AIBU to find missing extreme heat alerts suspicious?

[ProudCat]

I find it a bit suspicious that the Met Office has removed the extreme heat weather alerts from its forecasts.

You can still find the weather alerts hidden on a dashboard here https://ukhsa-dashboard.data.gov.uk/weather-health-alerts

Little bit odd though that one government dept (the Met Office) now suddenly doesn't carry any information from another government dept (the UKHSA). Surely the weather reporting service should report on the weather alerts?

I wonder what other weather alerts we're no longer going to be alerted to.

It’s been on the radio news.

I find it odd we have to have hysterics about any kind of weather now

Weather alerts are completely different to health alerts. We’ve had amber (or other colour) health alerts for heat loads of times over the years without the matching weather alert. And we’ve also had amber (or other colour) weather alerts without the health alerts (for storms for example).

They were different last time, DH was organising an event which he cancelled and directed people to the UKHSA for reference as they weren’t Met office alerts so people knew were it came from

It looks like the app now gives you the option to disable them, you can switch it back on?

Here neither.

The night before last was the worst. I am not coping as well as did this time round as i did the other two.

Edit - I am not coping as well this time around as I did the other two.

See, I an barely making sense

@ProudCat this is what my met office app says. Yesterday it showed an amber weather warning because there was a warning in place. Now there isn't.

Probably means one of them has just updated their system and the API isn't linking anymore. Might be possible to reinstate it or redo mapping, but a tech change isn't anything to get hot and bothered about...

This.

Oh dear me.

I'm simply saying something that was there, and it definitely was, is no longer there. There's plenty of evidence showing that other people are questioning why the UKHSA alerts have suddenly disappeared from Met Office site and app.

I mean I could ask the same about why my notifications were going off during the last amber alert a couple of weeks ago (both from the Met Office and the BBC), and yet I've received no notifications for this amber alert. I'm just curious about why there has been this change. The cynic in me thinks that it's likely because it's much easier on businesses if people don't really know what's going on. Personally, I'd find it bothersome if I discovered that the government have deliberately been obfuscating information. I'd want to know why they're doing this. Is there a purpose?

Brilliant, thank you. I've now discovered the answer. The other app (which showed the details exactly as I said it did) has literally just been retired and we've all switched to the refreshed app which shows a different level / category of detail.

Strange how eager some people are to throw themselves into rabbit holes by pretending that something which existed never existed and everyone except them is mad.

I'm still troubled, as someone with H&S responsibility, that it's now more of a fiddle to find the information.

Its more likely that people were mistaking heat health alerts for weather alerts, and therefore spreading misinformation.

Heat health alerts have a different purpose and are aimed at a different audience - if you want them, subscribe to them at source.

Oh, do you have a link? I'm a bit of a nosy cow and this seems potentially entertaining.

Are you a teacher by any chance @ProudCat ? Tbh I don’t know how it works in the UK so it isn’t my business but it does seem like a really hot summer for you there and your schools being open until mid July is late, where I live secondary is finished the end of may and primary the end of June. I can imagine it’s too long to have to teach! Although for working parents here it can be very challenging ( even though I’m also a teacher I can see this).

You can register for email alerts here: https://forms.office.com/pages/responsepage.aspx?id=mRRO7jVKLkutR188-d6GZn06Ss-xPLpCuYeyOZ-eFiFUMEVIMDRTOE5FVzFFM0NXNjFMWUlWMkJVMCQlQCN0PWcu&route=shorturl

Strange how eager some people are to spread conspiracy theories online.

They all get deleted, so no. I find they’re often posted very late, I’ve seen a few past midnight, and they’re always along the lines of ‘canals are only 3 feet deep, but many people drown in them and why do the authorities deny this?’ And always accompanied by photos of random people standing up in a canal, or a screenshot of a news article, but the poster won’t elaborate on any details.

How can the far right keep pushing the narrative of continuing to trash the planet when the cycles of weather that make up climate stubborn refuse to comply ?

Luckily people can be trained to ignore the facts and simply accept what the media tells them.

So "no alerts=no climate crisis"

Could be one way of looking at it ?

After all, this is the country that happily believes all sorts of shit in spite of the facts.

I'm also of the view that agree that there's no conspiracy, but that there have been no weather warnings (as opposed to health warnings) this time as it;s not been quite as hot and there simply hasn't been the disruption this time round that there was at the end of June.

Then there were widespread train cancellations and delays due to the heat and that's not been the case this time.

(I'm in Berkshire and top temperatures forecast this time have been around 32-3 compared with 36-37 at the end of last month.)

😂😂😂

The far right don't configure the Met Office app or website.

People who work at the Met Office have been warning about climate change since the 1980s and have no reason to start hiding the impacts now.

Perhaps because this weather is becoming more commonplace and we all need to find ways of dealing with it, rather than causing constant panic in people by declaring “risk to life” etc

We don't need them! We know when the weather is hot - we can feel it. They are just infantilising, patronising nonsense and if someone has decided to ditch them, it can only be a good thing.

What is the conspiracy though?

The health alerts are aimed at specific audiences, e.g. healthcare staff, to trigger whatever contingencies they're able to put in place. They're not aimed at the general public. That's why the op shouldn't be surprised that she needs to subscribe to them.

So it is most likely because emergency plans kick in from the met office weather forecasts and heat alerts across several sectors (IE homelessness) and there just isn't the capacity for local areas to act correctly so they've been subtly removed...

Wish I was joking