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AIBU to think bad work feedback was linked to rejecting flirtation?

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lole · Today 11:50

I started a new job about a year ago that has a 12 month probationary period. This means that every 3 months, HR email and interview people I have worked with for any feedback. Bad reviews = sacked.

I worked closely with one person who was constantly trying to flirt and tease me. He is like a high school bully. I resisted these and tried to be professional at all times. He started being very harsh and making unrealistic deadlines for work to be delivered, which if I tried to push back I would get really nasty comments and messages but still professional. Off the record he would swear at me and tell me I'm "f"ing lazy" etc. My nerves are in tatters.

It turns out he gave me really really bad feedback with many examples twisted to fit his narrative. Even worse, a different more senior manager I did a little work for gave me an appallingly bad review with "I've heard about the quality of work from other associates, I would never ever want to work with her and don't want to have her anywhere near my work".

AIBU to feel this is deeply unfair and my name has been tarnished because I refused to entertain a man?

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TheCurious0range · Today 11:51

Did you report his behaviour at the time? If you didn't you need to now

BluntButEmpathic · Today 11:52

Report him to HR. So sorry you’ve experienced this.

lole · Today 11:59

I think the issue is that if I report it now, they will only think I am bringing it up as revenge against the bad feedback. I honestly think the only option is to quit.

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MaybeMeansMaybe · Today 12:00

It could be. It could also be because your work deserved it.

NadjaofAntipaxos · Today 12:03

It sounds like a horrible place to work full stop. I think you should look for a new job regardless.

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Tel12 · Today 12:06

What about actual examples of poor standards?

ChazsBrilliantAttitude · Today 12:07

Do you have any evidence of his behaviour because without it you don’t stand a chance.

To be honest with evidence you don’t stand much of a chance but you might get a better exit option.

I would look for a new job, the place sounds utterly toxic.

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CuriousKangaroo · Today 12:10

lole · Today 11:59

I think the issue is that if I report it now, they will only think I am bringing it up as revenge against the bad feedback. I honestly think the only option is to quit.

There is nothing to stop you from putting in a grievance AND quitting. I would certainly put in a grievance to protect my reputation as far as possible. What you have said sounds like sexual harassment and you can make clear in your grievance that despite ongoing sexual harassment, you had hoped things would improve and never expected him to retaliate to the extent that he would give you such a vicious and unfair appraisal which is why you have not filed a grievance until now. If you can back it up with examples of good work and his unreasonable behaviour, it should be taken more seriously and not seen in the context of retaliation.

If you are a member of a union, speak to them for advice/assistance.

Notquitethetruth · Today 12:11

Please don't let this go. That feedback from a senior manager is appalling. He is dismissing you based on what others have told him?
Did you have positive feedback from others? Use that to make a complaint. Try and write down instances where he was harassing you, write your own assessment of where he had twisted your contributions.
For your own well bring don't let this bully and predator get away with his sexual harassment and bullying behaviour.
Well said @CuriousKangaroo Said it better than me 😁

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ACynicalDad · Today 12:20

Tell HR, if you leave anyway and he does similar in the future then they will have an inkling that the next person to complain is genuine. Alternatively you may not be the first and if you take this forward then they may put it all together.

CanSeeClearlyNowTheRainHasGone · Today 12:37

lole · Today 11:50

I started a new job about a year ago that has a 12 month probationary period. This means that every 3 months, HR email and interview people I have worked with for any feedback. Bad reviews = sacked.

I worked closely with one person who was constantly trying to flirt and tease me. He is like a high school bully. I resisted these and tried to be professional at all times. He started being very harsh and making unrealistic deadlines for work to be delivered, which if I tried to push back I would get really nasty comments and messages but still professional. Off the record he would swear at me and tell me I'm "f"ing lazy" etc. My nerves are in tatters.

It turns out he gave me really really bad feedback with many examples twisted to fit his narrative. Even worse, a different more senior manager I did a little work for gave me an appallingly bad review with "I've heard about the quality of work from other associates, I would never ever want to work with her and don't want to have her anywhere near my work".

AIBU to feel this is deeply unfair and my name has been tarnished because I refused to entertain a man?

Even worse, a different more senior manager I did a little work for gave me an appallingly bad review with "I've heard about the quality of work from other associates, I would never ever want to work with her and don't want to have her anywhere near my work".

How do you even know this?

Thats not something a senior manager would ever commit to paper.

If you have this feedback you must have everyone else's... what do they say about you?

And reviews usually list areas to improve rather than simply a statement.

Jimeeno · Today 12:42

If someone I worked with called me “fucking lazy”, my email reporting it to HR would arrived within a minute of it leaving their lips. You really needed to raise this bullshit at the time.

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lole · Today 12:53

My other feedback was good - but HR said they look for "excellence across the board" and mixed feedback = bad.

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lole · Today 12:54

CanSeeClearlyNowTheRainHasGone · Today 12:37

Even worse, a different more senior manager I did a little work for gave me an appallingly bad review with "I've heard about the quality of work from other associates, I would never ever want to work with her and don't want to have her anywhere near my work".

How do you even know this?

Thats not something a senior manager would ever commit to paper.

If you have this feedback you must have everyone else's... what do they say about you?

And reviews usually list areas to improve rather than simply a statement.

I received a copy of the feedback wording

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lole · Today 12:54

I received a copy of the feedback wording

Then you have an HR process unlike any i have ever known.

Feedback is given on the basis that it is private, and that HR use it to form an opinion and may paraphrase common themes.

Please post the wording of the other feedback you received. Then we can probably help you.

BringBackCatsEyes · Today 12:59

doesn’t the feedback lead to a 2 way discussion with your line manager?
HR just blindly believe and log what colleagues say and fire people based on this?

you should have escalated the bullying before now. Do you have evidence?

OneZanyPoet · Today 13:01

This workplace sounds insane. A senior manager submitting a review that is based on hearsay should not be taken into account and they should be retrained PDQ on what’s acceptable. Creating a paper trail of an unfair review process is crazy and at the very least HR should know this. Why did he do that though??

You do need to submit a complaint about the sexual harassment as detailed above. You don’t have much to lose anyway and it might protect your reputation/ be the reason you can leave with a neutral reference.

I would get far away from this place.

SallyD00lally · Today 13:08

lole · Today 12:54

I received a copy of the feedback wording

a different more senior manager I did a little work for gave me an appallingly bad review with "I've heard about the quality of work from other associates, I would never ever want to work with her and don't want to have her anywhere near my work".

I really don't think this stands as they're supposed to be giving feedback personally, not through hearsay.

How was the work you did for them?

Viviennemary · Today 13:11

lole · Today 11:59

I think the issue is that if I report it now, they will only think I am bringing it up as revenge against the bad feedback. I honestly think the only option is to quit.

Before quitting you should report these two to HR. I bet it isnt the firrt time there has been complaints. However it sounds a toxic place to work.

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