AIBU to refuse a Year 9 staying up for the 1am match?

[BlackTulipss]

Is this unreasonable?
Apparently "every other mum" is letting their school year 9 kid watch the 1am match tonight and phone in sick to school tomorrow morning then go in at lunch.
I've said no to staying up to watch it. Starts at 1am, it will go on till 3:30am, or later if extra time!
DS has to get up at 6:30 for school.
DH says let him, keeps going on about once every 4 years experience, it's only 1 night, etc. And he says it will be the final England match - they'll be knocked out by Mexico tonight so there will be no other England games to watch after tonight.
DS badly needs his sleep and at 14 he still needs a solid 11 hours to function.
Is anyone else letting their DC watch it live tonight?
AIBU?

Get a nap in before then leave it up to him to get up for it. Our first Scotland match was 2am it was a Sunday morning but I went for a sleep. My DD stayed up, she fell asleep after the second half though 😂 I watched it and went back to sleep. It’s once every 4 years as others have said. Just make it clear if he wants to watch he still needs to get up and got school next day. X

If you don't let him - first, he probably won't sleep properly anyway, and second, he'll never forget what you did. Do you really want to create resentment and a bad memory he'll still recall 20 years from now? As a PP said, tell him he has to go to bed very early and you'll wake him up for the match. He's old enough to understand that he'll feel awful at school if he gets no sleep at all.

Then he goes to school at the normal time.

It's all part of the pseudo babble that's replacing plain English, what's wrong with 'memory', where else do you keep them?

It’s not funny. It’s a serious matter. A 14 year old who sleeps 10 hours or more a night might (might) have an underlying health need. They might just be a very sleepy person - but it’s worth looking at isn’t it?

At 14 mine were trusted to decide when they needed to go to sleep, but they were required to be at school on time regardless. Never have had an issue with them, my youngest who is ND started full time work at 16 starting at 830 and if he stays up late/is tired he'll compensate the following night.

Rules would be stay up if he wants but into school normal time regardless at 14.

I would let primary age kids stay up also but would keep them off a bit later the following day.

My eldest son (20) has planned it well, he has to leave for work at 8am tomorrow so set his alarm for 6am this morning so hes extra tired tonight and will go to sleep for a few hours before the football 😂

‘Core memory’ is a quote from Pixar’s Inside Out I reckon!

And? I mean, I'll always remember staying up to watch Torvill and Dean get the sixes for Bolero, but if I hadn't seen it I wouldn't need therapy because I'd missed it or anything. It would just be a memory I didn't have.

I mean, I'd have remembered going to Disney as a child for the rest of my life if it had happened, but since it didn't, I don't. I have other memories. Missing ONE thing that I would certainly get the chance to see later in life might be a big deal at the time, but so are a lot of things when you are a kid. And none of us get to do all our 'big deal' things, do we?

I can't believe the lack of perspective over this. It's not even the final, it's not an event that will never happen again. I expect the kids to think it's the be all and end all because kids don't have that perspective, but the adults claiming this is so important that denying your child the chance to see it is some terrible thing is bizarre.

Would tell him to go to bed early-ish, wake up, watch it, go to bed, wake up at normal time and go to school at a normal time.

My two boys are Year 3 and Year 7 and I’m letting them watch it.

They are having a sleepover together in the living room and they can’t wait!

They’ll be going to bed at 9pm and setting an alarm for 1am.

I imagine that as they’ll be watching it whilst lying down under their duvets they’ll probably fall asleep at some point during the game but I would never stop them from watching it.

If they so stay awake for the duration then they’ll get a few more hours sleep in before getting up again ready for school.

Yes they will be shattered at school but it’s just one day and they can catch up on their sleep tomorrow night.

He's 14!! Not 4. If he is so keen to watch it, let him.. YABVU.

Out primary school does a weekly newsletter and the headteacher said "if you choose to enjoy the football on Sunday, see you at the normal time on Monday!". Which I think is clear that they expect many tired children - but they expect the children to turn up on time. I'd let him stay up as long as knows the deal is he has to go to school as normal.

I'd let him watch it but he'd be getting up for school at the normal time.

It's a perfect life lesson, if you want something there is often a price to pay, in this case the price for watching the match is going to school at the usual time. I'm sure that schools will be expecting a lot of sleepy pupils (and staff) as well as a lot of euphoria/sadness, they'll all cope! Many youngsters go off to residentials or camping and I know to my cost that they don't sleep all night yet are bright as buttons the next morning, much to the annoyance of staff/other adults!
So many undeestimate youngsters!

Its absolutely ok to ask what other people think or what other people do. Thats literally what an internet forum is for.

It’s a one off, let him stay up.

We let ours (7-13yo) stay up for the Scotland match on a school night until 1am. Obviously and sadly this was not really worth it 😭🤣 but hopefully it’s a nice memory in future, their cousins and uncle and aunties stayed over. The 7yo gave up and went to bed at 12:30am, everyone else in bed asleep by 1:30am.

I managed to get up for work the next day no problem. DH took the littles into school for 9:30am and the big one was in academy by 10am. No issues.

Dc not watching the football but when they wanted to watch a 2am basketball game they went to bed a little earlier than usual, woke and watched the match, quick nap then up for school at the usual time. The latter was non-negotiable.

So with something like that in place I'd let dc watch if they really wanted to. Getting up ok but staying up would be a no.

Free reign? Is he the King?

Let him stay up to watch, it's only one night, won't kill him to have less sleep for once.

He’s 14!

he’ll remember this forever.
get him to have a sleep maybe 10 til 12.30 then get up , watch it and go back for an hour or two. He will survive!!

I agree. I remember being allowed to stay up to watch Scotland in 1978… and I am English.
He won’t be the only tired kid tomorrow and a few of the teachers will be as well.
It is near the end of term as well.

Not when the 14 year old concerned wakes up every morning full of the joys of spring, has a massive smile on their face when saying good morning, chats away about looking forward to their day ahead, sings along to R1 in their morning shower, leaves for school on time every single day without any delays, comes home from school saying they've had a great day and chats about what happened during their day, happily goes off to their different sports clubs after school Mondays, Tuesdays, Wednesdays, without fail, never too tired to go, goes to the gym with friends to exercise regularly, goes jogging with his DF and loves it, and goes on 4 hour mountain bike rides cross country at weekends returning full of vitality and enthusiasm, swims every week, is always in a happy mood, loves life, laughs throughout every day, eats a very healthy diet with a hearty appetite, plays music, makes music, has masses of interests and hobbies and is brimming with energy for all the above.....but needs 10 hours sleep and wakes feeling great after sleeping like a log......no. I don't think it's 'worth looking at'.
I think any GP would ask me why I had booked an appointment for him once they'd taken a full history.
Why are you medicalising a healthy teenager who is needing 10 hours of sleep?
Why are you projecting your health anxiety on to us?
''A serious matter''😂

All I'm saying is I have three "bouncy at the best of times" classes of year ten boys tomorrow. Add football and end of year-it-is and it's going to be INTERESTING.

Will probably get a learning walk and told it's my fault their heads are on the desk.

(Sob)

This will be a huge childhood memory for him. Let him stay up. This is a big deal to him. You don’t need to “understand”. You just need to make it a special event for him.

I would let him stay up. It’s a one-off.

There is a tiny weeny possibility that you’ve taken this a bit personally ……

No, I haven't. I've got some nutter telling me it's a serious matter and needs looking in to that a teenager needs 10 hours sleep a night.