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The Jason Arday scandal, part deux

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KatiePricesKnickers · 10/08/2026 07:09

As the book launch is coming, let the discussion continue.

First thread: https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/5563599-the-jason-arday-scandal?utm_campaign=thread&utm_medium=share
This is lifted from the thread in the education section, which is an interesting summary
https://www.ian-leslie.com/p/the-great-and-unfortunate-story-of?r=8w0woc&triedRedirect=true

Or AIBU with not letting this fade away?

The Great and Unfortunate Story of Jason Arday

A One-Stop Shop For the Craziest Scandal of 2026

https://www.ian-leslie.com/p/the-great-and-unfortunate-story-of?r=8w0woc&triedRedirect=true

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noblegiraffe · 11/08/2026 14:24

Quine0nline · 11/08/2026 13:44

Are fraud and falsification of documents as well as obtaining a pecuniary advantage not criminal.offences? Has anyone raised these issues with the police?

Which documents did he falsify?

If we're talking about the plagiarism leading to his academic appointment then the uni is going to be hard pressed to sue him given that he was investigated and cleared of plagiarism twice. Mind you, this was back when they thought it was a racist witch hunt of a respected black academic and not well-founded concerns about a massive liar. I wonder if the plagiarism inquiry would have found differently if so.

DancingOctopus · 11/08/2026 14:31

x2boys · 10/08/2026 08:19

I did because of his incredible claim to have been non verbal untill 11
I was always sceptical
But there will be parents of disabled non verbal children who would have clung to that and its gives false hope which is very cruel

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Yes.
I know people that his story has given hope to. As you say, it is incredibly cruel.
When I read that he was non verbal until 11 and unable to read or write until 18, I was very sceptical. But I have friends who have found his story very inspiring.

WinterGold · 11/08/2026 16:28

SevenYellowHammers · 11/08/2026 06:15

I would have refused that one

Quite right.

On a TA course several years ago, we had to pair up with a partner we had never met before, put our faces together until our noses were nearly touching, look into each other’s eyes and say, “I love you” It was deeply uncomfortable and quite frankly actually rather disturbing.

It was supposed to be all about forming bonds and feeling comfortable with someone in your personal space.

Sorry, it was just psychobabble shit - in fact the whole course was. No practical use whatsoever in our day to day roles. Consequently, I have no time for this fluffy “sociology of education”

SevenYellowHammers · 11/08/2026 16:54

WinterGold · 11/08/2026 16:28

Quite right.

On a TA course several years ago, we had to pair up with a partner we had never met before, put our faces together until our noses were nearly touching, look into each other’s eyes and say, “I love you” It was deeply uncomfortable and quite frankly actually rather disturbing.

It was supposed to be all about forming bonds and feeling comfortable with someone in your personal space.

Sorry, it was just psychobabble shit - in fact the whole course was. No practical use whatsoever in our day to day roles. Consequently, I have no time for this fluffy “sociology of education”

Dear lord, how awful! So much in service training is rubbish. From “Get into groups and brainstorm….” to pseudoscientific twaddle. I used to look around the hall at my colleagues laughing and responding obediently and I just couldn’t do it.

I think the study of education within sociology would be interesting. Looking at trends and attitudes and so on. There seems to be a lack of ability to access impact of political policy on education and society.

These external trainers though. Really, they need registration and monitoring. They are an insult to education professionals but worse than that they come out of school budgets!

noblegiraffe · 11/08/2026 17:04

WinterGold · 11/08/2026 16:28

Quite right.

On a TA course several years ago, we had to pair up with a partner we had never met before, put our faces together until our noses were nearly touching, look into each other’s eyes and say, “I love you” It was deeply uncomfortable and quite frankly actually rather disturbing.

It was supposed to be all about forming bonds and feeling comfortable with someone in your personal space.

Sorry, it was just psychobabble shit - in fact the whole course was. No practical use whatsoever in our day to day roles. Consequently, I have no time for this fluffy “sociology of education”

Omg what. I thought the massage was bad enough.

I was thinking about how they got us all to obediently do it, it was quite sneaky
'form a circle'
'turn so that you're all facing in the same direction'
'put your hands on the shoulders of the person in front of you' (ok, bit weird but maybe we're about to do a conga or something)
'give them a massage' (wtf oh no the person behind me is doing it so I have to really, I'll just wiggle my thumbs a bit)
so basically if one person starts, everyone just joins in because you're pretty much already there.

