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Perceptions of 'healthy' or 'overweight' are really skewed by the area you live in?

271 replies

alwaysdream · Yesterday 11:21

I'm sure I'll get roasted for this, but here goes anyway...

I live in an area of London where pretty much nobody is 'overweight.' Particularly young people.

Last night, in Wembley Stadium (Harry Styles concert), the ONLY food available was chicken and chips or doughnuts. That's it. And - I know this will sound very judgemental - but I'd say about 7 / 10 people were quite 'overweight,' but all walking around in tiny shorts and cropped tops, etc (I know this is the vibe at this kind of event). It made me wonder if this is 'normal' for young people, on a national level? I know it sounds judgemental, but AIBU? Are most teens overweight where you live?

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BringBackCatsEyes · Today 17:26

ComfyKnickers · Today 15:37

I don't keep a spreadsheet, but I like that idea 😆

At the moment I'm using AI for meal suggestions and ways to make small improvements to my diet. Yesterday it listed my plant intake for the week.

Here it is...

Strawberries, satsuma, apple, grapes, raspberries, blueberries, gooseberries, pineapple, mango, banana, kiwi fruit, redcurrants, blackcurrants, lemon, lime, courgette, aubergine, butternut squash, sweet potato, potato, cauliflower, celery, broccoli, asparagus, edamame, rhubarb, tomato, carrot, onion, spring onion, garlic, red cabbage, peppers, cucumber, spinach, mixed lettuce, chard, radishes, beetroot, sugar snap peas, olives, chickpeas, green lentils, kidney beans, black beans, butterbeans, cannellini beans, pinto beans, soybeans, oats, wheat, buckwheat, rice, mint, parsley, lovage, chives, rosemary, thyme, sage, cinnamon, nutmeg, cloves, mace, ginger, chilli, paprika, turmeric, fenugreek, black pepper, sumac, peanut, almond, pistachio, walnuts, pecans, prunes, dates, sesame, coconut, coffee, green tea, miso

(Which I realise isn't 85)

If we're counting tea and coffee as eating plants, as well as the teaspoon of fennel seeds etc in our curry then I'm probably up to 85 as well!

CuteOrangeElephant · Today 17:29

UltimateSloth · Today 13:13

A lot of it is down to the way we spend our leisure time. If you don't have much money the leisure activities available to you are mainly screen based. This enables you to eat at the same time. I notice it myself as screen time has crept up. When I was a teen I was always out - the internet wasn't a thing and there was one TV in the house with 4 channels, mostly with my parents choice of programmes.

I was always out, never home and as I couldn't afford to eat out I ate very little when out of the house. When I'm at home these days there is constant thoughts about what food I have in the kitchen and I find myself snacking. I notice my own children, while not overweight are bigger than the skinny teen I used to be and they spend a lot more time at home than I did and graze while gaming etc. They do sports and gym, but a few hours a week of that doesn't entirely cancel out the extra calories available to them.

I have taken up knitting in the evening, cut down massively on the snacking!

Chestecoffthatcarriedheroff · Today 17:57

PancakeCloud · Today 15:34

The problem with these interventions is that there isn’t much evidence to support them being effective in reducing obesity rates significantly (feel free to correct me if I’ve missed it).

In an ideal world everyone would have a healthy diet and lifestyle and maintain a healthy weight but in the real world I think we should be grateful we have drugs which can help.

You only have to read the WLI board to see that many on these medications haven’t overhauled their nutrition; they just eat smaller portions of junk food. Exercise is non existent or postponed until they’ve lost all the weight, and where is the motivation to maintain exercise when the primary objective disappears? Fast food and ultra-processed foods are here to stay. As WLI medications become more affordable and available in tablet form, I’m sure there will be many people that maintain sedentary lifestyles and poor diets, relying on a daily pill to offset the health consequences.

likimagee · Today 18:03

Chestecoffthatcarriedheroff · Today 17:57

You only have to read the WLI board to see that many on these medications haven’t overhauled their nutrition; they just eat smaller portions of junk food. Exercise is non existent or postponed until they’ve lost all the weight, and where is the motivation to maintain exercise when the primary objective disappears? Fast food and ultra-processed foods are here to stay. As WLI medications become more affordable and available in tablet form, I’m sure there will be many people that maintain sedentary lifestyles and poor diets, relying on a daily pill to offset the health consequences.

Even if this was true, what’s your point? Someone on WLI still eating junk but in smaller amounts who is not overweight is going to be lower risk for diet related illnesses than someone overweight with an even bigger diet of junk food.

Coldautumnmornings · Today 18:17

I come from quite an affluent area so
rarely see overweight people.

We once went to a huge campsite in Cornwall and I couldn't get over the amount of overweight people. I thought it was some kind of weight watchers convention at first. (It wasn't). But I realised I'd been living in a bubble and saw first hand the obesity crisis amongst a certain demographic.

Dragonscaledaisy · Today 18:30

BringBackCatsEyes · Today 14:48

If you are giving your opinion based on your personal experience, why is it relevant that you are a doctor?
I don't think you need to be a qualified doctor to observe overweight people.

I have access to surveillance and registry data that are not in the public domain through my work. HTH

nearlylovemyusername · Today 18:42

dizzydizzydizzy · Today 13:35

Oh for goodness sake….. I have been to virtually every country in Europe. I did not say other European countries do not have fat people. In many or probably most European countries, people are on average slimmer than in the UK.

