents of non verbal disabled children it goes much deeper than the plagirism
And its not just about him.
Its also about how many highly " Educated" people fell for it .

tramtracks · 11/08/2026 07:48

sammyvine · 11/08/2026 00:01

Oh purlease! The UK loves hiding behind their racism and pretending not to see it. Same thing happens in football. Whenever England flop, they use a Black or Mixed raced player as the public scapegoat.
This story has been made to be way bigger than what it would be if Arday was White, because White right wing people in the media are pushing for Arday to be executed. I mean the person who outed Arday in this whole scandal is a full on racist anyways.

Not true. The Salt Path scandal was a major story. It is the sheer audacity and level of lying that grabs the attention. Also he did put himself massively front and centre - editing the Today Program etc. He didn’t just stay out of the public eye - he very much put himself in it.

But I do agree - he must have some serious mental health issues. Unfortunately I think he is a sociopath/narcissist. Very similar to the Salt Path author. Or the countless others who have lived their lives in a similar way. The accounts of student interactions are quite telling. Bullying and threatening behaviour when gently confronted about supervision/teaching or grades etc. The same to anyone questioning his integrity.

SomethingFun · 11/08/2026 08:12

SevenYellowHammers · 10/08/2026 22:29

Being a Cambridge Professor isn’t ordinary.

Well he isn’t anymore and it’s very unlikely he will be reoffered his role back after the investigations with a massive apology because everyone else is wrong and he’s telling the truth. The fact that he managed to spin a tale and find a Cambridge audience for it is the thing that makes him extraordinary- which is why we are talking about it.

You aren’t meant to be able to essentially rock up and just become a top academic because you’d quite like to be one. If this is not the case then the whole of academia is a house of cards. Which would be fine if it was someone’s private passion project but it’s not is it - the public contribute to it through taxes and fees. At least you didn’t have to buy a copy of The Salt Path yourself.

Gloriia · 11/08/2026 08:13

'Not true. The Salt Path scandal was a major story. It is the sheer audacity and level of lying that grabs the attention. Also he did put himself massively front and centre - editing the Today Program etc. He didn’t just stay out of the public eye - he very much put himself in it.'

Exactly. If he'd stfu, kept his head down and done his job he'd have got away with it but when people parade about trumpeting their fakery they get attention.

The racism accusations are so tedious yet so very predictable. Do people seriously think just because you're black you're allowed to live as a fraud? I don't get it.

LuckyHazelFox · 11/08/2026 08:17

Ladyfromthehill · 11/08/2026 06:50

Maybe because some people don't enjoy rial by socialmedia and people piling in and bullying someone. There really doesnt have to be an ulterior motive.

Great, if you can say you apply that moral code every single time, no matter who the subject is. Nobody is enjoying anything; they are exercising their right to make comments based on their observations.

LuckyHazelFox · 11/08/2026 08:22

Gloriia · 11/08/2026 08:13

'Not true. The Salt Path scandal was a major story. It is the sheer audacity and level of lying that grabs the attention. Also he did put himself massively front and centre - editing the Today Program etc. He didn’t just stay out of the public eye - he very much put himself in it.'

Exactly. If he'd stfu, kept his head down and done his job he'd have got away with it but when people parade about trumpeting their fakery they get attention.

The racism accusations are so tedious yet so very predictable. Do people seriously think just because you're black you're allowed to live as a fraud? I don't get it.

Your last point hits the nail right on the head. White saviours really don't help. I can imagine the people they patronise just roll their eyes at them. POC can make their own minds up about what constitutes racism. However Arday's current illustration of racism has crushed its credibility and between white saviours (at Cambridge) and pisstakers, race relations take yet another hit.

noblegiraffe · 11/08/2026 08:27

Can anyone point to white right wing media people calling for Arday to be executed, please?

MrsMavisPike · 11/08/2026 08:27

Will he have to pay back his salary?