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Scotland is about to get rid of prison for most crime and I am scared about the consequences

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CurdinHenry · 27/06/2026 09:54

The purpose is to save money because they can't afford to divert cash to build new prisons.

They've found a couple of studies (interviews with 5 individual subjects) they claim support "restorative justice" instead.

This means no prison for most crimes (including if you sack off your community service for the crime). It means shoplifting, mugging, most violent and sexual offences will not result in prison so the only thing stopping the criminal is the social penalty they can expect or their own moral compass.

Punch a nurse, spit on a bus driver, steal a school kid's iPhone at knifepoint all on the same day. No prison.

I know you're probably thinking this is an exaggeration of the policy and I can understand why because it seems too absurd and mad. But it's happening later this year.

(Peter Murrell got 5 years 3 months so they probably think they've dodged that embarrassing parallel but some of their sex offenders got less than that - Jordan Linden etc).

OP posts:
krustykittens · 28/06/2026 13:34

WilliamsandWatsonTooLateNSoul · 27/06/2026 21:19

Iirc Union St has had 2000 incidents
Union Square is akin to the wild west
Little hoodlums on tour with their free bus passes.
Hardly a flat surface across the city that hasn't got some graffiti tag.
There are a few prominent ones that must run into thousands in criminal damage.
£375,000 in graffiti damage to Aberdeen parks over 5 years.

The St.Nicholas area of the city centre has street drinkers/drug users camped out sitting on the ledges below the cash machines outside virgin Money.
This can be as early as 8am.

Our city centre is a zoo.

From what friends tell me, parts of Edinburgh are going the same way, mostly due to anti social behviour from kids. Since the SNP has decided not to criminalise children, they know there will be no consequences. Because, as others have pointed out, alternatives to prison cost money and there is none. It's not unreasonable to look at alternatives if prison isn't working but restorative justice alone isn't going to do a damn thing. As PP pointed out, many people need a lot of state support from the cradle to the grave and there isn't the money for that.

The SNP loves to portray itself as a progressive country, more Norwegian, definitely not English, but like the baby box fiasco, it rarely seems to understand what it is borrowing from Nordic counties and can't seem to follow through once the press announcement is made.

So with that sort of track record, as someone living in Scotland, I am very worried about this proposal.

Naunet · 28/06/2026 14:17

OneUniqueSquid · 28/06/2026 11:37

Then you don't know what / means even though I just explained it means and or.

They said 'I don't think non-violent/sexual offenders should be in jail'

It means I don't think non-violent and or non-sexual offenders should be in jail.

Which means violent and sexual offenders should be in jail in their opinion.

No it can just as easily mean "i don't think non-violent and or sexual offenders should be in jail..."

lovecotswoldsliving · 28/06/2026 15:20

CurdinHenry · 28/06/2026 12:33

An absolute maximum of about £150 a year. In Scotland it's "free" but tax is thousands higher.

You pay less tax up to £29,500.
Then slightly more.
The public sector are paid way more in Scotland, which is incredible.
House prices are, on average, cheaper.
You have no student loans. My daughter pays £700 a month.

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