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Family advice please

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adviceonchildplease · Yesterday 23:11

Hello everyone. I would appreciate a little advice please, even from the male perspective too if possible.
Apologies it is rather long to read.

A little background to give context.

My husband and I have been having discussions recently about the inequality in our relationship. I am a stay at home Mum that also runs a business 4 days a week. I have done every single day with the children for the last 9 years. The only night away had been into hospital overnight to have my second child. Every single night feed/waking etc has been me. My husband has had some illnesses/work trips/ family health support that he has needed to spend some time away from home for short trips ( anywhere from 2-8 days)
I do all the cooking cleaning household chores, grocery shopping, holiday planning, etc etc you get the gist. He feels like his contribution is providing for the family, which I am grateful for, but feel that that doesn’t then give him a get out of parental responsibility card.
He gets every morning lie in, even on weekends, and even when we go on holiday, I’m still getting up early with the kids.

So on to my query, I recently unexpectedly had to leave him at home with our children ( aged 9 and 4) for 36 hours. He wasn’t totally alone, some friends came to help with the kids. He had help for approx 5 hours out of the 36. I had planned and prepared meals and left them ready to go, as well as moved over the car seats and packed all activities for the things they needed to do whilst I was gone. The reason for my sudden trip was stressful and emotionally draining and included around 20 hours of travelling, getting home around 10pm at night. Whereupon I then moved the car seats back to my car and tidied up a few things around the house getting to bed around 11pm.

Today I was back at work, he had taken the day off to do a few jobs around the house and help me with the kids. He went for a nap after lunch, for over 2 hours.

When he woke, a while after I commented that “now you have seen what it’s like to be me, it’s tiring isn’t it?” Meaning that it’s not as easy as it looks to be a full time stay at home Mum ( that also works 4 days a week) I don’t get to just go for a nap when I’m tired.
He didn’t like this passing comment from me, got very defensive and annoyed with me for “making him feel inadequate, and that I wouldn’t be able to do his job either, and I don’t have a chronic illness like he does (chronic fatigue), that I’ve never had to have a stressful job and feel pressures like he does”
(I should point out I did have a stressful career before being a Mum, and I reminded him of this, but it’s not the same apparently?)

All I was merely trying to point out was to get him to think back to our many previous discussions about making our family workload more equal, now that he had seen for himself what it was like for me on a daily basis. This was the first time he had ever been a solo parent for more than 5 hours. I have previously asked him to look at the Fair Play cards with me, so we could split our workload more fairly, that suggestion also prompted a heated response from him.

Can anyone enlighten me as to why he was so annoyed, did I really say something awful to offend him? Please can you gently explain to me what I said wrong and I will apologise to him if so.

Thank you for any advice.

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PullTheBricksDown · Yesterday 23:16

No, it wasn't awful and he's been getting an easy ride. A dad should be able to look after his own children without help for a single day. Assert yourself on the lie ins and split the weekend - you get Saturday him Sunday (if he gets the first one, yours will mysteriously not happen the next day)

JLou08 · Yesterday 23:21

Are you working 4 full days?
He sounds like a lazy piss taker. Even if you weren't working at all you should at least have some breaks and he should be doing some cooking and housework. It sounds like he is still living the life of a childless man whilst you do everything at home as well as working.
You didn't say anything wrong, I think it probably just hit a nerve and made him realise he is inadequate.

adviceonchildplease · Yesterday 23:24

Yes 4 full days 8-5:30

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relaxitsok · Yesterday 23:28

I wouldn’t call you a stay at home mum, you have a paid job. Does he actually have chronic fatigue? How long has he had it? How many days does he work?

adviceonchildplease · Yesterday 23:31

Yes he has chronic fatigue, sometimes it seems better then others, he has had it since he was a teenager.
He works 5 full days

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Pinkflamingo10 · Yesterday 23:32

Weekends and holidays need a 50/50 lie-in division for a start.
you are entitled to rest and breaks.
you’re not A SAHM you’ve got a job , AND you’re also doing all the jobs at home. This isn’t fair at all. He needs to step up. Sounds like he is living his childfree life and you are doing all the adulting.

