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AIBU to stop a villager using our skip and interrupting builders?

74 replies

Nousernameideaaga · Today 10:10

Having an extension built on our house. Will likely be ongoing until September.
Have a skip outside our house which , when neighbours have asked , we have allowed them to put stuff in our skip. No problem.

A man from elsewhere in the village is working on his own house.

Five times now he was wandered up our garden (long garden) to find our builder and to try and poach him onto his site. He has not asked permission to come into our garden. We are paying our builder on a day rate so each interruption costs us money.

Last night he put a load of waste from his own house (loads of bathroom tiles , a sink and a bath panel) into our skip. Without asking.

Live in a very small village , word of any neighbour dispute quickly makes it round the village.

Do I put up with it for the sake of keeping the peace.

Or do I ask him to leave next time I see him in our garden and ask him to contribute to the cost of the skip?

ETA Builder also lives in the village , is a brilliant builder

YABU Keep the peace

YANBU Kick him out and send a bill

OP posts:
PinkPonyCIub · Today 13:16

@Nousernameideaaga do you think this CF would become violent if you took his stuff back? If not, just take his stuff back and dump it

Anonomoso · Today 13:18

grumpygrape · Today 12:52

I don’t know the law but wouldn’t coming onto your land and putting stuff in the skip be considered Fly-Tipping ? Perhaps a note to the CF to advise him that you have CCTV and let him know the Fly-Tipping laws ?

Agree...

Legally this is fly tipping.

OP make it known that you'll report if anyone dumps their rubbish on your property.

krustykittens · Today 13:22

As someone who moved to a rural area, I would say, set your own boundaries and don't give a flying fuck if they talk about you. They will talk about you anyway and you will always be an outsider, but if you let them walk all over you, they will also have contempt for you. I was terrified to offend at first as well, and I saw some really bad behaviour. Now, no one takes the piss (I did go nuclear) and I am a much happier person with no neighbours causing me stress.

user1471538283 · Today 13:39

I'd knock this on the head now. No one just dumps their own stuff in a skip without asking! But of course if he had and with the amount he had you'd have quite rightly said no.

You need to tell him to not put stuff in your new skip, to not interrupt your builder and to stop trespassing because it upsets your dog. If he then does it you take his stuff back to him and leave it on his door step.

He's spending your money for you!

Wishihadanalgorithm · Today 13:46

I’d put a sign up saying no one else’s rubbish is allowed in the skip. Have a ring camera on it so you can record if anyone is a CF and does this.

I’d send CF villager a bill for the removal of his waste as well.

faithfultoGeorgeMichael · Today 13:49

I'd have put all his rubbish on his front door step but this is why I live in the middle of nowhere instead of a village 😂
We once got a skip and before we put anything in it someone put a huge Xmas tree in it! (mid Jan). DH took it and placed it carefully on their bike rack on their camper van, took a photo and sent it to them😂
Skips cost a fucking fortune!

ReadingInBed88 · Today 13:51

Next time get a covering cloth for the skip as I do think that deters the casual fly tipping

pimplebum · Today 14:01

Easilyforgotten · Today 10:25

You will have to tackle the skip situation as unfortunately he is likely to take silence for consent and will continue/escalate his use of it.

Put a note on new skip “ cctv in use any dumping of waste here will result in charges “

ChirpieCheese · Today 14:02

I wouldn't add a sign to the skip, that might sound like a generous offer to use it OP.

Nousernameideaaga · Today 14:04

PinkPonyCIub · Today 13:16

@Nousernameideaaga do you think this CF would become violent if you took his stuff back? If not, just take his stuff back and dump it

Definitely not. He’s actually a likeable chap and I suspect is blissfully unaware that what he’s doing is not ok

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Francestein · Today 14:09

Call this fool and tell him to either collect his junk or he can pay for half of the cost of the skip.

HGHGHG · Today 14:10

faithfultoGeorgeMichael · Today 13:49

I'd have put all his rubbish on his front door step but this is why I live in the middle of nowhere instead of a village 😂
We once got a skip and before we put anything in it someone put a huge Xmas tree in it! (mid Jan). DH took it and placed it carefully on their bike rack on their camper van, took a photo and sent it to them😂
Skips cost a fucking fortune!

Excellent!! Did they reply to his message 😂?

Trallers · Today 14:19

What about saying to him that you noticed he'd put some of his things in your skip. It's not a problem, but please be sure to check with you in future if he'd like to do similar because a) you need to know what's in there because you're responsible for it, and b) you are generally expecting to need the whole space yourself and don't want to need to hire a second skip because it's been filled up by others. However, you do understand how convenient it can be when a neighbour has a skip and you have a few things to get rid of, so just give you a shout next time and maybe you can split the cost/squeeze some extras in at the end.

