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The Jason Arday scandal, part deux

933 replies

KatiePricesKnickers · 10/08/2026 07:09

As the book launch is coming, let the discussion continue.

First thread: https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/5563599-the-jason-arday-scandal?utm_campaign=thread&utm_medium=share
This is lifted from the thread in the education section, which is an interesting summary
https://www.ian-leslie.com/p/the-great-and-unfortunate-story-of?r=8w0woc&triedRedirect=true

Or AIBU with not letting this fade away?

The Great and Unfortunate Story of Jason Arday

A One-Stop Shop For the Craziest Scandal of 2026

https://www.ian-leslie.com/p/the-great-and-unfortunate-story-of?r=8w0woc&triedRedirect=true

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NotAnotherScarf · 15/08/2026 22:46

sammyvine · 15/08/2026 21:47

White people are still mad about this? Why are soo many of you always angry?
The man has passed, yet a lot of you are still yapping on about him. Don't you have respect? The man lied but he never killed anybody.

And the person who claimed to be from the bank and convinced the old woman to transfer her money to a safe bank account never killed no one either

But both were crooks

And aren't you being rather racist assuming everyone upset is white. You do realise that anyone reporting racial prejudice is likely to be less believed because of his attempt to deflect from his criminal act

Ok I forgot white people can't be racially abused. ..tell that to 600,000 gypsies killed by Hitler

SevenYellowHammers · 15/08/2026 22:50

TrunkElliot · 15/08/2026 21:58

This thread is an absolute disgrace.
As are the posters who are celebrating his suicide.

Edited

You’re right.

I’m logging out for a few days… or more .

FFS mumsnet take these threads down. People must stop speculating.

I get that it can addictive but this is too horrible and tragic to keep picking over like vultures.

Switch your phones off for a bit, hug your loved ones and remember what is really important in this life.

Lougle · 15/08/2026 22:58

ForestAtTheSea · 15/08/2026 22:24

@Lougle
Thanks for explaining further; now I understand better what you meant: that it’s damaging because it’s unrealistic for many kids with GDD and what their parents are expecting to happen, based on “examples” like him.

I was looking at it from another angle, that if he was autistic, it is (to me) unlikely that he would have told so many untruths.

But your explanation of the various barriers (like listening and speech) was very interesting because while I knew some of it in a general way, I didn’t grasp that point that if you can solve what holds them behind, the whole gap that was there is removed. Probably for support like scribes or speech-to-text-systems you do need to plan for more time to do the same task, though, so the barrier can be overcome but it might take more energy out of the person.

I think this method could also be applied to some misguided DEI politics; that you don’t lower the standards – which isn’t fair to the others who tried to reach them – but instead help people at an earlier point to gain the necessary skills or knowledge, if they didn’t have a chance to acquire them before, due to disadvantage(s).

There are all sorts of inequality in the world that we don't compensate for, or even attempt to. For example, a child from a poor background may be incredibly smart and dream of being a commercial airline pilot. Well, it isn't going to happen unless they can afford all the flying lessons. We wouldn't let them fly with a lower number of lessons because it's expensive. We don't let people do certain jobs unless they pass a high level medical examination. You can't be an accountant unless you've got mathematical skills to pass exams. You can't be a scaffolder if you're scared of heights.

I agree with you completely. The answer to inequality is to give equality of opportunity - that might mean giving more resources to a disadvantaged person to allow them to develop skills. But it isn't equality to simply reduce the criteria.

Nameychangington · 15/08/2026 23:06

TrunkElliot · 15/08/2026 21:58

This thread is an absolute disgrace.
As are the posters who are celebrating his suicide.

Edited

Point at the posts which are celebrating his suicide. No one is celebrating, dial back on the hyperbole

sammyvine · 15/08/2026 23:13

NotAnotherScarf · 15/08/2026 22:42

No but he's done a complete disservice to any person of colour who legitimately raises the issue of harrisment due to colour.

He has let down people who battle through learning difficulties to succeed.

He has black marked every student he's taught.

Let me ask you about the special Olympics and the fall out over the Spanish basket ball team

Look up what happened to the games, to the people effected by the actions of those other fraudsters and tell me how it differs from these events.

He was a crook end of

You are not even a person of colour so why do you even care about this?

KatiePricesKnickers · 16/08/2026 07:00

sammyvine · 15/08/2026 23:13

You are not even a person of colour so why do you even care about this?

Do you see racism everywhere?

This guy lied about his disabilities and lied about having cancer.

