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AIBU to ask why the heinous crimes of the Raise the Colours leaders aren't being widely reported?

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Firetreev · 01/07/2026 23:17

Aibu to ask why the media isn't reporting on this more? Why aren't we hearing that two of the leading figures in the Raise the Colours movement are literal paedophiles and murderers?

It highlights what any decent person knows, that bigots and racists are nasty, odious human beings. But why isn't it being reported more widely?

https://www.google.com/amp/s/metro.co.uk/2026/05/28/raise-colours-founder-billy-allison-charged-murder-bar-owner-28555599/amp/

https://www.oxfordmail.co.uk/news/26240871.raise-colours-figure-accused-making-indecent-child-images/?fbclid=IwdGRleASxnMlleHRuA2FlbQIxMQBzcnRjBmFwcF9pZAo2NjI4NTY4Mzc5AAEeD-iv3oLlEN-8ZzSCZXP7KQKTssodUYYzeuSXcu0WgsnHnF1vgK4JP95PpVY_aem_lsM0RkERvEqDn7nBdCGmow

Raise the Colours Oxfordshire leader to stand trial over 'indecent child images'

A leading figure in the Oxfordshire's Raise the Colours movement is due to stand trial accused of making indecent child images.

https://www.oxfordmail.co.uk/news/26240871.raise-colours-figure-accused-making-indecent-child-images/?fbclid=IwdGRleASxnMlleHRuA2FlbQIxMQBzcnRjBmFwcF9pZAo2NjI4NTY4Mzc5AAEeD-iv3oLlEN-8ZzSCZXP7KQKTssodUYYzeuSXcu0WgsnHnF1vgK4JP95PpVY_aem_lsM0RkERvEqDn7nBdCGmow

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EmeraldShamrock000 · 02/07/2026 01:57

19lottie82 · 02/07/2026 00:07

An immigrant tried to decapitated a man and people were out protesting in the streets and assaulting innocent people.

a white man decapitated his girlfriend in Scotland last year, and I hadn’t even heard about it until after the former.

surely you must see a double standard here? Why do you think that is?

Absolutely disturbing in both cases, but can you not see the difference.
We can avoid a volatile partner by not dating him, ensure we look out for red flags. I have no doubt that this chap was violent towards his partner before cutting off her head.
We cannot avoid a confrontation with a stranger who wants to cut off your head, we can’t avoid the risk as it is unexpected and out of the blue.
If I could deport every rapist and murderer to Russia to use as sandbags I would. Granted not all newcomers will be violent just some of them. Some are planters here to destroy Europe, it’s a guessing game, there is no denying that there has been an increase in sexual assaults.

Openmouthinsertfood · 02/07/2026 05:06

Plasticdreams · 01/07/2026 23:26

I always thought that all they harped on about ‘savin are wimmin n kids’ was a cover up for the fact they are all abusers. It’s pretty obvious.
The reason we aren’t hearing much is because of the majority of our media is owned and connected to people who want to create a divisive society as it benefits their agenda. The whole campaign is a distraction and quite a few naive and simple folk have fallen for it and the rest want to be involved to try and cover up their own wrongdoings

Honest question, not intended to goad. I've heard before about 'them' that want to stoke division as it benefits them. Why would someone benefit? In what way? What agenda do they have?
Thanks for any insight/awnsers.

Plasticdreams · 02/07/2026 06:09

sure - if the public stays divided they may be less likely to push for policies that could reduce inequality, like higher taxes on the wealthy, better labour protections, regulation of large corporations. If people see each other as the problem, they pay less attention to systems or policies that are keeping them poor.

basically, if two neighbours spend all their time arguing about who belongs in the neighborhood, they may never notice that both of their rents keep rising or that their wages haven't kept up with living costs.

Plasticdreams · 02/07/2026 06:17

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What about the teacher who adopted a little boy with his husband and sexually abused him to the point he died recently in the news

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cvgld0vywpmo

white men are committing these heinous crimes at a much higher level than migrants are in the UK. You need to get some perspective. It’s not a migrant problem - it’s a men problem.

mugshot of Jamie Varley, who is wearing a cream polo shirt

Teacher guilty of abusing and murdering adopted baby boy

Preston Davey died after months of sexual and physical abuse at the hands of Jamie Varley.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cvgld0vywpmo

Urgentbiscuitrequired · 02/07/2026 06:47

This thread is fucking vile. People on either side of the political spectrum talking about their opinions on CA cases just to make a point to each other. How depressing.

Honeyhonayboo · 02/07/2026 06:50

I don't care at this point if the men who want to stop migrant crimes are monsters themselves.

Says it all. These men and their female supporters don’t actually care if a child abused or rapest is white.

DeftGoldHedgehog · 02/07/2026 06:54

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Get lost with your whatabouttery and racism.

TallSturdyGirls · 02/07/2026 06:55

Darragon · 01/07/2026 23:34

I mean you’ve found two news sources there on some nonentities no one has heard of who represent some obscure local far right group so it seems fairly well covered considering the lack of notability of the suspects and the fact they haven’t been found guilty of anything yet and trial by media can mess up prosecutions. So at this point, I’d be asking yourself… is it really that newsworthy? The editors of other news outlets obviously think not. They may change their minds if these blokes are found guilty.

…Waiting for the accusations of being far right for explaining how the media works… 🙄

But that's not how the media works. Much of the media works on the fact that it is owned by people that have agendas far wider than the actual news.
The majority of the press in this country if right leaning, and increasingly far right leaning. The largest newspaper by circulation and readership, the daily mail, has always thrived on division and divisive politics. Their owners make a lot of money by ensuring that we live in a right wing country. And that people believe that their miserable lives are the fault of immigrants, rather than the rich.