He's clearly a pain, but i dont think its worth anything that causes bad blood (even if he deserves it) as you can live with the regrettable after-effects of that for years. Just make sure you say something about it so that a precedent isn't set for using you as a sneaky dumping ground. Undeservedly friendly is the way forward though!

SerendipityJane · Today 14:20

We are paying our builder on a day rate

That's your problem right there. You need a complete job quote and then they can pay for their tea breaks.

(Just make sure you've sanity checked it. I've had a quote of £5,000 for a job that took a day.)

godmum56 · Today 14:20

krustykittens · Today 13:22

As someone who moved to a rural area, I would say, set your own boundaries and don't give a flying fuck if they talk about you. They will talk about you anyway and you will always be an outsider, but if you let them walk all over you, they will also have contempt for you. I was terrified to offend at first as well, and I saw some really bad behaviour. Now, no one takes the piss (I did go nuclear) and I am a much happier person with no neighbours causing me stress.

totally agree.

godmum56 · Today 14:21

Nousernameideaaga · Today 14:04

Definitely not. He’s actually a likeable chap and I suspect is blissfully unaware that what he’s doing is not ok

oh I very much doubt that. Wide eyed blissful unawareness is straight out of the CF playbook.

Moreholidaysthanjudithchalmers · Today 14:25

No nip in bud. I’d speak to him today. I think I’d go over with the invoice in my hand and say there was an issue when the skip was picked up this morning as there was a load of extra stuff in it not ours like a sink, panel and tiles. This is the bill - do you want to chip in. In future if you want to use our skip you need to ask not just chuck stuff in. Dave the builder is on a day rate if you need to book him these are his details. Tell builder you’ve spoken to bloke.

ForeverNowWithin · Today 14:28

Why on earth would you allow the other neighbour to put stuff on your skip? If you are having an extension that still has 2 months of work to go, you could end up paying several times over for that skip to be emptied. People don't seem to understand that using someone else's skip isn't free just because it's there. Someone had to pay for it and if it gets filled before you've finished then you'll have to pay for it again.

The answer, if asked, should have been 'keep hold of your bits for now and we will see how we are for space at the end. I might have to fill it to the brim myself yet. But if there is still some room in it when we've finished then of course you can put your stuff in.'

AnonyMumAuDHD · Today 14:28

If you know where your neighbour lives I’d drop him a note: ‘we note that you used our skip to dispose of your rubbish, without having the courtesy to ask permission. Do not do so again as we will invoice you. Additionally, please accept this as notice that you do NOT have permission to come onto our property. Should you wish to speak to the builder and his team, please contact them by phone or email. Thank you for your cooperation.’

Nousernameideaaga · Today 14:34

SerendipityJane · Today 14:20

We are paying our builder on a day rate

That's your problem right there. You need a complete job quote and then they can pay for their tea breaks.

(Just make sure you've sanity checked it. I've had a quote of £5,000 for a job that took a day.)

No we are really really happy with our builder and the cost. He works unbelievably hard and knows we are on a tight schedule. He has 15 minute lunch break and the only other interruptions have been CF neighbour.

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Rightsraptor · Today 14:36

He's stealing from you when he puts his rubbish in your skip without your consent. Skips cost a lot of money to hire as lots of us know well, and if it gets filled by other people it means you can't put you stuff in it and so you have to order a new one, costing you more money. So - his dumping stuff means you pay more. This is not ok.

What to do in a small village isn't so easy if you don't want lifelong enemies. A polite, quiet and friendly word would seem the thing to do first off.

Nousernameideaaga · Today 14:38

Thanks everybody . I’m going to have a polite word with him this evening

Feel vindicated seeing the poll result ☺️

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Pinkchickenwine · Today 14:38

Easilyforgotten · Today 10:25

You will have to tackle the skip situation as unfortunately he is likely to take silence for consent and will continue/escalate his use of it.

Yes

Momlife86 · Today 14:39

Since it’s a small village like you said, I’d bet that cheeky dumper was chatty locally to someone about his own work getting done and how he needs a skip and someone that used your skip said ‘ah you know Sheila down the road let us use her skip, yeh got rid of loads of stuff we did’.
Leaving out the fact they asked you & next thing you know, Sheila’s skip is a free for all.

In terms of him stopping your builder, I also think the onus is on the builder as well. ‘Sorry don’t have time to chat, give me your number and I’ll pop down to discuss job when I’m off work’ - he can’t be allowing every Tom, Dick & Harry stop him when he’s on someone else’s clock.

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