AIBU to think some fatal driving offences should be manslaughter?

[Whichnumbers]

If a driver kills someone when they are purposely breaking the law that it should be manslaughter by car charges.

`For example using a hand held mobile to call or text, or using a digital device to watch tv whilst driving, or speeding over 20% the speed limit, drunk driving, running a red light, driving onto the pavement, then those action are deliberate and known to cause death if in a crash

presently the charge is death by dangerous driving which just doesn't seem to equate with the responsibility on the driver - they have murdered someone, knowing that their actions could kill

he had his sentence cut to 10 and a half years in dec 2018

he will most likely be out of prison by now and the 13 year ban will start from his realise - but he will have to take an extended driving test to enable him to drive legally again

@Whichnumbers Well most farmers aren’t criminals. Most guns used in anger on others are illegally held guns. The comparison with driving is a false one and sentencing is therefore different: look at the sentencing guidelines!

The MoJ spends around £15 billion a year so we need some big sums from criminals to fund any of that.

They certainly should be banned from driving for life. Not a fatality but might well as been, was the poor personal trainer who is now paralysed from the neck down. A silly little boy thought it was clever to overtake cars using his knees to steering while filming it. He hit her stationary car. He's only banned from driving for 40 months. Will try and find the link. Poxy prison sentence as well.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cx2nzd4r63go

Find a way to ban them before they kill someone. Life ban for anyone caught drink or drug driving a 2nd time. Prison for anyone caught driving whilst banned

I assume the sentence was reduced as he pleaded guilty. I’m surprised the sentence was not called in because it could have been longer but it’s not death by dangerous driving.

My ds when he was 17 witnessed his friend hit by a driver doing 74mph in a 40mph zone. He died in hospital a few hours later. This driver would not plead guilty despite camera evidence and thus dragged the three 17 year olds who witnessed it through a court case as witnesses. The driver got four years, probably out in two. The effects on everyone has been awful.

MeetMeOnTheCorner

Most drivers aren't criminals, it was sentencing I was comparing. It was whether you could have your licence back on release

there are many shooting incidents involving farmers, probably due to them proportionally having access to guns for legitimate matters and things sometimes go wrong

@Whichnumbers There’s info on this in the sentencing regulations.

32 people were killed by firearms in the year up to 31 March 2025. 1/4 of these were in London.