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To feel utterly miserable about a future with Andy Burnham as PM?

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OneWarmHazelQuail · Today 01:23

I feel like I'm being stung in every possible way at the moment- £15 a day on tube to work, high mortgage costs, high energy costs, private schooling for SEN child (I was told state wouldn't be unlikely to assist him as he isn't mute or violent). My parents have had to help fund schooling it felt like my only hope as son has behavioural issues.

I also have an unsold old home that I have to rent out as it wouldn't sell. Buy-to-let mortgage costs, agent fees, maintenance and tax put me in a loss position.

I can't bear what the future holds with Andy Burnham. I have no doubt that he will find new and imaginative ways to keep me in this financial nightmare. I'm literally struggling from food poverty but regarded as rich by policy.

YABU- Andy Burnham is actually going to make things better

YANBU- I'm screwed

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OneWarmHazelQuail · Today 11:43

SummerPeonies2026 · Today 11:37

Coming back to you op. Of course you feel despair at a far left coup taking over our country, it has instilled fear that things will go from bad to even worse. That scenario may very well happen.

It might be better to take every day as it comes, rather than worrying about the future. Who knows we may have an election by Christmas and things could be looking much brighter by the new year. Or perhaps Burnham will be quietly a much more sensible and pragmatic person than his boss Corbyn.

Can the house be used for air bnb or short term stays whilst you try to sell it?

Organise respite care through social services? Just call them and say you aren’t coping. They will come out and listen to your son, and put extra support in place to help you.

You have a loving family and will come through this 💐

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Airbnb is a great idea, thank you! It had never occurred to me before.

I would need to wait until existing tenants to leave due to Renters Rights....I have no way to evict and tenancies are periodic now. Not sure how long they are planning on staying..

My worry with respite is that my son won't manage with strangers. Am worried about distressing him further

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thepariscrimefiles · Today 11:45

SummerPeonies2026 · Today 11:03

More union propaganda being regurgitated.

Let me guess. You are a Restore member/voter because Reform is too left-wing and 'woke'.

nearlylovemyusername · Today 11:45

bigboykitty · Today 10:49

Do you think?

it's numbers massaging - UK welfare bill is about 25% and includes pensions, so the graph doesn't compare apples with apples.

Welfare in Finland is universally accessible, unlike here when you lose childcare hours and many other benefits depends on your income
Welfare in Finland is time limited in terms of unemployment support
Finland taxes low and middle earners much more than UK

bafta16 · Today 11:45

My worry with respite is that my son won't manage with strangers. Am worried about distressing him further

Might be a chance to rest, regroup.

SuffolkSun · Today 11:50

SummerPeonies2026 · Today 11:22

The Labour government that you voted for and crowed on here for is sinking faster than the titanic. Burnham is lining his own pockets by seeing it through to the end.

Of course it is, sweetheart. Of course he is.

Bless.

beAsensible1 · Today 11:50

GasPanic · Today 11:28

I'm up for it so long as he does something different.

If he implements many of the things he has shown interest in in the past like LVT then it will be great.

If he backtracks and basically does the same treading water that everyone seems to do when they get in power so that he can survive until the next election without becoming too unpopular then probably best to ditch him asap and have another election.

Same old old is boring and doesn't cut it, no matter how unpopular it might be.

Same.

so tired of low effort scared PMs who won’t try anything.

randomchap · Today 11:51

beAsensible1 · Today 11:42

He spent too much overseas trying to win headlines and expending political capital on policies that were not in the manifesto. 2 years trying to push through euthanasia forcing through digital ID no leasehold reform.

bottling it on winter fuel

no political vision - what did he want for the uk what was his vision. Low tax? Better services? Better infrastructure ? Powerhouse over some eceonomic sector?

no one knows? Why is that?

reform want a low immigration country
tories low tax high privatisation
under kier what does labour want? No one knows everything he said he stood for when voted leader he revoked long ago.

if Joe bloggs can’t tell you what you stand for after 2 years in power that’s an abject failure. He controlled the levers of state and couldn’t even figure a national message that cut through.

other than giving Zelenskyy our tax money whenever he was trying to boost polling

The assisted suicide bill was a private members one. Not a government one.

