To think fouls should only be fouls if they’re on purpose?

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Watching the World Cup and it seems very harsh to be getting yellow and red cards and penalties given for fouls which are accidental, doesn’t it?

How would you determine intent though?

What’s deliberate and what’s accidental could be open to interpretation. Better to have straightforward rules.

Who would determine intention and how?

But these are trained players. They are not four year olds who have no spatial awareness. If they are in the way of the other players it's rather like someone who has driven down the middle of a road, blocking off the oncoming traffic. Yes, they didn't do it on purpose but they should have looked ahead, planned and not got in the way.

With the caveat that I do not watch football…

If they switched to only deliberate fouls, wouldn’t that encourage more dangerous playing/tackles/tactics that would lead to things that are technically accidental but dangerous nonetheless. Penalising accidents forces an element of caution?

Plus it’s more subjective - it’s hard to judge what is and isn’t an accident sometimes.

OP, is your perspective that of someone who doesn't normally follow football?

There's a grey area where a foul is unintentional but still could be dangerous. I would say that Quansah's falls into this category. It's to protect the players from injury.

Yes!

Have you not watched football before? It's a combination of supposedly fit and strong men falling over blades of grass to roll around as though they've just stood on a landmine and others claimed they never done nuffink, it's all a fit up and they never meant to hurt him, it was an accident, honest, when there are stud prints all over the player they just took out in front of x million viewers.

Thought so.

That explains it🤣

Many technically accidental fouls are caused by misjudgement and sometimes recklessness. The player on the receiving end can have their career ended by injury whether it was intentional or not. Penalising encourages caution and protects player safety.

Nope. It’s their job to make sure they don’t break the rules.

There is a school of thought that says that anything that happens on a football pitch is intentional certainly in the world cup and premier league.

You can’t prove intent though. All fouls should be accidental really

This may make you smile.

www.reddit.com/r/bicycling/comments/2g0sbv/bicyclist_vs_football_players/

the problem is they would all use different tatics and strategies to win

Hi Donald! Great point. Really, really great point. The greatest point about football ever. You could make football great again.

If you mean the studs up foul from England, that’s been a rule for many years and footballers are trained from an early age how to avoid it. He was an idiot.

And a dangerous driving charge should only be if the intent was malicious too, I suppose?

Fouls without intent are fouls because the player did something dangerous.

You could ask them 😂

This is like saying that we shouldn't be punished if our careless driving causes us to knock over a pedestrian.

Sometimes intent is less relevant than outcome, especially in situations where we have to be adequately trained and knowledgeable just to be on the pitch/get in the driver's seat..

By that argument if I was defending and walked backward into a player about to score it wouldn't be a foul...but i could have intentionally have do everything that. Plus 95% of fouls are accidentally done...I go to kick the ball like Kane did and another player gets there faster, like the Mexican did...its a foul

What about fouls due to reckless behaviour OP? I.e., not technically deliberate, but could have feasibly been predicted by the perpetrator to cause harm.

This a gateway to a great discussion on legal theory! 😄