That's my observation as well. I travel a lot, UK is the fattest country by far, Germany is probably the next, but the gap with e.g. France and Spain is shocking. If you see a large than local average person in Med and listen them speaking, it's nearly certain to be English or American

Dragonscaledaisy · Today 18:50

Chestecoffthatcarriedheroff · Today 17:57

You only have to read the WLI board to see that many on these medications haven’t overhauled their nutrition; they just eat smaller portions of junk food. Exercise is non existent or postponed until they’ve lost all the weight, and where is the motivation to maintain exercise when the primary objective disappears? Fast food and ultra-processed foods are here to stay. As WLI medications become more affordable and available in tablet form, I’m sure there will be many people that maintain sedentary lifestyles and poor diets, relying on a daily pill to offset the health consequences.

They've reduced their risk of cardiovascular disease and a host of other conditions as well as potentially increasing the number of healthy life years they will live - that's fantastic.

KilkennyCats · Today 18:52

Dragonscaledaisy · Today 18:50

They've reduced their risk of cardiovascular disease and a host of other conditions as well as potentially increasing the number of healthy life years they will live - that's fantastic.

How, if they’re still not getting proper nutrition?

PancakeCloud · Today 18:59

Thebigonesgetaway · Today 17:21

Yes because when you’re hot the only cool option is a crop top and short shorts Confused

Just why do you care if someone is wearing an outfit you deem unflattering? No one is forcing you to wear a crop top and shorts

Dragonscaledaisy · Today 19:00

KilkennyCats · Today 18:52

How, if they’re still not getting proper nutrition?

They will notice signs of nutritional deficiencies which can be managed and that provides an opportunity for education as well.

user4903456342 · Today 19:02

KilkennyCats · Today 18:52

How, if they’re still not getting proper nutrition?

I would imagine by simply not being obese or significantly overweight, they're taking strain off their joints, heart and lungs, and reducing their odds of high blood pressure, cholesterol and diabetes regardless?

Chestecoffthatcarriedheroff · Today 19:03

Dragonscaledaisy · Today 18:50

They've reduced their risk of cardiovascular disease and a host of other conditions as well as potentially increasing the number of healthy life years they will live - that's fantastic.

These drugs are a temporary chemical scaffold and do nothing to prevent nutritional deficiencies, and muscle and bone loss, but hey that’s ok, I’m sure they’ll be another pill to take to offset that.

PancakeCloud · Today 19:06

Chestecoffthatcarriedheroff · Today 19:03

These drugs are a temporary chemical scaffold and do nothing to prevent nutritional deficiencies, and muscle and bone loss, but hey that’s ok, I’m sure they’ll be another pill to take to offset that.

So do you think there is an obesity epidemic or a nutritional deficiency epidemic? :s

worldshottestmom · Today 19:07

Teens in my area are mostly an average weight, with some above that and some below that. Same for the adults really.

user4903456342 · Today 19:07

Chestecoffthatcarriedheroff · Today 19:03

These drugs are a temporary chemical scaffold and do nothing to prevent nutritional deficiencies, and muscle and bone loss, but hey that’s ok, I’m sure they’ll be another pill to take to offset that.

I very rarely see this kind of rigidity of thinking outside of Mumsnet. It's such a strange phenomenon.

Dragonscaledaisy · Today 19:13

Chestecoffthatcarriedheroff · Today 19:03

These drugs are a temporary chemical scaffold and do nothing to prevent nutritional deficiencies, and muscle and bone loss, but hey that’s ok, I’m sure they’ll be another pill to take to offset that.

These drugs are not for short-term use only for many people. You're showing an astounding level of ignorance. Obesity is a chronic, relapsing disease and should be managed as such, as are other chronic diseases.

nomas · Today 19:19

alwaysdream · Yesterday 12:33

I was shocked at how crap and basic the food options are at Wembley arena. Food at other similar venues in London is generally quite good.

What on earth are you on about, OP?

Here are the dining options, including Thai, Greek, Indian, Sushi and many others.

www.boxpark.co.uk/venues/wembley/food-and-drink

This is basically a thread to smirk and sneer at overweight girls daring to wear cool clothes in this heat. At least own it.

Seriously, give your head a shake.

likimagee · Today 19:20

KilkennyCats · Today 18:52

How, if they’re still not getting proper nutrition?

Who is saying “they’re” not getting proper nutrition, the pp who has raised it seems to have determined that from her own survey of MN posts.

FriendlyMedusa · Today 19:32

BaffledOwl · Today 15:55

You're assuming I haven't experienced poverty.

I have. I've been the kid who has had to sleep in my coat when the electric was cut off, and whose mum would skip meals so we were fed. I've been the kid who used to live on the cheap Iceland lasagnes and the massive congealed cheese pasta pots from Asda... Also no holidays, day trips. We had bare floors, and basic furniture (which was always free second hand).

Please don't assume I don't get it.

I don't purport to know anything about you - It's not a personal attack to completely disagree with your proposed solutions and explain why.

TaraRhu · Today 19:43

It's related to wealth not area. You don't see many overweight people in Chelsea pop over to Croydon and it's a different story. Access to food and money to buy healthy food is key. Plus money for fitness, weight management etc

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