To block GBNews from my parent’s TV?

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My parents retired 4 years ago. They’re both in their 60s, healthy, happy, comfortable financially.

Since they’ve retired they have been sucked in by every single thing they say on there. They can spend an entire day sat in front of the TV getting angrier and angrier. It’s to the point that if Starmer comes on the TV, they shout about how he should be killed.

it’s genuinely starting to concern me. You can’t have a rational conversation with them about anything. I miss my parents, how they used to be before all the conspiracy and anger took over.

I’m genuinely tempted to block it from their tv using parental controls and just pretending it’s some weird fault in their telly. They’d not be able to fix it.

Yes, the bit that confuses me is that if immigrants are keen to move here and adopt our country as their own, why are English flags ‘unwelcoming’?

When this is raised people often say ‘oh but it’s being done in a racist way’, or ‘it’s being done to send a racist message’. But as the people who parrot these phrases report, the only way to discern that appears to be to follow the niche pages on Facebook where some racist comments are made. Why would immigrants be following these pages on Facebook?

Surely if they wanted to become a proud citizen and defend our country they’d be pleased to see our flags?

This is like organisations removing ‘woman’ from essential female based comms so as not to upset trans identifying men.

It is a ludicrous and divisive situation if English people are told we can’t fly the English flag so in England as not to cause some undefined and theoretical upset to foreign people.

Say something anti Farage and you get ten quotes in quick succession on this site. Funny that.

Yet here you are.

Yeah I've heard some whoppers over the years from lefties. GBeebies, Brexshit, Jeremy C(H)unt, Tony BLiar, Pig Shagger, Granny Killer (anyone who didn't want to be told to indefinitely shut their business and stay in their home).

They get their comrades clapping like seals with those. Lame.

You've equated watching GBN with drug addiction? 😆 🤣 😂

Honestly, do you actually think you’re watching a proper news channel? If it entertained you fair enough but its filled with misinformation and conclusions that just do not make sense.

Same could be said of any rolling news channel. Sky, bbc. There's only so much 'news' to announce so they all end more like chat shows.

But there's also a certain irony in the fact that you can find threads in the FWR section about the negative effects of trans ideology on young people especially the narrative that they are under attack all the time and the ramping up of fear/anger against anyone not in the ingroup. Eg the use of statistics about the murder rate of trans sex workers in South America to make teenagers in the UK feel unsafe. The dishonest tuse of statistics. In particular the constant bandying about if suicide statistics is unbelievably unhelpful. As is the encouragement to spend more time online/with like-minded people which can isolate people more and lead to them being less in touch with reality etc. the constant victim hood narrative.

This reads like you are suggesting the women of FWR are using these talking points whereas it is these exact lies and disinformation that we have been fighting against from the trans activists for years who use them to manipulate the vulnerable into thinking they are ‘trans’ and being persecuted.

I hope that is inadvertent in your part?

Absolutely embarrassing behaviour. I'm hiding this thread now. It's turning my mind to mush x

No, not just for you, sorry. I change every day because I know people who love to find each other here ;-)

Yeah my parents are a bit older, but the same. It’s fucking dreadful and our relationship’s really suffered as a consequence.

You need to read the OPs original post. The subject of the thread is not about airing your hatred for a certain age group although it's been shoehorned in along the way by some who would like to do away with a certain section of society.The OP doesn't hate her parents. She's concerned about what they view on their TV. Maybe start a thread about your bigotry against boomers.

Funnily enough the government seem to be quite reticent about publishing the statistics on this, you’d think that if they were low fir violent crimes among migrant men, they’d publish them and remove many concerns people have. Think about the that don’t.

Other, more honest European countries have found that migrant men from certain countries like Somalia and Afghanistan far outstrip local men in their crime rates. If you do a quick internet search on ‘asylum seeker, rape, convicted’ it comes up with a worryingly long list.

There is some data published by the Metropolitan police that out of at total of 7677 gang rape arrests between 2010-2018, only 17.5% of the rape gang suspects originate from the UK. I did a quick search a while ago and came up with several horrendous gang rapes perpetrated by asylum seekers or settled males of foreign origin.

It’s not racist to look at the facts.