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Hoppity80 · 16/08/2026 07:13

What I found a bit upsetting was the fact there was some truth in many of the things he said.
He did clearly do charity runs that were difficult and challenging because there are videos of this and there are testimonies from some of his teachers talking about his difficulties.
Why he had to embellish so much is beyond me though, when all these achievements would have been impressive alone and it is sad that there was little acknowledgment of this.
My only thought is perhaps someone early in his career told him advancing in academia is about ‘brand’ as much as achievements and he took this a bit too literally.
I do wonder if Nathan Cofnas - who I was a little surprised to find was born in 1987 (assumed he was about 60!) has done any of the things Jason achieved or if he began his own academic career from Jason’s starting position.

Lougle · 16/08/2026 08:45

Hoppity80 · 16/08/2026 07:13

What I found a bit upsetting was the fact there was some truth in many of the things he said.
He did clearly do charity runs that were difficult and challenging because there are videos of this and there are testimonies from some of his teachers talking about his difficulties.
Why he had to embellish so much is beyond me though, when all these achievements would have been impressive alone and it is sad that there was little acknowledgment of this.
My only thought is perhaps someone early in his career told him advancing in academia is about ‘brand’ as much as achievements and he took this a bit too literally.
I do wonder if Nathan Cofnas - who I was a little surprised to find was born in 1987 (assumed he was about 60!) has done any of the things Jason achieved or if he began his own academic career from Jason’s starting position.

Edited

It is confusing. There are news articles from 2010 covering his first marathon, and his last marathon, but none in between.

I do think it's odd that no-one in his family came forwards and said anything about his childhood to back him up.

Forgotthebins · 16/08/2026 09:10

NotAnotherScarf · 15/08/2026 22:44

No not if stops someone else ruining other people who have worked fucking hard to achieve and get it stolen by a crook.

What's the difference between him and the Nigerian prince...nothing

Tell me what you think is the main point of similarity between him and the putative “Nigerian Prince”?

ScholesPanda · 16/08/2026 09:18

You'd think people could leave him alone now he's dead. He has a widow and children, who can't be very old.
What do people want, his corpse on trial?
Makes me sick to my stomach, all happily supported by @mnhq

Sartre · 16/08/2026 09:28

Sartre · 10/08/2026 07:54

I think people need to back the fuck off the guy to be honest. It’s actually quite sickening how vicious humans become when pack mentality kicks in. If he’s a compulsive liar as it seems, he’s likely mentally ill and needs some support with that. A thousand cuts by media isn’t going to help. Let’s not forget he hasn’t murdered or raped anyone, he told some porkies and got a role he probably shouldn’t have as a result.

Barely anyone knew who he was a couple of weeks ago. He isn’t a celebrity, he’s just a (former) uni lecturer. Seems people won’t be happy until he hangs, it’s incredibly medieval.

Just quoting myself in the hope those who joined in with the tirade of abuse aimed at a regular human being feel deeply ashamed of themselves. If not, you should.

BySunnyJadeEagle · 16/08/2026 09:33

People are talking about it because he used accusations to try and stop people printing articles about his allegded plagiarism and dodgy academic work.

Reporting people to the Police for harassment and sending cease and desist letters from a well known aggressive legal firm with implications of racism. Which did shut that that attempt.

But it also caused suspicious so other publications started digging more and then when given the opportunity to explain, he came up with more lies and said it was all a racist witch hunt and he had twice been threatened by a masked intruder into Cambridge offices, once with a knife but hadn't reported it to the Police and that the Police had investigated a pigs head being sent to his parents.

When the reporters found no evidence of any of this, it made it an even bigger story and caused even more digging into his history of lies.

He lied and then made false allegations of racist attacks to try and claim it was all a racist witch hunt.

It's important that has been exposed along with all the other lies.

He courted publicity and made a lot of money from it then when he was being exposed, cried racism.

ScholesPanda · 16/08/2026 09:36

BySunnyJadeEagle · 16/08/2026 09:33

People are talking about it because he used accusations to try and stop people printing articles about his allegded plagiarism and dodgy academic work.

Reporting people to the Police for harassment and sending cease and desist letters from a well known aggressive legal firm with implications of racism. Which did shut that that attempt.

But it also caused suspicious so other publications started digging more and then when given the opportunity to explain, he came up with more lies and said it was all a racist witch hunt and he had twice been threatened by a masked intruder into Cambridge offices, once with a knife but hadn't reported it to the Police and that the Police had investigated a pigs head being sent to his parents.

When the reporters found no evidence of any of this, it made it an even bigger story and caused even more digging into his history of lies.

He lied and then made false allegations of racist attacks to try and claim it was all a racist witch hunt.

It's important that has been exposed along with all the other lies.

He courted publicity and made a lot of money from it then when he was being exposed, cried racism.

He's dead. Even if you think all his crimes deserve the death penalty, he's dead. What more do you want? A second death? Do you even understand what dead means?
Are you able to empathise on any level with his widow and young children?