Differentforgirls · Today 11:54

SummerPeonies2026 · Today 11:20

He intends to squat illegally in No10 so that’s the least of Burnham’s problems.

How is he "illegally" squatting?

NowSober · Today 11:55

OneHardyBiscuit · Today 08:47

Why do you have to bring trans people into every conversation. You seem obsessed with them... Bit creepy...

Why do you have to bring trans people into every conversation. You seem obsessed with them... Bit creepy...

No, wanting to put men in the Ladies is what is really creepy.

SummerPeonies2026 · Today 11:55

Op all political squabbling aside, please call the dr today.

CountingDaisies · Today 11:55

So what do you suggest?
Appropriate and redistribute?
A level politics?
You don’t have to accept anything. Get out, find a job or found your own business and get on with it.

The wealthy became wealthy through appropriation in the first place! Look at history, the feudal system. Even today people are having their house appropriated -or ‘compulsorily purchased’. It’s dispossession to provide land for property developers.

I suggest people become angry and do something about it. I’m not really suggesting it. I just think that’s what will happen when we reach a tipping point and people become more angry about what is happening to them.
Revolutions aren’t pretty.

A lot of poeple have jobs. They’re low paid and don’t provide a good life long standard of living. And here people are suggesting they get even less!
No.

Differentforgirls · Today 11:56

NowSober · Today 11:55

Why do you have to bring trans people into every conversation. You seem obsessed with them... Bit creepy...

No, wanting to put men in the Ladies is what is really creepy.

No people bringing trans people up on every thread is not only creepy but ill mannered to every other person posting.

5128gap · Today 11:58

EasternStandard · Today 11:06

You’ve made some incorrect assumptions about the op.

Maybe so. But this is a political thread about the possible impact of the new prime minister on a certain demographic; and the combination of circumstances the OP has gradually revealed over subsequent posts are particularly exceptional.

PropertyD · Today 11:58

redange · Today 01:35

More left wing damage done in 2 years than the previous 50 years..

They are doing untold damage with their almost Marxist views.

Who can be tax to pay others benefits (said by a senior Labour Minister!)

Putting 20% on private schools. Bet that a % of MP's are using private schools themselves or use their position to get into the school of THEIR choice. Where has that money gone??

Putting immense pressure on small businesses with their stupid stupid taxes.

Make a pathetic attempt to rein in the balloning benefits bill and failed. This is really dangerous. It means that more and more people on benefits vote for the party which will keep the staus quo for them.

Offering a childcare proposal for people who arent working? Just why??

SummerPeonies2026 · Today 12:00

OneWarmHazelQuail · Today 11:43

Airbnb is a great idea, thank you! It had never occurred to me before.

I would need to wait until existing tenants to leave due to Renters Rights....I have no way to evict and tenancies are periodic now. Not sure how long they are planning on staying..

My worry with respite is that my son won't manage with strangers. Am worried about distressing him further

Your son will need to get used to it op, and yes for a while it might be hard, but consider long term what getting regular breaks will do.

Burnham has no right to the premiership, a GE is inevitable as he won’t have the creditability or authority to do anything, so please just hold on. The Labour Party is tearing itself apart no, and I expect it to continue until it is finished altogether.

randomchap · Today 12:00

PropertyD · Today 11:58

They are doing untold damage with their almost Marxist views.

Who can be tax to pay others benefits (said by a senior Labour Minister!)

Putting 20% on private schools. Bet that a % of MP's are using private schools themselves or use their position to get into the school of THEIR choice. Where has that money gone??

Putting immense pressure on small businesses with their stupid stupid taxes.

Make a pathetic attempt to rein in the balloning benefits bill and failed. This is really dangerous. It means that more and more people on benefits vote for the party which will keep the staus quo for them.