JLou08 · Yesterday 23:32

adviceonchildplease · Yesterday 23:24

Yes 4 full days 8-5:30

You're not a stay at home mum really, your life sounds more like the life of a single working mother.
Now he has done some childcare without anything catastrophic happening, you should make it a regular thing. Take a day every weekend for yourself.

user293948849167 · Yesterday 23:52

No no no, you’re not a “SAHM” if you’re running a business 4 days a week! You’re a mum with a part time job .

You look after your DC and do every single thing around the house while also running a business. Does he really have the nerve to complain about looking after his own kids for 36h with help from friends?!! Seriously?
You didn’t make him “feel inadequate” he IS inadequate and he knows it.
I would start making changes right now so your loads are more equal, and if he resists make plans to leave

Wishitsnows · Yesterday 23:57

You are not a stay at home mum! He is taking the absolute piss. You shouldn’t have got anything prepared for when you weren’t there. He doesn’t for you. You would be better off without him.

GrantMyWishes · Today 00:09

Sorry OP, but if your DH had chronic fatigue there is no way that he could hold down a full time job. When I suffered from it, I could literally sit on the arm of a chair while pausing to chat briefly to someone, and I would fall asleep. I couldn't even manage to push the vacuum cleaner around, a couple of pushes and I was exhausted, so I think that if he actually has a doctor's diagnosis, that he's managed to pull the wool over the doctor's eyes. Depending on how old he is now, is it possible he could have Googled the symptoms before presenting to the doctor?

Also, the only thing you did wrong was giving him the opportunity to see how hard you work, and how much you do, compared to what he does, making him defensive because he knows full well that he does F all compared to what you do.

InterestedDad37 · Today 00:12

From a male perspective - there's absolutely nothing I can say to defend his actions or his viewpoint. Nothing. Nada. Zilch. Not even the chronic fatigue stuff. I'm surprised you've put up with it for so long - you really don't have to.

Morepositivemum · Today 07:33

GrantMyWishes
Sorry OP, but if your DH had chronic fatigue there is no way that he could hold down a full time job. When I suffered from it, I could literally sit on the arm of a chair while pausing to chat briefly to someone, and I would fall asleep. I couldn't even manage to push the vacuum cleaner around, a couple of pushes and I was exhausted, so I think that if he actually has a doctor's diagnosis, that he's managed to pull the wool over the doctor's eyes. Depending on how old he is now, is it possible he could have Googled the symptoms before presenting to the doctor?

Sorry but I work with a lady that works full time with chronic fatigue and she is in every day to work (retail). While I agree that he needs to step up, assuming he’s lying about a condition isn’t really going to help the op- if she had said she had it you wouldn’t be doubting her. Op does your business earn money or is a side hustle/ hoping to make money type job- it doesn’t totally matter I just don’t get why he’s acting like he’s the only one working

Duvetdayforme · Today 07:36

Why are you referring to yourself as SAHM? You may work from home but you are a businesswoman working four days a week.

He sounds pathetic. Can’t even look after his own DC without help and a medal?

Sassylovesbooks · Today 07:40

Essentially your husband goes to work full-time, and sees that, as his only responsibility in life. I'm sure his job is stressful and he may have a lot of responsibility but that's the case for a lot of people. It doesn't give him a 'get out' card that allows him to absolve himself of all family and parenting responsibilities! Unfortunately, your husband isn't the only man in the world who thinks this way, many do.

You run a business from home and have all the household and parenting responsibilities. Yet according to your husband's thinking, none of this is as hard work, responsible or important as his job!!

You didn't say anything wrong at all OP. Your husband is defensive because he knows deep down, what you said is true. Now he's had a dose of your daily life, and realises it's not as easy as he thought. He's not going to admit that though, because if he did, he'd have to step up and help you! Your husband doesn't want to help you, why would he? He's had it easy hasn't he since your children have been born, never having to lift a finger at home or parent his own children.

You are married to a selfish man-child, who hasn't grown-up. Household chores and parenting should be shared, because you are in a partnership.

itsgettingweird · Today 07:43

You work a full time week over 4 days - how are you a SAHM?

