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AIBU for worrying about my DC futures bc of climate change?

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ByAzureMoose · Yesterday 21:37

I have 3 DC, my oldest is 11 and youngest is 1. I've always known climate change to be a problem but in my mind it was some distant faraway issue that would affect people in the year 2500. Since the global floods and wildfires and the UK heatwaves last year, I've started doing more research and realising how close to home the issue really is. Things like agricultural collapse of the food system, water scarcity, even repeat heatwaves and war and tipping points of no return etc and now I feel sick with panic all the time.
It sounds awful but I honestly wish I'd never had my youngest because now I just envision her future as some awful Mad-Max reality where she has to pay for water and ration food and not go outside during the daytime. These current heatwaves have just made it all worse and I just want to cry thinking about the horrible state we've left the planet in for our children, and the fact that I won't be around to protect them when s* really hits the fan. I've done more research to calm my nerves from proper climate scientists but the bleak reality just makes me feel worse.
My DH thinks I'm being a nutjob and worrying for no reason and I do feel awful for worrying so much about it when I have 3 gorgeous healthy DC, a good job, a great husband and house and otherwise wonderful life. The idea of the future and having some lovely DGC used to fill me with joy but now I'm honestly praying my children don't reproduce because I think the future for their children will be worse as they will see long after 2100. When the future looks so horrible AIBU for worrying so much about my DC futures?

OP posts:
JuliettaCaeser · Today 14:19

Our whole system is based on our consumption. We need a whole new system but who the hell can bring that in!

ByAzureMoose · Today 14:20

Treetreetreetree · Yesterday 22:36

Look at Zeke Hausfather on x or Bluesky - very informative and honest. I know he has two very young children and he is one of the world’s leading climate scientists.

Eat less meat and animal products.

I tried but as bad as it sounds the honesty does just make me feel worse - I don't need to know how much worse the world is going to get etc. And I went vegan last year which makes me feel a bit better but when everyone around me eats meat what's the point?

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ByAzureMoose · Today 14:26

Smolla · Today 10:58

So in the last 2 years since planning your third child you’ve just realised climate change is an issue? It wasn’t on your radar at all 2 years ago?

Of course I knew it was an issue but I always thought it was burning fossil fuels = hotter weather, I never did enough research to know how life-threatening or early it was until I was already pregnant with her. If I'd had known it would affect the UK this side of the century I never would have had any of my DC

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Keroppi · Today 14:28

JoyousOpalLemur · Today 13:45

Almost every word of this is nonsense!

Aircon, meat and humans are not good for the environment!

OK so off you pop to the suicide pods then since you're so bad for the environment. What a stupid comment!

marle131 · Today 14:32

I think two things can be true at once and for me I look at both the negative and the positive. The negative is the impending climate catastrophe, and I just have to be delusionally optimistic that more and more good people will start to wake up to work together to do something about it. And I do my bit wherever I can (red meat once a week only, recycling, not flying much etc). But the positive is that in many ways our kids have actually never had it so good. 150 short years ago life expectancy here was around 40 because tons of kids died before the age of 10. Nobody said “what’s the point in procreation and being alive” then - they did it because it’s the human urge to carry on. 100 years ago we were just out of a horrendous world war and about to go into another. History has meant human existence has always been relatively treacherous and often downright awful. Right now it’s unbelievably marvellous, believe it or not. It’s just a shame the 1% are pissing it all away for the rest of us.

Smolla · Today 14:32

ByAzureMoose · Today 14:26

Of course I knew it was an issue but I always thought it was burning fossil fuels = hotter weather, I never did enough research to know how life-threatening or early it was until I was already pregnant with her. If I'd had known it would affect the UK this side of the century I never would have had any of my DC

Everyone always says that once they’ve had the amount of children they want. It’s quite a strange phenomenon. Climate change only becomes clear once they’ve reproduced to the level they want. There’s been threads started on mumsnet pretty much word for word the same as yours for years. Again they’ve all conveniently already had 2-3+ children and all say they didn’t realise it was this bad until their last one was born. Suddenly they all say they’d never have had their children if they’d have known.

DreamyScroller · Today 15:46

Here's a link from a 2004 article in the Guardian predicting that Britain would be frozen over by now.

Climate hysteria has been going on, and getting it wrong, for many decades.

It's actually hilarious once you realise.

Please stop wasting your precious life worrying about this nonsense.