Perhaps there's an education theory there about getting people to do stuff they absolutely don't want to do, but we were just told we all deserved a massage.

Did people do the I love you thing?

Neverstopwondering · 11/08/2026 17:05

noblegiraffe · 11/08/2026 12:51

I'm sure I read that he said he didn't say his first word till 11 and it was 'Hello' so a claim of no language. And that when he was at uni doing his Masters, his reading ability was about the same level as that of his 3 year old daughter (that tidbit comes from his memoir apparently).

I mean, surely someone said 'look Jason, that's obvious horseshit'.

Apparently not

WinterGold · 11/08/2026 17:20

noblegiraffe · 11/08/2026 17:04

Omg what. I thought the massage was bad enough.

I was thinking about how they got us all to obediently do it, it was quite sneaky
'form a circle'
'turn so that you're all facing in the same direction'
'put your hands on the shoulders of the person in front of you' (ok, bit weird but maybe we're about to do a conga or something)
'give them a massage' (wtf oh no the person behind me is doing it so I have to really, I'll just wiggle my thumbs a bit)
so basically if one person starts, everyone just joins in because you're pretty much already there.

Perhaps there's an education theory there about getting people to do stuff they absolutely don't want to do, but we were just told we all deserved a massage.

Did people do the I love you thing?

Do you know what? Recalling the course cringe incident, I now seem to remember it was even worse, because we had to put our chairs facing each other and our hands on our partners knees whilst doing the eye contact and love message. What on earth it was all about, god only knows and like you’ve said, I wish I had just refused to do it. What would have happened anyway? Maybe if I’d started a protest, others might have joined in.

i quite agree with @SevenYellowHammers, education within sociology and understanding changing attitudes/trends in education would indeed have been fascinating. I also would have far more appreciated a practical course on the best or most appropriate way to calm an inconsolable or angry child or how to encourage confidence in a reluctant learner, not to test my own and other adult’s endurance of the invasion of personal space.

There was definitely a feeling on this course of almost making it up as the presenter went along, but as you say, they can get away with this sort of psychometric nonsense by trying to reduce complex human behaviours and neurodiversity down to neat quadrants or letters to create artificial boxes.

x2boys · 11/08/2026 17:36

noblegiraffe · 11/08/2026 17:04

Omg what. I thought the massage was bad enough.

I was thinking about how they got us all to obediently do it, it was quite sneaky
'form a circle'
'turn so that you're all facing in the same direction'
'put your hands on the shoulders of the person in front of you' (ok, bit weird but maybe we're about to do a conga or something)
'give them a massage' (wtf oh no the person behind me is doing it so I have to really, I'll just wiggle my thumbs a bit)
so basically if one person starts, everyone just joins in because you're pretty much already there.

Perhaps there's an education theory there about getting people to do stuff they absolutely don't want to do, but we were just told we all deserved a massage.

Did people do the I love you thing?

How long ago was this ?
Im not sure thry could get away with that now
There are lots of people who dont like close contact with others for numerous different reasons.

WonderfulSmith · 11/08/2026 17:37

DancingOctopus · 11/08/2026 14:31

Yes.
I know people that his story has given hope to. As you say, it is incredibly cruel.
When I read that he was non verbal until 11 and unable to read or write until 18, I was very sceptical. But I have friends who have found his story very inspiring.

I didn’t read or write until I was 8, in fact I was put in the remedial class at school, I went on to get a degree after a teacher in my secondary school gave me so extra help because she thought I might have this dyslexia thing she’d heard about.
So strange things can happen, but to say you didn’t read or write until 18 and then got a degree is madness.

WinterGold · 11/08/2026 17:56

WonderfulSmith · 11/08/2026 17:37

I didn’t read or write until I was 8, in fact I was put in the remedial class at school, I went on to get a degree after a teacher in my secondary school gave me so extra help because she thought I might have this dyslexia thing she’d heard about.
So strange things can happen, but to say you didn’t read or write until 18 and then got a degree is madness.

And speech therapy for three hours, six or seven days a week? Not on the NHS I know and I very much doubt it was private.

