AIBU to agree with Kemi Badenoch’s comments about women?

[KateSixer]

Hopefully I am not being unreasonable to post a link to this Facebook post by Kemi Badenoch.

Whether you agree with her on politics generally or not it is surely hard to disagree with what she says here about women:

https://www.facebook.com/share/19BmVWbtsH/

There is a valid point about Labour never having had a woman as leader, or indeed get more votes in a leadership election than a man. The trade union movement continued using the phrase 'brothers' for far too long, as well.

However, Kemi Badenoch was prepared to serve in a government led by a man who in his personal life has treated women disgracefully and would not even acknowledge all of his own children until the courts forced him to.

I don't think you can argue with the fact that the Labour party has really struggled with having women or racial minorities in leadership, compared to the Tories.

Maybe at one time it could have been brushed off as chance, but I don't think that will wash any more. The approach the Labour Party has taken doesn't seem to work. That throws a lot of doubt on their approach to identity issues in general. And I also think they really need to shut up about the moral high ground BS they think they have on these issues because they really don't have the moral high ground.

I mean, Clinton considered "because it's her turn" as one of her election slogans, and the idea that it was time for a woman to win was something she brought up a lot in political speeches.

They somewhat backed away from that with Harris, having learned how much it turned people off. But you still had things like Obama accusing a group of black men for not wanting to vote "for a sister" who they needed to support because she was a black.

It was absolutely an undercurrent for both DND really not a great look in either case.

Totally agree. I am a huge Kemi fan. She is a fantastic role model for the black community.

I think the clearest minded people tend to have the best policies.

They tend to have thought things through.

The left seems to me to be characterised to some degree by insufficiently robust intellectual analysis of the consequences of their proposals and a desire to legislate on niche issues to placate niche elements in their supporters.

The Starmer government does however have the largest number of women in history, it is the most gender balanced.

As well as state educated cabinet ministers

Badenoch was in government which she seems to have forgotten.

I disagree with her politics and most of what she says, and I do think quotas and EDI initiatives have a place and are necessary. I do agree with the line about how wrong and annoying it is to describe certain traits as male, though, like ambition, drive or assertiveness. Personality traits are not inherently gendered, that’s patriarchal nonsense. There are ambitious, cut-throat and assertive men and women just as there are meek, soft and caring men and women.

Yep

Yes but isn't this Kemi's point? Women can be good at a job, equally women can be bad at a job.

They are not good or bad because they are women.

We simply want the best person to do the job regardless of gender, race etc!
That is what meritocracy is all about. Getting the best.

Are you suggesting we should be rolling back workplace protections for women? Do you know how bad things used to be before workplace equality?

I can't believe how prepared some people are to throw away hard-earned rights due to the terror of somebody else getting something they don't qualify for.

How can you possibly draw this conclusion from what I said?!

Of course I am not suggesting that.

Literally nothing I have said points to that.

Kemi wants to roll back maternity rights.

Kemi wants to scrap the ECHR and PSED, that is not good news for women's rights and protections.

That's quite a leap!

She’s the only politician I’d vote for. There’s not one other across any of the parties that I’d vote for.

You live in her constituency?

I’ve never voted conservative and I really like Kemi. She is always bang on. She’s the only one I think that speaks any sense.