Pentagon tells Bush: climate change will destroy us

· Secret report warns of rioting and nuclear war· Britain will be ‘Siberian’ in less than 20 years · Threat to the world is greater than terrorism.

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2004/feb/22/usnews.theobserver

6ate9 · Today 15:58

DreamyScroller · Today 15:46

Here's a link from a 2004 article in the Guardian predicting that Britain would be frozen over by now.

Climate hysteria has been going on, and getting it wrong, for many decades.

It's actually hilarious once you realise.

Please stop wasting your precious life worrying about this nonsense.

We could use our precious life to make things better for future generations, especially if you have children and grandchildren.

Ubeinserious · Today 16:02

Well i dont know about you but where i am I need to pay for my water? And we get about 2 weeks of nice weather a year. I can see where your husband is coming from.

ThePeppyOpalScroller · Today 16:32

6ate9 · Today 10:26

The planet will be fine. The animals, plants and people are in danger!!!

No. The planet, and the animals and plants, have survived much, much worse.

JoyousOpalLemur · Today 16:38

Keroppi · Today 14:28

OK so off you pop to the suicide pods then since you're so bad for the environment. What a stupid comment!

What are you talking about?

6ate9 · Today 16:40

ThePeppyOpalScroller · Today 16:32

No. The planet, and the animals and plants, have survived much, much worse.

The planet will undoubtedly survive climate change, as the planet has endured and recovered from far more catastrophic events over its 4.5-billion year history.

Without humans, wild animals and biodiversity will flourish. WITH humans there is a danger, because we are the cause of the damage and we’re making it worse not better.

GeorgeMichaelsCat · Today 16:41

YABU. For all you know aliens could land on Earth tomorrow.

6ate9 · Today 16:43

GeorgeMichaelsCat · Today 16:41

YABU. For all you know aliens could land on Earth tomorrow.

You never know!!!!

DecisiveAction · Today 16:47

I’ve been worried for a long time. This recent heatwave has been the catalyst for me to take strong decisive action for my family.

We will no longer fly. At all. I’m in the process of changing the dc school to closer to home so that we can go car free. Dh car has already gone yesterday and mine will go at beginning of summer holidays. We have cancelled Dss driving lessons as don’t want to condone car use.

I’ve found a local shop where they sell things and you just take your own containers. I’m looking at other ways we can help the planet too. Considering banning the use of AI in our household completely but I need to really look into that as I suspect we use it often without realising?

Veronyk · Today 16:53

marle131 · Today 14:32

I think two things can be true at once and for me I look at both the negative and the positive. The negative is the impending climate catastrophe, and I just have to be delusionally optimistic that more and more good people will start to wake up to work together to do something about it. And I do my bit wherever I can (red meat once a week only, recycling, not flying much etc). But the positive is that in many ways our kids have actually never had it so good. 150 short years ago life expectancy here was around 40 because tons of kids died before the age of 10. Nobody said “what’s the point in procreation and being alive” then - they did it because it’s the human urge to carry on. 100 years ago we were just out of a horrendous world war and about to go into another. History has meant human existence has always been relatively treacherous and often downright awful. Right now it’s unbelievably marvellous, believe it or not. It’s just a shame the 1% are pissing it all away for the rest of us.

I agree with this.
Your children have as much chance of a happy life as any children anywhere ever.
Global warming is a new threat, but my grandparents used to worry about another ice age. And there have always been wars, famines, plagues, earthquakes, slavery and despotic regimes.
The likeliest outcome to global warming is that there will be awful suffering in some places but overall humanity will adapt to it. That's what we do.

6ate9 · Today 17:12

Veronyk · Today 16:53

I agree with this.
Your children have as much chance of a happy life as any children anywhere ever.
Global warming is a new threat, but my grandparents used to worry about another ice age. And there have always been wars, famines, plagues, earthquakes, slavery and despotic regimes.
The likeliest outcome to global warming is that there will be awful suffering in some places but overall humanity will adapt to it. That's what we do.

The awful suffering of running out of usable drinking water?

Whatifitallgoesright · Today 17:49

Balance out the hysteria by reading some Piers Corbyn or Bjorn Lomborg.

backformoreofthesame · Today 18:07

The likely outcome is that all the advances that you think you are raising a child in - like medicines and varied diets and free time - will vanish as land and people vanish , as fighting intensifies. It’s easy to assume the suffering will be elsewhere and that as the rich west we can ride it out but I am not so sure of that

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