The Jason Arday scandal, part deux
LuckyHazelFox · 11/08/2026 18:14

Quine0nline · 11/08/2026 13:44

Are fraud and falsification of documents as well as obtaining a pecuniary advantage not criminal.offences? Has anyone raised these issues with the police?

They are really but who's going to want to take it down that route and bring criminal proceedings to Cambridge's door?

SevenYellowHammers · 11/08/2026 18:33

x2boys · 11/08/2026 17:36

How long ago was this ?
Im not sure thry could get away with that now
There are lots of people who dont like close contact with others for numerous different reasons.

It’s worse now.

And recommendations for this hogwash spread like wildfire amongst academy CEOs.

When I worked for a local authority, we used to get together to share good practice and resources. It was so useful.

Nowadays these snake oil sellers go round with their hokum.

Let’s face it anyone can make a few slides, invent a daft activity and find a few choice quotations to back it up and make it look like research.

And you my tax paying MN sisters are paying for it all!

I can’t imagine there are many teachers and TAs who would not prefer a day to tidy their classrooms, read up on the kids (especially the SEND ones) and get resources in order.

You do get the ones who are grasping the slippery ladder you make out the insets are useful. The rest sit obediently. Some do their Tesco shop on their phones. Others play word bingo: nonnegotiable, front and centre, value added, ofsted, resilience, positive mindset…

LuckyHazelFox · 11/08/2026 18:55

SevenYellowHammers · 11/08/2026 18:33

It’s worse now.

And recommendations for this hogwash spread like wildfire amongst academy CEOs.

When I worked for a local authority, we used to get together to share good practice and resources. It was so useful.

Nowadays these snake oil sellers go round with their hokum.

Let’s face it anyone can make a few slides, invent a daft activity and find a few choice quotations to back it up and make it look like research.

And you my tax paying MN sisters are paying for it all!

I can’t imagine there are many teachers and TAs who would not prefer a day to tidy their classrooms, read up on the kids (especially the SEND ones) and get resources in order.

You do get the ones who are grasping the slippery ladder you make out the insets are useful. The rest sit obediently. Some do their Tesco shop on their phones. Others play word bingo: nonnegotiable, front and centre, value added, ofsted, resilience, positive mindset…

WTF

Lougle · 11/08/2026 19:34

noblegiraffe · 11/08/2026 11:04

Given the research that shows how shoddy marking is in subjective subjects in national exams set by professional exam markers and marked by people trained in marking, I'm pretty sure that marking in university humanities department is more of an art than a science.

There will be a marking matrix for each module and criteria within. In one of my modules in my degree, the module grade was comprised of unequally weighted marks for a presentation and an essay. The lecturer told us that everyone must pass the presentation to pass the module. I pointed out that the mark scheme didn't say that. He said 'I run the module.' I said 'Well next year, you can change the mark scheme, but this year there is no requirement to pass the presentation.' He checked with faculty lead and realised that he couldn't introduce a new rule at will.

Neverstopwondering · 11/08/2026 19:46

WinterGold · 11/08/2026 17:56

And speech therapy for three hours, six or seven days a week? Not on the NHS I know and I very much doubt it was private.

I know this is likely to be yet another tall story from this guy but actually one of my children had very delayed speech when he was getting near school age. We were lucky to have a speech therapist based locally that took a small group of children for two hours a day five days a week. Normally this was only for a term or two though. My son is in his 30s now, very different times back then when it came to access for specialist help.

x2boys · 11/08/2026 20:10

SevenYellowHammers · 11/08/2026 18:33

It’s worse now.

And recommendations for this hogwash spread like wildfire amongst academy CEOs.

When I worked for a local authority, we used to get together to share good practice and resources. It was so useful.

Nowadays these snake oil sellers go round with their hokum.

Let’s face it anyone can make a few slides, invent a daft activity and find a few choice quotations to back it up and make it look like research.

And you my tax paying MN sisters are paying for it all!

I can’t imagine there are many teachers and TAs who would not prefer a day to tidy their classrooms, read up on the kids (especially the SEND ones) and get resources in order.

