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Could a peace wristband appeal to those feeling politically homeless?

112 replies

Whatnow777 · 28/06/2026 12:48

I think what happened on October 7th is disgusting and honestly my worst nightmare as a mother - if one of my children were captured and tortured like those hostages. I also hate the rise of anti-Semitism in this country. At the same time, I am pro-peace and do feel for those innocent people in Gaza. I’m also anti-Hamas and feel that the regime should be abolished, and I do not want Sharia law in this country.

I have met people wearing ‘Pro Palestine’ bracelets who are anti Istraeli/ anti Jew (I have spoken to said people) and that scares me. (I know it might not be all).

The reason why I am posting this now is I have noticed so many of these wristbands and nothing in support of the Jews, for everything they have gone through /are going through.

My thoughts are that there may be a vast number of people who share my views, who want Jews to be protected in this country, who do not want sharia law in our country, who oppose the extremist acts that have been perpetrated in this country against whoever, and who also wish for peace for both Israelis and Palestinians.

It feels like our voices are not heard because we are not ‘one-sided’ as such, but perhaps are one sided in terms of being against hate and terrorism.

AIBU to think a wristband centred on peace, humanity and opposition to extremism could resonate with people who feel politically homeless in the current debate.

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Bellic · 29/06/2026 05:46

Whatnow777 · 28/06/2026 12:55

People wear symbols all the time to express values, solidarity or support for causes. My question was simply whether there are others who feel politically homeless in this debate and would welcome a symbol centred on peace, opposition to terrorism and hatred, and support for the safety of both Jews and Palestinians.

The Conservative Party represent me perfectly in this debate:

Jew deserve to feel safe in the UK.
Gaza is not something the UK government can fix and time spent debating it is time wasted.
Defence is a legitimate, successful industry in the UK and we should be doing all we can to encourage their sales.

So many people feel the need to advertise their virtuousness by waving a pally flag while knowing or caring nothing for the complexities of the situation. It’s 100% about telling everyone that they’re more virtuous than you. It’s so incredibly shallow. Being virtuous in a manner that no one sees still counts.

Corryvreckan · 29/06/2026 06:32

I think this childish need for badges etc is just that.
Fed up with tribalism, virtue signalling et al.
No more flags (except at sporting events) and no more lanyards.
All it does is breed even more division.

MushMonster · 29/06/2026 06:40

Oh wow! I am surprised at the split in your vote!
I am with you, peace and freedom for both Israelis and Palestinians. Which sounds like an impossible dream due to how enrooted Hamas and Netanyahu are. But it will happen.

CagedBirdInACage · 29/06/2026 06:45

You are 'one sided' though, very clearly. A week after Muslims suffered through a horrendous attack with a terrorist connection on the streets of Britain you don't show a scrap of concern for them rather you burble on about Sharia law. No mention of the mothers worst nightmare in Gaza where a baby on their mother's breast was targeted and killed with highly accurate quadcopters and their children are used in games of target practice by Israeli soldiers.

We all have our biases and you are no different. If you want to show support for Jewish people and Israelis as per your OP then I'm sure there is already a way to do that that is far more recognisable than a peace symbol.

MushMonster · 29/06/2026 06:59

OP has said that she feels for the innocent in Gaza.
For both sides. Nothing wrong with that.
True that I do not get what the shariah law in UK has to do with any of it. Neither Christianity in UK.
But she has stated that she wants peace for all the civilians in the area. All of them, equally. I agree with that. No more innocent blood spilled.

Phineyj · 29/06/2026 07:15

Whatnow777 · 28/06/2026 13:28

This is an interesting debate. Do all of you also feel the pro-Palestine bracelets are pointless and have not been effective for their cause?

It certainly gives you a tip to give the person a wide berth.

Moonmelodies · 29/06/2026 07:20

How do you propose to abolish Hamas peacefully?

Quackcow · 29/06/2026 07:33

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Whatnow777 · 29/06/2026 07:39

CagedBirdInACage · 29/06/2026 06:45

You are 'one sided' though, very clearly. A week after Muslims suffered through a horrendous attack with a terrorist connection on the streets of Britain you don't show a scrap of concern for them rather you burble on about Sharia law. No mention of the mothers worst nightmare in Gaza where a baby on their mother's breast was targeted and killed with highly accurate quadcopters and their children are used in games of target practice by Israeli soldiers.

We all have our biases and you are no different. If you want to show support for Jewish people and Israelis as per your OP then I'm sure there is already a way to do that that is far more recognisable than a peace symbol.

I did say in my original post that I DO also care for all the innocent people in Gaza and am pro - peace! Why can’t someone also condemn what happened/ is happening to Jews? Why can’t someone be anti terror (whoever is committing the terror?)

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MushMonster · 29/06/2026 07:42

OP, judging by the comments you get here, which are "priceless", ignore the whole thread.
Go with the peace pins that are mentioned by one of the posters.
MN will not through any meaningfull answer, as if you want to gather info on the opinion of the majority in UK.
MN is plagued with people who love throwing low punches to each other. Greatest waste of time.

Bellic · 29/06/2026 07:43

Whatnow777 · 29/06/2026 07:39

I did say in my original post that I DO also care for all the innocent people in Gaza and am pro - peace! Why can’t someone also condemn what happened/ is happening to Jews? Why can’t someone be anti terror (whoever is committing the terror?)

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Who doesn’t care for people of Gaza? Who wants to see innocents being flattened? You’re just the average Joe OP. Why do you feel the need to show off that you’re so compassionate that seeing kids being killed in Gaza makes you sad? It makes everyone sad.