Re trans identifying males (aka ‘transwomen’) Ministry of Justice data shows the rate of sex offenders per head is higher than the normal male population. Trans activists themselves advocate and teach men how to breach the ‘cotton ceiling’ (women’s knickers) which in itself is pretty rapey.

www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/gangrapestatistics

https://sex-matters.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/04/Evidence-and-data-on-transwomens-offending-rates.pdf

You keep claiming that having well founded concerns and wanting open conversations about the impacts of large scale immigration on our country is ‘radicalised’ but I think you are the one taking the radical position.

You are proving that you have no argument to defend your position by your increasing use of insults.

I'd do it it, tbh. In this instance it's looking out for your parents' wellbeing. Nothing wrong with limiting the spread of lies and misinformation.

'For their own good'

For those supportive of forcibly and clandestinely restricting media access for adults 'for their own good', which other media sources should be restricted, banned or prescribed?

Who writes this list?

Can anyone actually say what "lies and misinformation" they have seen on GB News? I mean specifically. Told in bad faith, lies and misinformation knowingly broadcast. Not information that turned out to be inaccurate, or opinions that you may not agree with.

It seems to me that words Lies and Misinformation are being used to mean perspectives, analysis and opinions that you don't agree with.

I agree with your point.

I looked it up and you’re right, he referred to ‘disgusting Nazi fascists’ but in the context of the rally and the people he was talking to, he appeared to be meaning ‘everyone who doesn’t agree with his and the Pro Palestine (which for many is includes pro Hamas/islamist rule) views’.

The Labour Party has suspended a councillor who made violent calls to stab fascists at an anti-racist rally in East London on Wednesday.
Councillor Ricky Jones told a large crowd at an anti-fascist, anti-racist rally in Walthamstow that the “disgusting nasty fascists” should be attacked.
“We need to cut all their throats and get rid of them”, Jones said into a microphone to a cheering crowd, before leading a “free Palestine” chant.

Can you give us some examples please?

Thanks for sharing the links. I wanted to look into the data you mentioned properly because it's important to get the full picture, but when you dig into the actual official sources, those specific figures are highly misleading.
With the Met Police gang rape statistic from that FOI request, it’s tracking arrested suspects, not convictions. More importantly, it suffers from a massive data recording gap. When police log arrests, 'Nationality' or 'Origin' is left blank or marked as 'Unknown' in the vast majority of cases unless a passport is physically present at booking. You can't assume everyone without a definitively logged UK origin is a foreign national—it completely breaks the math. According to the ONS, the overwhelming majority of sexual violence in the UK is committed by single perpetrators, and the demographics of convicted offenders broadly mirror the general UK population.
As for the Ministry of Justice data on trans women, the claim about a 'higher rate per head' is a well-known statistical distortion caused by a tiny sample size. There are typically only between 100 to 170 trans women in the entire prison estate of England and Wales (out of over 85,000 prisoners). When a total group is that incredibly small, a handful of individuals completely skews the percentage. On top of that, the MoJ's own data shows that the vast majority of these individuals committed their offenses and were convicted before they ever transitioned or identified as trans.
The 'cotton ceiling' phrase was coined by a tiny group of individual bloggers over a decade ago during online debates about dating preferences. It is completely rejected by mainstream LGBT+ charities and groups, and it absolutely isn't being taught or advocated by mainstream activists to breach consent.
It isn't radical to want to protect women—obviously, we all want that. But basing that protection on selective, flawed data doesn't actually help us address the root causes of violence against women, which remains a deeply entrenched issue across every single demographic.
Honestly, I feel like focusing so much energy on a tiny fraction of the population distracts from the massive, structural issues feminism actually needs to be fighting right now. We have a collapsing childcare system, huge gaps in maternal healthcare, widespread workplace discrimination, and the fact that domestic abuse and violence against women by ordinary cis men are at horrific levels with dismal conviction rates. That is where our focus and anger should be going, rather than letting culture wars divide us

This was my thought tbh.

*proscribed, obvs. Autocorrected.

This is self justification, when we know something is morally wrong but consider we are nonetheless justified in acting.

No

My point is that most posters on FWR can see that those talking points when absorbed uncritically and without balance can be unhealthy for the people consuming them. Particularly young people. And can have a clear eyed discussion on the issues and critique this. Of course, there are always some ploppers on FWR who are very triggered by this analysis and either try to deny it is happening or use overly emotive language to imply the GC posters are being bigoted or uncaring.

GB news is the same shit in a different bottle.