Gloriia · 16/08/2026 09:44

ScholesPanda · 16/08/2026 09:36

He's dead. Even if you think all his crimes deserve the death penalty, he's dead. What more do you want? A second death? Do you even understand what dead means?
Are you able to empathise on any level with his widow and young children?

I think its obvious what people want. They want those who enabled the delusions to be held accountable so the whole tragic situation doesn't ever happen again.

ScholesPanda · 16/08/2026 09:54

Gloriia · 16/08/2026 09:44

I think its obvious what people want. They want those who enabled the delusions to be held accountable so the whole tragic situation doesn't ever happen again.

If you believe that is what all his critics want, then you'd have believed his most outlandish claims too

Todolisttoolong · 16/08/2026 10:02

ScholesPanda · 16/08/2026 09:36

He's dead. Even if you think all his crimes deserve the death penalty, he's dead. What more do you want? A second death? Do you even understand what dead means?
Are you able to empathise on any level with his widow and young children?

A retraction of his faked research so it no longer has influence, a review of the grades of all students he supervised and review of support for his current students. As review of all his course material and whether any corrective teaching needs to be done. A review of all recruitment procedures and the influence of DEI within universities. A consideration of whether some students need a refund of fees. Instigation proper due diligence on all recruits. A review of academic standards procedures…. Not just at Cambridge either.

BySunnyJadeEagle · 16/08/2026 10:12

ScholesPanda · 16/08/2026 09:36

He's dead. Even if you think all his crimes deserve the death penalty, he's dead. What more do you want? A second death? Do you even understand what dead means?
Are you able to empathise on any level with his widow and young children?

Of course I do.

But people accused of things die all the time. Convicted paedophiles have high suicide rates.

Should we have not investigated Saville since he was dead?

Should we automatically stop talking about cons, fraud, lies, false allegations or crimes because the person died?

JA actions harmed a lot of people. And caused damage to society.

Nameychangington · 16/08/2026 10:13

ScholesPanda · 16/08/2026 09:36

He's dead. Even if you think all his crimes deserve the death penalty, he's dead. What more do you want? A second death? Do you even understand what dead means?
Are you able to empathise on any level with his widow and young children?

We are allowed to talk about people, even when they're dead. No one wanted him to die, no one is saying they're happy he's died. No one is sending the thread to his family, it's a discussion about him not to him.

You seem to think him being discussed is meant as some kind of punishment, it's not, he courted publicity himself with his claims about his life, and the people who pushed him upwards in his career pushed him into the spotlight too. You can't unring that bell once the publicity is not going how you want any more. Why are you so keen to try to shame people into not discussing things?

ScholesPanda · 16/08/2026 10:18

BySunnyJadeEagle · 16/08/2026 10:12

Of course I do.

But people accused of things die all the time. Convicted paedophiles have high suicide rates.

Should we have not investigated Saville since he was dead?

Should we automatically stop talking about cons, fraud, lies, false allegations or crimes because the person died?

JA actions harmed a lot of people. And caused damage to society.

Whatever he did I think putting him on the same level as Jimmy Saville is pretty extreme.

Sunnibee · 16/08/2026 10:20

Lougle · 15/08/2026 22:04

I wasn't really commenting on the veracity of the ASD diagnosis - it's quite conceivable that there was confusion over the exact diagnosis, or that JA was referring to what he had been told as a child. For example, we used to tell DD1 that she had a "squiffy brain" because even the medics can't agree what her brain condition should be called.

What I was referring to as 'damage to the world of Autism' is more about the fact that if he was not nonverbal until age 11, and if he didn't learn to read and write at 18 (which isn't actually contradicted by having 2 GCSEs because one of the SEN adjustments is to have a scribe), then all those parents who are staring at their nonverbal, minimally verbal or language disordered children, hoping beyond hope that they too can overcome their difficulties, have been badly misled.

Some children do catch up. Glue ear, for example. Once treated, because they have normal intelligence and patterns of learning, these children will catch up. It is known that bilingual/trilingual children will present with a language delay in earlier years, but then will develop fluency. Children with pure speech and language disorders can be taught specific tools to understand language and because their barrier was language, they can catch up. Dyslexic students can be given software and resources to overcome the barriers they face, or use a dictaphone or scribe to communicate their thoughts.

Children with ASD have a pervasive disorder of development. I know there are some that would argue that it isn't a disorder and that they have super powers and that it is society that fails to accommodate their shiny uniqueness. However, reality bites, and in today's world, believe it that a child who is nonverbal and has a disorder that interferes with social interaction is going to be behind.

What people don't realise is that when there is global developmental delay the gap widens as time goes on. Think about it. Child X, average NT, develops 12 months worth of skills in 12 months. Child Y, globally delayed, is only developing 6 months of skills in 12 months.