Offering a childcare proposal for people who arent working? Just why??

You've no idea what Marxism means do you?

MrsPapillon · Today 12:02

Gloriia · Today 08:54

No, why do you think Northerners are thick or something?

It's what he says, what he does. Surely you haven't forgotten his cringeworthy performance during the pandemic?

He was a mayor. A glorified councillor. He should not be able to waltz into a top political position.

He didn’t “waltz in” from being a ‘glorified councillor’. He was a Cabinet member during the last Labour government. He was MP for Leigh for 16 years.

SuffolkSun · Today 12:08

SummerPeonies2026 · Today 11:28

Shall we have a conversation about the brainwashing in higher education or would you rather leave that sticky hornets nest alone?

As brainwashing in higher education is a myth (are Mechanical Engineers brainwashed? Medical students? Economists? Accountants? Lawyers? Computer systems analysts? Architects?) probably best you don't attempt to discuss it. I hate to see people humiliate themselves in public.

SuffolkSun · Today 12:11

SummerPeonies2026 · Today 11:27

Oh blossom, how naive. They don’t earn their millions in the job. It’s afterwards that it pays off - the circuits, the international events etc etc. Burnham has just sorted himself a very short term money spinner. We all know that.

The same would go - and has gone - for any PM. So, it's unclear what your point is.

glitterpaperchain · Today 12:12

SummerPeonies2026 · Today 12:00

Your son will need to get used to it op, and yes for a while it might be hard, but consider long term what getting regular breaks will do.

Burnham has no right to the premiership, a GE is inevitable as he won’t have the creditability or authority to do anything, so please just hold on. The Labour Party is tearing itself apart no, and I expect it to continue until it is finished altogether.

Hold on for what? Even if a GE is called soon, what tangible things are going to change quickly enough to help OP?

Marmalademorning · Today 12:16

SuffolkSun · Today 12:08

As brainwashing in higher education is a myth (are Mechanical Engineers brainwashed? Medical students? Economists? Accountants? Lawyers? Computer systems analysts? Architects?) probably best you don't attempt to discuss it. I hate to see people humiliate themselves in public.

Imagine typing out 'but what about the architects?!' with a straight face and thinking you’ve made a brilliant point 🙄

Pretending there isn't a massive ideological bias in higher education by pointing at computer analysts is pure gaslighting. If you're this terrified of a basic debate on a chat forum, no wonder you're resorting to patronising insults at other posters to try and shut it down.

vickylou78 · Today 12:16

OneWarmHazelQuail · Today 08:42

I can't even cope with him for the hours that he is at home, let alone if he was home all day.

It's so hard to see your child in such distress and not be able to help him

Oh Op sorry that sounds so hard. Hopefully as he gets older things will change.

bigboykitty · Today 12:17

Marmalademorning · Today 12:16

Imagine typing out 'but what about the architects?!' with a straight face and thinking you’ve made a brilliant point 🙄

Pretending there isn't a massive ideological bias in higher education by pointing at computer analysts is pure gaslighting. If you're this terrified of a basic debate on a chat forum, no wonder you're resorting to patronising insults at other posters to try and shut it down.

So you don't know what gaslighting is either.

glitterpaperchain · Today 12:20

Marmalademorning · Today 12:16

Imagine typing out 'but what about the architects?!' with a straight face and thinking you’ve made a brilliant point 🙄

Pretending there isn't a massive ideological bias in higher education by pointing at computer analysts is pure gaslighting. If you're this terrified of a basic debate on a chat forum, no wonder you're resorting to patronising insults at other posters to try and shut it down.

The point PP is making is quite clear, you just seem to have missed it

bafta16 · Today 12:21

Burnham is a red herring here. OP you are afraid. You perceive yourself to be on a knife edge. I have no doubt you are utterly exhausted.
Please consider a weeks respite for your son. Take a breath, regroup.
Maybe reconnect on a very light basis with a few folk.