Plasticdreams · 02/07/2026 07:28

Urgentbiscuitrequired · 02/07/2026 06:47

This thread is fucking vile. People on either side of the political spectrum talking about their opinions on CA cases just to make a point to each other. How depressing.

How would you go about explaining to someone who thinks that all migrants are raping babies, when we know it’s actually men committing these crimes and their ethnicity or how they move around the world, whether they travel on a private jet or a dingy, has little to do with it.

Firetreev · 02/07/2026 08:05

Openmouthinsertfood · 02/07/2026 05:06

Honest question, not intended to goad. I've heard before about 'them' that want to stoke division as it benefits them. Why would someone benefit? In what way? What agenda do they have?
Thanks for any insight/awnsers.

We live in the most unequal time in human history. About a dozen men own half the world's wealth. It is grossly unfair, but they have no intention in giving up that wealth. Thus these men fear scrutiny, they fear progressive ideas which call for a fairer more equal society where everyone is lifted out of poverty and has a decent standard of living. And thus, they stoke division and hatred - if we're too busy blaming migrants and people of colour for our problems then we aren't looking at them for all the problems they cause through their insatiable greed and lust for power. They destabilise our nations with far right rhetoric and benefit as we don't challenge the status quo which has allowed them to become disgustingly wealthy.

On a side note look into disaster capitalism too. These same people enjoy exploiting tragedy too, these days you could even argue they engineer to line their own pockets.

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KindPinkEagle · 02/07/2026 08:16

Probably because virtually no-one knows there is a 'raise the colours' movement so anyone being a 'leader' of it anywhere really doesn't mean much so isn't going to be headline news for anyone outside of that local area and you've demonstrated that it is in the local press there.

Firetreev · 02/07/2026 08:47

KindPinkEagle · 02/07/2026 08:16

Probably because virtually no-one knows there is a 'raise the colours' movement so anyone being a 'leader' of it anywhere really doesn't mean much so isn't going to be headline news for anyone outside of that local area and you've demonstrated that it is in the local press there.

I've read about them regularly. They're the far right group who have been advocating hanging flags on every lamp post and painting roundabouts. They've also been going to Northern France to terrorise migrantsin camps. You maybe haven't heard of them, but you've definitely seen their influence.

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DdraigGoch · 02/07/2026 09:10

GoodkneeBadKnee · 02/07/2026 00:32

Let me guess. You live in an area with a majority white population, have a flag flying in your front garden, and hate Sadiq Khan...

Oh, it won't be in their front garden. That would mean erecting a pole and doing it properly. It'll be a very frayed and faded one, hanging limply from a gutter.

DdraigGoch · 02/07/2026 09:26

Openmouthinsertfood · 02/07/2026 05:06

Honest question, not intended to goad. I've heard before about 'them' that want to stoke division as it benefits them. Why would someone benefit? In what way? What agenda do they have?
Thanks for any insight/awnsers.

A lot of the European and American far right is Russian-backed. ReformUK's Welsh leader is doing porridge right now for taking Russian bribes. Russia benefits from instability in the west.

DdraigGoch · 02/07/2026 09:30

KindPinkEagle · 02/07/2026 08:16

Probably because virtually no-one knows there is a 'raise the colours' movement so anyone being a 'leader' of it anywhere really doesn't mean much so isn't going to be headline news for anyone outside of that local area and you've demonstrated that it is in the local press there.

It's the mob who were sticking St George's crosses up every lamp post a while back.

FudgeFudy · 02/07/2026 09:33

KindPinkEagle · 02/07/2026 08:16

Probably because virtually no-one knows there is a 'raise the colours' movement so anyone being a 'leader' of it anywhere really doesn't mean much so isn't going to be headline news for anyone outside of that local area and you've demonstrated that it is in the local press there.

Yeah I'm only dimly aware of Raise the Colours but from what little I do know it's clear that they're mouth-breathing scumbags. Finding out that the leading lights are wrong 'uns is a bit 'Dog Bites Man'.

EmeraldShamrock000 · 02/07/2026 10:01

DdraigGoch · 02/07/2026 09:26

A lot of the European and American far right is Russian-backed. ReformUK's Welsh leader is doing porridge right now for taking Russian bribes. Russia benefits from instability in the west.

As does Israel and the Middle East too. Europe is being destabilised for some reason and the people in charge are allowing it.
I don’t have the answers or any understanding why European leaders are continuing to allow mass immigration from 3rd world countries but here we are.
Even the Japanese people are protesting so it’s not just Europe being impacted by mass immigration.

NotAnotherScarf · 02/07/2026 10:17

My only comment as someone who is concerned with immigration is that ALL sick perverts irrespective of race or colour or creed should be in prison for life.

And I am surprised that the normally left of centre press haven't run with these stories and wonder why...is it that the raise the flag campaign really didn't amount to much apart from people flying flags or is there something else in place

Boomer55 · 02/07/2026 10:23

Abusers come in all types, colours and creeds.

Hanging flags is a seperate issue.

SinnerBoy · 02/07/2026 10:34

Darragon · Yesterday 23:34

I mean you’ve found two news sources there on some nonentities no one has heard of who represent some obscure local far right group

They've had loads of coverage in the press and there have been stories about them on the BBC, channel 4 etc. They may be small, but they're far from obscure. One of them has been charged with GBH, after he drove his van into people taking the flags down.

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