There is nothing our government can do about it. Nothing. So get over the whole pally virtue signalling and do something about things you CAN change. Things here in the UK!

CagedBirdInACage · 29/06/2026 08:07

Whatnow777 · 29/06/2026 07:39

I did say in my original post that I DO also care for all the innocent people in Gaza and am pro - peace! Why can’t someone also condemn what happened/ is happening to Jews? Why can’t someone be anti terror (whoever is committing the terror?)

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Of course you can be concerned for both, your op makes it clear where your concern lies though. Read it back, equal concern for all is not shown, your post has a very definite focus of concern and that's fine, I haven't said that it isn't. Just that there are probably more recognisable symbols to use to display your support for Jewish people and Israelis than the peace symbol which isn't particularly associated with either.

CagedBirdInACage · 29/06/2026 08:11

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Whatnow777 · 29/06/2026 08:36

CagedBirdInACage · 29/06/2026 08:07

Of course you can be concerned for both, your op makes it clear where your concern lies though. Read it back, equal concern for all is not shown, your post has a very definite focus of concern and that's fine, I haven't said that it isn't. Just that there are probably more recognisable symbols to use to display your support for Jewish people and Israelis than the peace symbol which isn't particularly associated with either.

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Because Jews are being targeted here in the UK, so I was talking about how to show support for them here in the UK. I haven’t heard of so much as an uprising / aggression here in the UK targeting other religions but there is a surge in anti semitic activity. If you look at the stats you can clearly see that.

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Whatnow777 · 29/06/2026 08:39

I also started with a statement about Oct 7th because it is often glazed over. It was horrific. I also said I condone terrorism in Gaza. Gaza is talked about a lot. October 7th is not.

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ErroltheSwampDragon · 29/06/2026 08:41

Its a nice idea OP. To me the most effective thing would be to challenge those who deny, deflect, or justify antisemitism wherever you see it, including on this thread. Its shows we are not alone and could make some posters question themselves or others.

I'd also urge everyone to really dig into what they read, question the evidence, and who it comes from. Lots of major organisations (Amnesty, Red Cross, the UN) have helped perpetuate antisemitic lies and are helping to fuel the divisions growing between people.

342524u · 29/06/2026 08:45

As much as I hate these stupid virtue signalling flags etc rubbish, they do have a power to them, (hence why so many people fall for it) so it's not a bad idea, exp if you're surrounded by a load of other-band-wearers. But be prepared to explain it!

Ohthisheat · 29/06/2026 08:49

Whatnow777 · 28/06/2026 12:55

People wear symbols all the time to express values, solidarity or support for causes. My question was simply whether there are others who feel politically homeless in this debate and would welcome a symbol centred on peace, opposition to terrorism and hatred, and support for the safety of both Jews and Palestinians.

You could join the many Jews who protest against the genocide in Gaza. Antisemitism is not the same thing as recognising the rights and needs of Muslims.

Whatnow777 · 29/06/2026 08:52

Ohthisheat · 29/06/2026 08:49

You could join the many Jews who protest against the genocide in Gaza. Antisemitism is not the same thing as recognising the rights and needs of Muslims.

I agree that’ Antisemitism is not the same thing as recognising the rights and needs of Muslims.’

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ErroltheSwampDragon · 29/06/2026 08:54

Whatnow777 · 29/06/2026 08:52

I agree that’ Antisemitism is not the same thing as recognising the rights and needs of Muslims.’

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Despite these protests being a well known source of the fear being experienced by the many Jews?

Whatnow777 · 29/06/2026 08:57

ErroltheSwampDragon · 29/06/2026 08:54

Despite these protests being a well known source of the fear being experienced by the many Jews?

Sorry I should have clarified - ‘Antisemitism is not the same thing as recognising the rights and needs of Muslims’ is what I was agreeing with.

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Whatnow777 · 29/06/2026 08:59

ErroltheSwampDragon · 29/06/2026 08:54

Despite these protests being a well known source of the fear being experienced by the many Jews?

I agree those protests have not been peaceful protests and have caused more fear for Jews who are already being targeted more and more in the UK, and it’s unacceptable

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Ohthisheat · 29/06/2026 09:01

Whatnow777 · 29/06/2026 08:52

I agree that’ Antisemitism is not the same thing as recognising the rights and needs of Muslims.’

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Great. There are many who feel the same and I think you will find your people if you look.

PetiteParakeet · 29/06/2026 09:04

Whatnow777 · 29/06/2026 08:36

Because Jews are being targeted here in the UK, so I was talking about how to show support for them here in the UK. I haven’t heard of so much as an uprising / aggression here in the UK targeting other religions but there is a surge in anti semitic activity. If you look at the stats you can clearly see that.

Statistics also show a big rise in Islamophobic incidents. I suspect that’s got more to do with the ‘Unite the Kingdom’ flags on lampposts bunch scaremongering about Sharia law, rather than being directly related to conflict in the Middle East.

LuckyHazelFox · 29/06/2026 09:11

PetiteParakeet · 29/06/2026 09:04

Statistics also show a big rise in Islamophobic incidents. I suspect that’s got more to do with the ‘Unite the Kingdom’ flags on lampposts bunch scaremongering about Sharia law, rather than being directly related to conflict in the Middle East.

..and the reason for the continued anti-semitic attacks are? Oh please. Trying to attribute attacks on Muslims to flags on lamp posts is barrel scraping.