You do get the ones who are grasping the slippery ladder you make out the insets are useful. The rest sit obediently. Some do their Tesco shop on their phones. Others play word bingo: nonnegotiable, front and centre, value added, ofsted, resilience, positive mindset…

I know what you mean about snake oil sellers
I used to be a mental health nurse
About 20 years ago the trust i worked for was taken in by one of these phonies
They spent thousands on his new intiative
Basically his idea was instead of letting patients spend all day im bed lets get them up and involved in therapeutic activities he called it " Refocusing"
Talk about reinventing the wheel🙄

Jane379 · 11/08/2026 20:17

WinterGold · 11/08/2026 16:28

Quite right.

On a TA course several years ago, we had to pair up with a partner we had never met before, put our faces together until our noses were nearly touching, look into each other’s eyes and say, “I love you” It was deeply uncomfortable and quite frankly actually rather disturbing.

It was supposed to be all about forming bonds and feeling comfortable with someone in your personal space.

Sorry, it was just psychobabble shit - in fact the whole course was. No practical use whatsoever in our day to day roles. Consequently, I have no time for this fluffy “sociology of education”

What?? I had to do something similar to that in a youth theatre club once, it was tongue in cheek but still pretty embarrassing.

How is that helpful on a TA course?

noblegiraffe · 11/08/2026 20:23

One good thing(!) about schools having been massively underfunded for years is the lack of money for hiring in these crappy consultants. The vast majority of INSET these days is delivered by ambitious SLT wannabes in blue suits and brown shoes where we all have to sit round tables and talk about how we use oracy in our lessons or whatever.

x2boys · 11/08/2026 20:26

noblegiraffe · 11/08/2026 20:23

One good thing(!) about schools having been massively underfunded for years is the lack of money for hiring in these crappy consultants. The vast majority of INSET these days is delivered by ambitious SLT wannabes in blue suits and brown shoes where we all have to sit round tables and talk about how we use oracy in our lessons or whatever.

😂😂Blue suits and Brown shoes
That was so true at my sons school.

LuckyHazelFox · 11/08/2026 20:30

noblegiraffe · 11/08/2026 20:23

One good thing(!) about schools having been massively underfunded for years is the lack of money for hiring in these crappy consultants. The vast majority of INSET these days is delivered by ambitious SLT wannabes in blue suits and brown shoes where we all have to sit round tables and talk about how we use oracy in our lessons or whatever.

I don't know how you still do the job. I obviously don't know your circumstances but that description of the ambitious wankers' attire did make me laugh. You must feel the passion being banged out of you.

SevenYellowHammers · 11/08/2026 20:48

x2boys · 11/08/2026 20:26

😂😂Blue suits and Brown shoes
That was so true at my sons school.

All schools. It’s a uniform.

Jane379 · 11/08/2026 21:00

House2House2 · 10/08/2026 11:33

Compulsive liars and fantasists come in different race, gender, and any other characteristics you can think about. Jason is not unique and neither are prominent institutions immune from this.

If the idea is that race was the reason Cambridge fell for this, what then is the reason for Harvard falling for the lies of Adam Wheeler, Princeton for Jason Hogue, Elizabeth Hoover at Browns University? What about the Frank Abagnale (the one played by Leonardo Di Caprio). Remember he spent years a pediatrician at a hospital? What about Stewart Edwards a Civil Servant who spent 34 years as a family GP? More recently, what about Elizabeth Holmes?

We will always have compulsive liars and fantasists with us. Hounding this man and making the reason something to do about the university being "woke" conveniently ignore the myriad of instances where reputable organisations and people have been conned by white men. Those who rush to blame "woke" expose something interesting about their way of viewing the world.

I cannot help but laugh at the sheer ridiculousness of Jason's lies and would really want to know how he achieved this deception. That is on a scale of Frank Abagnale. What is it about human nature and these kinds of people that make such things happen? It's easy to say "how could anyone believe all this nonsense" but clearly they did and this keeps happening time and time again.

As we speak, someone is being taken advantage of by a con artist. Conned into giving up thousands and thousands of pounds. We then ask, how could the victim be so stupid. Alas, Jason Aday is not unique and this witch hunt says a lot about bias in society.

