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Financial hit of jury service

166 replies

Pheasantsfeather · Yesterday 18:29

I've just been summoned for jury service. Checked the terms and conditions and our company will grant special leave to attend but you are unpaid. You can claim £64 per day back in expenses. My take home per day is three times that.

I am fully supportive of why I need to do it, but I can't believe I'm expected to take such a financial hit. If it were to go on for the full 10 days, I will be over £1000 out of pocket. I can't afford that, we have nursery and holiday club fees for 3x children and a mortgage to pay.

How can you be duty bound to do something that costs you so much in lost earnings?

OP posts:
JuniperKeats · Today 18:06

Find a reason to refuse. I cited hip pain, u able to sit for long periods while waiting for hip replacement. Mostly true, esp the latter.
accepted without query

MaeveK · Today 18:07

My husband was excused because we couldn’t afford for him to do it (I was on maternity leave and his work wouldn’t make up the difference). He hasn’t been asked since and that was 10 years ago.

MMUmum · Today 18:10

DameOfThrones · Yesterday 18:31

Be careful OP.

My DH got put on a case that lasted 3 months!

Luckily his firm payed him his full wage though.

Yes, I remember the Maxeell brothers trial, went on for months 😕

Enigma54 · Today 18:18

I’ve just been summoned also. I’m on gruelling cancer treatment and am now unwell with Heart failure from chemo! I’ve asked to be excused!

FFSItsTooHot · Today 18:25

I agree with you. I think it's ridiculous that people are expected to lose considerable amounts of money for taking time off work,to do their duty! If the powers that be didn't want people to say they can't do it then maybe they should try offering them adequate compensation for their lost wages.

Greeeg · Today 18:38

I agreed to do it back in April and then asked to be excused a few weeks before the start date and they accepted.
Didn't have to give dates that I could do in the future either. I think I got lucky.
I was all up for it at first then realised the massive impact it would have with my work, toddler & money, I just couldn't commit.

Manteiga · Today 18:51

ToffeeCrabApple · Today 08:24

For context, to receive £129 a day net you need a salary over £40k.

Add in the value of the childcare, travel and meals expenses and for most people on up to about £60k you should not be too out of pocket.

They make up earnings nett of income tax and N.I. contributions, so you'd reach the £129 cap at about £43k - £44k (assuming the standard personal allowance). But extra childcare expenses aren't paid on top; the cap is on loss of earnings plus extra childcare expenses. Even without having to fork out more for childcare, you'd still be £650 out of pocket for the 10 days £65 cap was applied.

oncemoreuntothebeachdearfriends · Today 18:52

I've been called 3 times, & cited childcare issues.
The real reason was the financial loss.
It was granted, no checks were made, & the last time DS was c.15.

19lottie82 · Today 19:06

To everyone saying employers should pay, why them and not the government? It could be crippling for a small business.

1985goingbackagain · Today 19:11

MMUmum · Today 18:10

Yes, I remember the Maxeell brothers trial, went on for months 😕

The usher on my case said the longest one she’d seen was just short of 3 years - summing up took over 3 months 🤯. The trial I was on was 10 days (sa of a child under 13) and that was plenty long enough for me even though I’d been really keen to do jury service. It was a really interesting experience though (and my employer paid the extra above the court allowance)

Manteiga · Today 19:18

19lottie82 · Today 19:06

To everyone saying employers should pay, why them and not the government? It could be crippling for a small business.

Or how about employers have to administrate opt-out insurance, rather like pensions?

19lottie82 · Today 19:27

Manteiga · Today 19:18

Or how about employers have to administrate opt-out insurance, rather like pensions?

Is that a thing?

RoseOliviaAu · Today 19:28

mnareshatrantee · Today 08:01

I’m surprised they’d even talk to you about it tbh.

I just used his email account.

Pinkflamingo10 · Today 19:31

Say you cannot afford it, you wouldn’t be able to pay your mortgage etc this is a valid excusal reason.

Lampzade · Today 19:45

My dsis was summoned for jury duty . She read the letter but didn’t bother replying
She believed that if she replied she would have to think of a good excuse to avoid jury duty and she didn’t think that financial loss implications would be accepted

TY78910 · Today 19:47

HerLadySheep · Yesterday 18:49

The problem with this is the only people who can afford to be on a jury are the retired, the unemployed and public sector workers, it’s meant to be a “jury of your peers” and in reality a jury can be totally unrepresentative of the population

That’s not entirely true. I am none of those things, my employer paid my two weeks in full. Most of my jury were people who had interesting jobs. In fact two were retired and one had a living wage job. The case did over run slightly though and so I claimed loss of earnings for three days I believe.

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