Young child caused accident on pavement

[Senso]

AIBU to think that young children should not be allowed to be in charge of a pushchair on the pavement?

I was witness to an incident that happened on a busy street where a young child, aged around 8 was pushing a pushchair - occupied by a toddler - too fast, and collided with another pedestrian.

the injured person had been walking at a normal pace in the opposite direction but the child just charged straight into her causing her to fall and sustain quite a nasty impact injury.

The parents didn’t seem to get that the child had caused the accident, instead repeating that it was “just an accident, no-one was to blame”

i think otherwise.

No YANBU. I had a supermarket trolley rammed into the back of my legs at the weekend that was being pushed by a kid who couldn’t even see over the top. I have a couple of nasty bruises right across my calves and a bruise on the bottom of my spine because of it and it nearly knocked me off my feet. This kind of thing annoys me. Back in the 90s when I was 8, I would just push my baby doll in a pram, not my little sister.

It's sad that so many on here apparently don't understand that for the elderly, a fall can easily be the trigger that sends them on a downward spiral that ends in their death. I've seen it happen twice in the last few years, just among my own family.

OP, you're right. It's disgusting when parents not only don't watch their children to prevent them from hurting someone (including the child in the pram, in this case), but then excuse themselves of any responsibility when something bad does happen.

Agreed, my poor dear nanny fell and broke her hip. She ‘recovered’ but was never the same, she became housebound out of choice as she was so scared of falling again, lost her confidence, spirit and eventually passed away. It all stemmed from that fall!

i read that if your in a car and you know a crash is about to happen and your in the correct lanes etc but you let the crash happen because you were in the correct lanes etc aparently your still partly responsible for not trying to avoid it.

to me it seems this was similar if the pedistrian was walking towards the pushchair then why not step out the way or step to one side ?

its like they both played who will move first and both lost

but its also said that common sense was not used to avoid it happing to begin with

move to one side if your walking towards them ?

How is that quite a leap? The child did enough damage to cause a suspected broken hip! You don’t think it’s possible the buggy could have gone into the road into traffic?

But if you're elderly or infirm, you can't necessarily hop out of the way. Or if you're watching the traffic or happening to glance away at the wrong moment. I wouldn't be so sure that the person knocked down was playing a game of chicken with the child pushing the pram.

Of course that is harder. If I saw the kid coming towards us - I would have to shout at the parents. I have done that when kids have been on scooters heading for my partner. Course - have been lucky they have listened. I am also a dickhead and a rich one at that, so if some kid does happen to crash into my partner (which I hope never happens) the parents will learn, via the stress I put them through by suing them, to parent their kids. Even if they don’t have a lot of means/ assets - I will bankrupt them. People need to learn actions/ or in action in this example, has consequences.

To be fair - it’s lucky I am a rich dickhead.

Why is that a question? Where have I said it should be up to us as individuals to control what other adults do?

If you're trying to say that no-one can control what careless people do, have a think about the concept of the rule of law.

true but based on the ops saying* *

"the injured person had been walking at a normal pace in the opposite direction"

so based on this they could have avoided the pushchair

I agree.

A lot of parents let children push prams who are just not old enough or sensible enough. I have seen several horrible collisions and near tragedies. One was a child about three or four pushing a baby near some fishponds. The child was too short to even see over the top of the pram to have visibility and smacked the pram into the raised side of the pond. The whole pram tipped forward and it was only by chance a man nearby was quick enough to stop it falling forward into the pond with the baby in it.

See also the "Menace DC" on scooters.

I wouldn't want the child to get in trouble, she is a child after all, but the parents should have kept a better eye on her and stopped her going so fast. It sounds as though they were far too blasé. I'd have been mortified had it been my child.

about the accident and that is awful.

If the pushchair was being pushed erratically then the victim may have been walking to avoid it and the kid steered into her last second

no wonder we live in a world where no one has any regard for others

Exactly this, see my comment.

I had a fall two years ago, I'm still dealing with the injury and can no longer walk fast. Yes falling over is a big deal, it changed my life

I think that poster is a troll or a crazy.
and one can’t reason with a crazy.

Your maths is nonexistent - that doesn't make it an 'everyday occurrence'. I went to A&E last year (not due to falling) - anyone there would have seen me waiting - that doesn't mean I'm there every day, nor that anyone else in there who has had a fall is there regularly.

Looking at the population of my (not large) town, if everyone who lived here had a fall serious enough to need A&E once every two years (unlikely, just choosing this scenario for illustrative purposes) and they each chose a different day of the year to have it, that would mean approximately 850 different people each day in A&E due to having a fall.

Maybe that’s why we have an a&e crisis🙄

@Senso Did you tell the parents that, actually, there was someone to blame and it was them for not assessing whether a busy street was the right place for their DC to be running about with a pushchair? That their failure to parent was the reason that someone was laying on the floor with a potentially nasty injury?

Agreed.

They're a big deal to the person who falls and is seriously injured.
I mean death is pretty common too, but I dare you to tell a bereaved person their loss is "no big deal".

I would imagine that the person injured didn't think it was'hardly a big deal'. The responses on here I would imagine indicate the level of lack of supervision some so-called parents use. One would imagine if the toddler was pushed into the road and was hit by a vehicle that would be the driver's fault. It's hardly surprising that schools have problems with ill-raised children who have never experienced discipline.

Depending on the person’s age and the particular way they fall, the risk of a hip fracture is significant. For women over 50 falling onto the pavement it can range from 1% to over 25%, again depending on age and other particulars.

For all people over 50, the one year death rate after hip fracture is about 30%. Falls can be very serious.

Friday night... they're probably drunk.