'What about the Frank Abagnale (the one played by Leonardo Di Caprio). Remember he spent years a pediatrician at a hospital'

Re Frank Abagnale, this is a good example but it's worth noting several of his claims about the extent of his successful frauds have since been questioned. Catch Me If You Can should not be taken as necessarily wholly factual, as per sources linked to on Wiki :

Beginning in the late 1970s, Abagnale claimed in public lectures and interviews that between the ages of 16 and 21 he had impersonated a Pan American pilot, a Georgia hospital physician, a Louisiana assistant attorney general, and a sociology professor, while evading a sustained FBI manhunt across 26 countries and cashing more than $2.5 million in fraudulent checks.[29] Journalists who investigated these claims beginning in 1978 found them to be largely or entirely unsupported. Individuals whom Abagnale had criminally targeted described the lasting effects of his actual, documented offenses:

He had a key to our front door, it was never recovered. We changed the lock. I fed him. I cooked. I don't trust people as much anymore.

— Charlette Parks, Abagnale victim interviewed April 27, 1981, The Advocate
The Louisiana attorney general claim
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Abagnale claimed that he passed the Louisiana bar examination, worked for Attorney General Jack P. F. Gremillion, and closed 33 cases. These claims were challenged by journalists as early as 1978.[29][5] No record has been found of Abagnale ever being a member of the Louisiana Bar.[30] In 1978, the Louisiana State Bar Association reviewed all bar exam records and concluded Abagnale had never taken the exam under his name or any alias; the state attorney general's office examined payroll records for the period Abagnale claimed to have worked there and found no trace of him.[5] First Assistant Attorney General Kenneth C. DeJean, after testing Abagnale's claimed familiarity with the office, was direct in his assessment:

The man is not an imposter, he is a liar.

— Kenneth C. DeJean, First Assistant Attorney General, 'The Great Imposter', April 24, 1981, The Advocate[31]
The Georgia pediatrician claim
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Abagnale claimed to have worked for a year as a supervising pediatrician at Cobb General Hospital in Marietta, Georgia, overseeing seven residents and 42 nurses on a midnight-to-8 am shift. Hospital administrators told journalist Ira Perry that no such overnight pediatrician shift existed at the hospital during the period in question.[5] Author Alan C. Logan later demonstrated, using New York State Archives records, that Abagnale was incarcerated at Great Meadow Prison at the age of 18, the same age at which he claimed to have worked at Cobb General.[6]

Abagnale's impersonation of a doctor is not entirely without basis. In 1970, at the University of Arizona, he told students he was a physician and conducted physical examinations on female students under the pretense of a Pan Am recruitment program. University officials confirmed the interactions with 12 students.[5] In 2021, Louisiana State University journalism professor Robert Mann expressed regret that he had not challenged Abagnale's account of this episode when he covered a campus lecture: "Reading those words now, in which Abagnale bragged about sexual abuse, makes me sick."[32]

The BYU professor claim
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In public lectures, Abagnale claimed to have taught sociology for two semesters at Brigham Young University (BYU) using a falsified doctorate. In 2006, KSL-TV journalist Scott Haws challenged Abagnale on this claim, presenting his own published words as evidence. Abagnale initially said he could not recall the details and attributed the claim to his co-author Stan Redding. Haws then showed him that the claim appeared in materials Abagnale himself had authored, including the film's closing credits. Abagnale ultimately conceded he may have been a guest lecturer.[33] BYU spokepeople have insisted there is no record of Abnagale or any of his aliases having been on the faculty or staff there, something that would exist for even a guest lecturer.[34]

Claims regarding the FBI
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In the years following the release of Catch Me If You Can, Abagnale increasingly claimed a long and formal relationship with the FBI. He told audiences he had been placed on the FBI Ten Most Wanted Fugitives list as a teenager, that he was granted a special parole in 1974 or 1975 to conduct undercover work for the bureau, that he received assignments directly from Director Clarence M. Kelley, and that he worked as an ethics instructor at the FBI Academy in Quantico, Virginia. By 2014, he was publicly stating that he was celebrating 38 years at the FBI.[35]

Journalist Ira Perry found in 1978 that Abagnale and his publicist were directing inquiries to a retired FBI official, Robert Russ Franck, whom they described as a former Atlanta agent familiar with Abagnale's case. Franck, who had in fact retired as head of the FBI's Houston Division and had never worked in Atlanta, told Perry he had never met Abagnale and could not verify any of his claims.[5] Eugene Stewart, a retired FBI agent who had led the Atlanta division during the period Abagnale claimed to have been a pediatrician there, described Abagnale to Perry as a low-level criminal.[5]

