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Childminder closing due to heat..

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doneitagain12 · Yesterday 09:30

Hello!

I live in the south west, our summers for the last couple of years have definitely warmed up compared to say 10 years ago.

I returned to work 3 days a week - DS is with a childminder on 2 of those days, family the 3rd day.
Since the warm weather arriving, I’ve had to leave work early to pick up DS from the childminder on these two days, she’s now introduced a Heat Policy and is now saying if it gets to 28 it’ll be half day pick ups (12.30pm latest)
We haven’t got family nearby who are on hand to collect him for us while we’re at work, as those that are, are also working. so it’s meaning having to keep leaving work early. My husband works a fair distance away, so it’s usually me collecting/leaving early. And I don’t work in a job where I can leave without causing quite big disruption to other colleagues and work.

The childminder has no air con in place, her garden shelter is basically sheets she’s thrown over a wood pagola, and has one tower fan which does nothing and keeps the kids mostly in the play room which is a conservatory.
she’s also claiming she has health issues and the heat affect these…

before anyone suggests it - we are leaving. There have been some other issues that have factored into this decision but, given our summers are hotter now and we actually get longer than a week of sunshine! It just isn’t sustainable.
But I haven’t been able to get him into his new placement until September as of course most reputable places are now full until then.

But is this normal??

OP posts:
Larrythecatforpm · Today 07:10

doneitagain12 · Today 07:07

What’s a CF? X

Means cheeky fucker. I would honestly deduct any time she closes for the heat off what you pay and just say it’s unreasonable to close in normal summer temperatures.

doneitagain12 · Today 07:16

JulietteHasAGun · Today 06:41

If she hasn’t got the energy to be a childminder she needs to quit. Not scam people by taking their money and not providing a service. What would happen if a parent was a nurse or teacher and couldn’t leave work to pick their kid up because her ridiculous rule? If you owe any money after your last day I would deduct any money for days she’s been shut and tell her to take me to court.

I completely agree - she keeps mentioning health issues. Which, to some extent, I sympathise despite not having a clue what those health issues are. But when your in a job that is crucial to enabling parents to continue to work, and your not able to fulfil that service, then do the honourable thing and step down.
Don’t keep making excuses and putting parents in really difficult predicaments.
She also contracted 30 days notice to leave, which I presume is so she can herself find a replacement to cover the loss.
Yet herself will only give 24 hours notice if she’s closing. She also always bills a month in advance, so it’s really difficult to keep track of what you’ve been billed for previously and what she owes back etc.

OP posts:
doneitagain12 · Today 07:18

Larrythecatforpm · Today 07:10

Means cheeky fucker. I would honestly deduct any time she closes for the heat off what you pay and just say it’s unreasonable to close in normal summer temperatures.

Haha - then I agree!
And the difficulty with that is, most of my hours are funded hours. Which I can’t see or know if she’s still claiming despite closing. But I highly highly suspect she is still claiming those hours and being paid despite closing! Probably why she’s being such a flip flop with it all - she doesn’t loose out!!

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Settlersa · Today 07:19

So is she closing this week as well because its going to be hotter again

Larrythecatforpm · Today 07:20

doneitagain12 · Today 07:18

Haha - then I agree!
And the difficulty with that is, most of my hours are funded hours. Which I can’t see or know if she’s still claiming despite closing. But I highly highly suspect she is still claiming those hours and being paid despite closing! Probably why she’s being such a flip flop with it all - she doesn’t loose out!!

Ask her outright. “If your closing due to the normal temperature are you still claiming for the funded hours? Just want to make sure I know what’s going on.” No harm in asking, you are allowed.

I would leave her a bad review when you leave in september.

doneitagain12 · Today 07:21

Settlersa · Today 07:19

So is she closing this week as well because its going to be hotter again

She sent the ‘heat policy’ out ahead of this week because Im assuming that’s exactly what she’s planning to do!!
I’m awaiting the message to confirm…. But have zero doubt it’s in the drafts ready to be sent.

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Blondeshavemorefun · Today 07:22

doneitagain12 · Yesterday 10:34

So the days I had to collect him early the week we had the first heatwave, I got billed for. That week we reached 31 max.
I questioned it, she gave me £5 refund. (Most my childcare is funded under the new funded hours scheme for working parents). But I have to pay a £1 per hour top up, plus lunches. What bothers me - is I know she’ll still be claiming that funding despite closing early. Where as I’m losing money left right and centre! Also, credibility in my workplace as I’m also becoming unreliable, after just having a year off maternity… it doesn’t look great!

I agree, I don’t think 28 is particularly hot - not now anyway! If it was 35+ like London etc, I’d get it. But to see she’s put zero precautions in place despite one basically useless tower fan - has bothered me.

Also, being a childminder, I figured she had the option to take the kids out - to a soft play with air con?? Woods?? Etc etc. I very much get the impression it isn’t really about the kids - but rather herself.

I know of one other mum who I’m friendly with who has also just given notice. Because she can’t handle the unreliability of it all.

She is a total CF !!!

she isn’t providing a service so should refund

I get 99% is funded and maybe query about the funding being paid

she will be losing many clients

does she know you are leaving in Sept

doneitagain12 · Today 07:26

Blondeshavemorefun · Today 07:22

She is a total CF !!!

she isn’t providing a service so should refund

I get 99% is funded and maybe query about the funding being paid

she will be losing many clients

does she know you are leaving in Sept

Not yet - I’m giving notice in August. I didn’t want to do it ahead of the 30 days incase she gets a bee in her bonnet and says we’ll need to be out by xyz and be left with zero childcare options until he can start his new place in September!

And yeah I think I will in regards to the funding when I get my next bill!

OP posts:
doneitagain12 · Today 07:28

Larrythecatforpm · Today 07:20

Ask her outright. “If your closing due to the normal temperature are you still claiming for the funded hours? Just want to make sure I know what’s going on.” No harm in asking, you are allowed.

I would leave her a bad review when you leave in september.

I think I will do that when I get my bill at the end of this month!

And I will be!! A lot of childminders are word of mouth recommended around here!! I can’t see she’ll be getting recommended much anymore!!

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Ethelspagetti · Today 08:00

That’s not normal at all. I took my youngest to nursery and they never closed down due to the heat. They set up multiple fans and arranged water play. How can she still charge for being closed to the heat?! That’s crazy! I can see everyone leaving in September!

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