Tipping

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To not tip on a £120 haircut?

when handed the card machine it presented with multiple choices of tips ranging from 10% to 50%

I hesitated before pressing skip. But now feel a bit bad. However I feel that 120 is a lot to pay for a haircut and surely the salon is therefore paying a good salary to my hairstylist

50%… fuck right off.

Blimey 50% tip!!
I pay £60 and give the stylist £5.

Its optional, and on an expensive cut like that, I'd exercise that option! Less expensive, I'd tip for sure.

Oops! Typo! I meant 10-30%

To be clear, the options are:

10, 15, 20, 25, 30

Definitely don't think you should tip on £120 haircut and shouldn't feel bad about it.

Cheeky to add it to their card machine. I do wonder how much repeat business they lose when they do that.

It’s a bit like tipping at restaurants. Why should you be obliged to pay a percentage of the final bill? I mean if you ordered a pricey champagne vs a cheap bottle of plonk, why should you have to pay more for the service?

If they’re charging £120 it’s built in. I tip my local hairdresser because she’s cheap to make it with her while. £120 a customer and you don’t really need it.

This may be controversial but since everything’s gone up astronomically since Covid I’ve stopped that too. I think a tenner per couple is ample. This not taking card tips often takes the option out of our hands anyway - I rarely carry cash.

£120 for a cut? They must be laughing. I pay that for full foils, cut and extension rotation. No you don't need to tip.

I tip my hairdresser.. I wouldn't if they asked for one.

It depends - if the person who cut your hair was the owner of the salon there is no need to tip.

On the other hand, if it was an employee or someone who merely rents a chair, a tip is appropriate as the salon will take a cut. Though I’d never give more than 10% max.

Cricky I hope they don't introduce that at my salon..
I go for 4 cuts a year and give her a tenner at the Christmas cut.

I don’t tip hairdressers. Never have, never will. They are trained professionals who presumably charge their clients appropriately for their services. I am not lady bountiful. So why on earth would I want to tip them?

I paid for extended family members’s xmas lunch at a pub last year. There were 6 of us and the tip was 12.5% of the meal which then came to £350+. It was a bit of a shock the size of the bill however I would like to make it my treat to them every year but feel 12.5% is excessive especially with the minimum pay rate increasing. I would be ok paying 10% though. This wasn’t an increased service charge for x number of people. I am thinking this Xmas to have a word with the waitress and ask that only 10% is added to the meal. We are only talking about £8 + less but it’s the principle. Don’t want to go elsewhere cos this pub is a good meeting point for us all and the food was lovely. Am I being unreasonable?

£120 and they are taking the piss. Just a cut and blow dry, if done correctly half an hour tops. So you are paying £240 an hour. Based on a 35 hour week that's £8,400 a week or over £400k per year...and you feel guilty about not tipping!!

Tipping is you supporting employers paying shit wages

But if it's the owner of the salon, they have overheads - rent, business rates, electricity bill, water bill, repairs.....

That isn't to say that you should also tip the owner; quite the opposite. I'm saying that, whichever level the person is at, they should have figured in all their costs and charged accordingly so that they're left with a decent living at the end of it.

Tipping is patronising and is essentially you clearly telling them that you don't believe they're competent at running their own business/livelihood - meaning that they're dependent on arbitrary charity from people who weirdly know their (the stylist or whoever's) business better than they do themselves. If you respect them, their business skills and their basic maths ability, don't tip them.

Presumably £120 for a cut means you have gone to a good salon with a very experienced stylist. It doesn’t compute that she’s (or he) doesn’t deserve it need the top because it’s expensive in the first place. I would tip 10%.

The owner will have these costs built into the amount they charge. This is how hair salons have traditionally worked. If this has changed I did not get the memo.

At the salon I just round the payment up, eg £116 to £120 or whatever. She's also the owner and washes hair too.

I do tip 10% at restaurants though, but that usually costs less than half of what the hair dressers does.

Yes, exactly - so why would they need random charity in the way of 'tipping'?!

Japanese culture seems to 'get' this, whereby people doing the job for which they are suitably paid will feel naturally insulted if anybody indicates an assumption that they're incapable of earning enough without extra charity.

I'm wondering if this is the doings of the card machine supplier. They charge a percentage for taking payments. So they earn more for larger payments. Increase the amount taken by all those hairdressers, restaurants, takeaways, taxis, etc etc that they supply card machines to and they earn more money and customers blame greedy and business incompetent hairdressers and restaurant owners.

The real villains are the big businesses who take a cut of everyone else's takings, sneaking in extra charges in the process. See also parking apps and Deliveroo, Uber, JustEat etc.

But again that is a cost that the business will be factoring in

Yes, this. Before (almost) everybody paid by card, they presumably had to pay bank fees for paying cash into their business account - as well as paying/allowing for somebody to have to take it to the bank each day, not to mention extra insurance for having significant amounts of cash on the premises.

I similarly get annoyed at places that sell tickets and still insist on charging a booking fee - even though there are no physical tickets to print, no postage to get them to you, nobody having to write/print envelopes and walk to the post box... you're literally paying to administer and process your own tickets!

Businesses can't complain about having to bear the costs of modern ways of doing business but stay mysteriously quiet about the (often higher) old costs of the old processes that they have now superseded!

Op i don’t tip anyone. You don’t need to tip at all in this country.