AIBU to think a man accused of throwing a child into a crocodile enclosure should not get bail?

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Aibu to think the man who threw an unknown 3 year old into a crocodile enclosure shouldn't be out on bail?

If anyone could provide any insight into the reasoning behind why was granted bail I would be very interested to hear it.

AIBU: He's a danger to society
AINBU: Innocent until proven guilty

Anywhere? What does that mean?

Honestly your responses on here are ridiculous!

They may both be victims…

You may feel sympathy for both parties, but I do not. I do not care for anyone who does not have basic empathy for others and commits horrific acts. I don't care why or what's wrong with him. I don't care if he has the mind of a toddler or severe autism or learning disabilities or what the hell is wrong with him.
He simply needs to be removed. Forever. Preferably somewhere where he can't attack the poor minimum wage staff like that psycho who threw that poor boy off the Tate modern.

I can't imagine how it feels for the poor family to see discussions like this "oh, let's make sure he's in just the right facility for his poor little needs" just get rid of him.

My empathy is only with the boy, his family and all the people that had to witness that horrific act. I hope all of them get the support they need. To hell with that monster.

In essence, yes - but with limitations.

He gets enjoyments from animals. He plays with animal toys in much the same way a toddler would. He’s currently 9, and around 2.5 cognitively.

Risk assessment wise however - I wouldn’t take him alone, and currently we would take him on reins. When he’s older, I would take him in a wheelchair that he was strapped into.

We don’t currently have carers, but in that case, I’d want the adults that took him to be very familiar with him.

He’s not actually currently a risk to others whatsoever, but he is a big fan of absconding if he gets the chance, so he isn’t given the chance.

How about a pit full of crocodiles?

But honestly, just anywhere that has a lock and key. A prison cell somewhere. I don't care.

Wow. Are you okay?

No, not really.

I did gather as much. But thank you for your honesty.

No, your ridiculous answers like you’d throw him in the crocodiles as well shows that!

How do you think you’d lift him up to do that?

You don’t seem to be able to have a reasonable conversation.

Be careful what you want, your child may be affected by this type of disability…

You do realise that, at any time, you could suffer a brain injury that leaves you with significantly reduced cognitive ability? Would that instantly make you a monster who should be locked away?

Fair enough, then maybe step away from the thread?

Have to agree!

Or as I pointed out their child…

If I threw children into crocodile pits then yes. Remove me from society. As soon as possible.

No, I'll stay, because it's actually making me feel much better to let it all out. Thanks for the suggestion though.
Like any of you actually give a shit if I'm OK 😂

Ok, but honestly it seems to be making you more enraged! But only you know.

If it helps the empathy for the perpetrator doesnt take away from the empathy for the victim.

I used to work doing assessments of wether people were fit for trial, custody etc. I've also worked in secure hospitals.

Part of that is motivated by getting it right for society

I imagine it was really hard for victims when I assessed that someone shouldn't go through the criminal justice route, but go to a secure hospital. Or when I stated they werent fit for interview.

However I was also motivated to protect the trial too. Getting it right meant that trials wouldn't fall apart, that perpetrators couldn't go through endless appeals and cases overturned because that's also traumatic to the victim. I would hate for someone to be found not guilty simply because tje evidence gathered became inadmissable because they were unwell.

I had a sense of responsibility for society at large. In cases similar to this going through the criminal justice route might make fulfill the want for blood but not when the trial falls apart and they arent found guilty. And not when they returned people back into society after the prison sentence to the same scenario.

Diverting people into hospital often meant they were in state care for longer, given proper care and release conditions that reduced the risk to public much more successfully.

I hold the rights of the individual and the rights of society at the same time when realistically "getting rid" of people isnt on the list of options

Let what out though, how much you think disabled people have “poor little needs”?

You could have always said that, it just looks less ableist today.

While I'm at it, those useless carers who failed to control the monster should be locked up for a spell too.
And whatever overpaid social worker decided he should have 2:1 supervision while out (so was clearly known to be dangerous) but also that sending him to a zoo full of children with two gormless phone addicted, uneducated support workers was a good idea.
Lock them all up. Together.

No shit.

Do you think they should all be tried in a diplock court, with you as the judge?

You’ve no idea what happened, who if anyone is at fault.

Don’t believe everything you read in the DM!

Mine has 2:1 so he doesn’t throw himself into bodies of water, or play with fire, or run into roads.

Because he’s got silly little needs.

Not necessarily. Disabled people can need 2:1 for several reasons.

But you clearly aren't interested in facts. Enjoy your little rants.

I wonder if this is the same user who almost exclusively posts about how much she resents the disabled kids at her own kid’s mainstream school?

I hope so. If there’s two of them that’s concerning.

She’s got a lot of cousin issues!! On the current name anyway.