Pressed when Catch Me If You Can was released, Abagnale acknowledged on his company's website that he had never been on the FBI's Most Wanted list.[36] Retired FBI agent Jerri Williams, a white-collar crime specialist, rejected his claims of receiving assignments directly from Director Kelley: "If anybody tells you that they got an assignment directly from the FBI director, right from the head of the FBI, you know for a fact it's bullshit. It doesn't happen that way."[37] When the film was released, an FBI spokesperson confirmed that Abagnale had given lectures at the academy "from time to time," but denied that the bureau had given him commendations as claimed in the film's marketing.[38] In September 2022, retired FBI agent Alan Brown confirmed to journalist Javier Leiva that Abagnale's 1970 arrest in Marietta, Georgia, was a routine response to a teletype request; Abagnale was found in his hotel room without incident, contrary to the dramatic escape depicted in the film.[39]

In August 2022, Google disabled comments on Abagnale's "Talks at Google" video and added a disclaimer stating that Google did not endorse or vouch for the content, noting the video was being retained for historical purposes.[40]

Logan and Leiva investigations
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In 2020, author Alan C. Logan published The Greatest Hoax on Earth, an investigation into Abagnale's claimed criminal history drawing on prison records, administrative documents, and newspaper archives. Logan demonstrated using New York State Archives records that Abagnale was incarcerated at Great Meadow Prison as inmate #25367 from July 26, 1965, to December 24, 1968, the precise period during which Abagnale claimed to have committed his most celebrated frauds. Logan's research also documented numerous petty crimes Abagnale had never publicly acknowledged.[6] Abagnale declined to address the book's specific findings, calling it "not worthy of a comment."[6][25]

In 2022, investigative journalist Javier Leiva independently verified Logan's findings, confirmed federal court records showing Abagnale's Pan Am check conviction involved less than $1,500, and calculated that Abagnale was free for only a matter of months between 1965 and 1970. On June 23, 2022, Leiva confronted Abagnale at the Connect IT Global conference in Las Vegas with prison and court records in hand.[41]

On September 12, 2022, Xavier University in Cincinnati presented Abagnale with a "Heroes in Ethics" award. At the conclusion of his lecture, an audience member asked Abagnale whether he would acknowledge that his stories were fabricated. Abagnale denied telling any lies and stated he had no responsibility for the content of his autobiography, the film, or the Broadway musical. Xavier University subsequently removed all online reference to the event.[41]

In a 2002 interview with USA Today, Abagnale acknowledged that the long-term impersonations in his autobiography were exaggerated: "I impersonated a doctor for a few days, I was a lawyer for a few days. In the book, it's like I am doing this for a year."[42] Despite this concession, he continued to make the long-term impersonation claims in subsequent public appearances.[12][43] Abagnale's speaking fee has been reported to be between $20,000 and $30,000.[25]'

It does seem highly unlikely a teenager could impersonated done all these roles with no training and not been found out. I definitely agree with you re Abagnale being glamorised in the film: based on his own fraudulent autobiography.

Abagnale is quite like Arday in that one of the biggest parts of their frauds seems to have been claims made about their pasts memoirs.

WonderfulSmith · 11/08/2026 21:04

WinterGold · 11/08/2026 17:56

And speech therapy for three hours, six or seven days a week? Not on the NHS I know and I very much doubt it was private.

I’ve known two children who have gone to a specialist speech and language school. Both went for the entirety of year 1 and 2. One girl was as bright as s button but her speech was so disordered that only her family could understand her. When she came back to school her speech was amazing.

He’s still full of shit though.

x2boys · 11/08/2026 21:21

WonderfulSmith · 11/08/2026 21:04

I’ve known two children who have gone to a specialist speech and language school. Both went for the entirety of year 1 and 2. One girl was as bright as s button but her speech was so disordered that only her family could understand her. When she came back to school her speech was amazing.

He’s still full of shit though.

Most families dont get offered that and tbf SALT tend to promote total communication IME if a child is going to develop speech most will speak even if its disorded way before 11
I speak as a parent of a non verbal teen who also knows lots of non verbal teens through my son

x2boys · 11/08/2026 21:23

SevenYellowHammers · 11/08/2026 20:48

All schools. It’s a uniform.

😂😂so true !