You are both working parents and therefore the split is 50:50 with regards everything else with agreement on the 5th day he works you do things like the food shop etc.

Id be telling him it’s 50:50 split or you’ll split and he can do his 50% alone.

beAsensible1 · Today 07:48

You are not. Stay at home mum if you run a business 4 days a week. So let’s start there, by doing this you are invalidating you work and thus getting lumped as you apparently have the free time given by his working. This is not the case he is not the sole provider you need to split work 50/50. What a selfish lazy twat.

he is getting annoyed because he knows he has a good thing and doesn’t want to do more and the only way to justify is to keep feeding into the fallacy that he somehow does more than you, he doesn’t. Keep pushing this cannot go on.

TheJoyousHiker · Today 07:58

I’m surprised you’ve tolerated this set -up for the past nine years. Honestly, it sounds as if your DH has no respect for you. I’d be explaining to him, the days of him doing nothing with regards to the running of the house/caring for your children are over and if he doesn’t step up so there’s an equal split, then the marriage is over. Your life would probably be easier and without resentment.

Rondayvu · Today 08:11

He is useless, like having a third child. If anything was to 'give' it would be getting rid of him for a start.

Also a SAHM does not work. You are a working mum not a stay at home one even though you clearly work from home there is a huge difference.

ThejoyofNC · Today 08:15

Why on earth are you choosing to live like this?

Pinkdayss · Today 08:34

What a selfish loser he is.

What is the point of him?

Awful example to your children of how useless some fathers are.

Do you really want to stay with him?

You are not a sahm.

You are working 7 days a week with a selfish loser for a husband that does fxxk all.

adviceonchildplease · Today 09:41

Thank you for all the comments, I appreciate you taking the time to reply.

so it appears I have caused some confusion with the term Stay at home Mum.

what I mean is the job is working from home, (I’m a childminder, ) so it enables me to have my own children at home with me, as opposed to physically going out to work and using other childcare for those hours.

I get paid for this work, it’s not a hobby/hoping to get paid type of thing. My work pays for all food/holidays/ children’s birthday and Christmas presents, my car repairs/fuel plus anything else I need to spend on myself or my business.

on my day I’m not working I do the food shop with my child, and a deep clean of the house, plus paperwork/ admin for family/ business.

so it indeed seems I didn’t say anything terribly hurtful to him, I perhaps touched a nerve and he didn’t like it! Interesting!! Thank you all for your perspective

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Pinkdayss · Today 15:00

It sounds like you work very hard, juggling and doing it all.

He's a complete waster.

KellyJonesLeatherTrousers · Today 15:31

This has clearly been a latent issue for a loooong time as you have been doing everything and letting him get away with doing nothing. You say that you have raised this with him and he insists he is doing enough by just bringing in a wage. So it follows that he reacted when he had to actually do something.

If he isn’t going to change his position, what is your next step?

Larrythecatforpm · Today 15:51

Sounds like he’s using CF as a excuse to be honest. I have chronic illnesses and still get on with things, he’s just lazy. Sorry.

Tryonemoretime · Today 18:16

You both work full time, OP. The difference is, he's working full time with a chronic illness. CF is like Long Covid. It can be at different levels.
One of my daughters had CF (ME). At one time, she was either on the sofa or in bed with all the curtains drawn. The fatigue was so intense, she didn't have the energy to watch TV or read. It was terrible. Photos of her show a white face with sunken eyes. Eventually she was able to go back to school part time, then full time.
I have Long Covid - similar to CF. At one time I was so ill my doctor sent me straight to A and E. I spent most of the time on the sofa or in bed. I can now do all normal things and look normal, but exercise puts me straight back on the sofa. It's like you have a bucket of energy, but when it's gone, it's gone. I feel so sad that I'm not always a fun person for my husband to live with.
If your husband has CF, he might be fine at work, but his bucket of energy might be gone by the end of the working day.
It's hard on you, but it might well not be his fault.
If you can afford it, perhaps a cleaner might take some of the pressure off you?