So, at 3 years old, when they hit preschool and their only observer is not their parent, child X presents like a 3 year old. Child Y presents like a 1½ year old. 2 years later at 5, they start school. Child X is presenting like a 5 year old. Child Y presents like a 2½ year old. So now, the gap between them has increased to 2½ years from 1½ years.

For a child with GDD to 'catch up' they have to develop faster than the average child, and if they were going to do that, they wouldn't be delayed.

Now, there will be outliers. Some children plateau, others click later, etc. But for a child to be nonverbal at 11, and unable to read or write until after school age, it is phenomenal that they would be studying at postgraduate level and incredible that they might reach the standards of a prestigious university.

Parents battle to accept that their child will not follow the traditional path and that no effort on their part will 'catch their child up'. It's a huge shock and I know that for me, the realisation hit again and again, as key ages/stages occurred. When your child does not line up, does not sit in the circle, does not care what all the other children are doing....the list goes on.

False hope is incredibly damaging.

Development is non linear. Your analysis is much too simple. There's a huge variety of experience.
Read some of the research, before putting stuff out there that might affect others' wellbeing.
your experience is not universal.
From a mum of a kid with GDD.

TJH1 · 16/08/2026 10:25

BySunnyJadeEagle · 16/08/2026 10:12

Of course I do.

But people accused of things die all the time. Convicted paedophiles have high suicide rates.

Should we have not investigated Saville since he was dead?

Should we automatically stop talking about cons, fraud, lies, false allegations or crimes because the person died?

JA actions harmed a lot of people. And caused damage to society.

I have read some things in my time on this cesspit of a site but comparing JA to Saville takes the fucking biscuit, you should be ashamed of yourself

ScholesPanda · 16/08/2026 10:26

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BySunnyJadeEagle · 16/08/2026 10:40

ScholesPanda · 16/08/2026 10:18

Whatever he did I think putting him on the same level as Jimmy Saville is pretty extreme.

I'm not putting him on the same level as Saville, I'm using that as an example of why 'shut up, he's dead, what about his family?' is not a reason to compel shut up.

JA may not have had SA victims but he had victims. All the people who were disregarded, compelled to 'shut up' and threatened to do so while being accused of racism.

Students who may have had a shit teacher. People who gave him money for his book. People who gave him money to give his inspirational talks. Possibly the Unis paying him 100k plus a year or whatever it was.

Charities he claimed to work for.

Parents of non-verbal illiterate kids who have been being given the hope that you can go from non-verbal to Cambridge Professor in 20 years and from not being able to read or write to completing a PhD in 12 years!!

The academics that work has gone unrecognised while his pub-chat level ramblings about Brit-Pop being racist were published. The other Cambridge Professors working hard and never having their head of dept welcoming them on TV holding their hand and saying how lucky they are to have him.

The people and family of people with broken legs, strokes, cancer, brain tumours, epilepsy and whatever else he claimed who are given hope they too won't be held back by serious health challenges and illnesses and could run 9 marathons on a broken leg and recover their memory loss in a fortnight.

It goes on and on.

And I think there's more to be uncovered but because he's dead, a lot of people will be put off doing so because like you said 'what does it matter? He's dead'.

It matters.

Sunnibee · 16/08/2026 10:41

BySunnyJadeEagle · 16/08/2026 10:12

Of course I do.

But people accused of things die all the time. Convicted paedophiles have high suicide rates.

Should we have not investigated Saville since he was dead?

Should we automatically stop talking about cons, fraud, lies, false allegations or crimes because the person died?

JA actions harmed a lot of people. And caused damage to society.

You are comparing him to a convicted peadophile? A man who quite possibly
-exaggerated some of his achievements ,
-copied some work from others and as a result
-got given a job he perhaps wasn't quite up to?
This was an internal HR issue, and a minor interest media story at most. Within academia there are many other examples of people doing much worse- with much more significant consequences. People fabricating evidence that has cost multi millions to correct , to fraudulently win Nobel prizes etc. none of them have received this kind of public attention. The reason for the difference? Racism.
The man's face was plastered all over mainstream and social media for weeks and weeks as a top news story. He not only lost his career and reputation, he has lost his life.
just. Give. It. A. Rest.

Lougle · 16/08/2026 10:46

Sunnibee · 16/08/2026 10:20

Development is non linear. Your analysis is much too simple. There's a huge variety of experience.
Read some of the research, before putting stuff out there that might affect others' wellbeing.
your experience is not universal.
From a mum of a kid with GDD.

Edited

I do read the research, but I also live the life. Some children will have leaps in development. Most won't. Almost none will have a profound transformation such as described by Jason Arday, and even if they do, it is more likely to be a splinter skill with clear deficits obviously evidenct in other areas.