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Cost of living. Teens with no jobs

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monkeysox · 16/06/2026 20:06

The whole COL crisis is exacerbated by huge supermarket chains (one example) who are making huge profits. They don't employ as many young people (automation) so the cost of the kid's needs falls on the parents who have huge bills themselves.
I always had a Saturday or evening job.
Businesses aren't hiring nearly as much as 30 years ago.
Aibu?

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browneyes77 · 18/06/2026 16:54

legotoe · 18/06/2026 10:02

And the last sentence is why sixth-formers can no longer get work. Back in the day, you would be recruited by Iceland to work every Saturday 9-6. That's it.

But now flexibility to be available to cover a wide variety of (changing?) shifts is key to recruitment decisions. And those at school/college can't give that flexibility. It's rare to see a "8 hour Saturday shift" advertised anywhere now.

No, it doesn’t mean that.

We offer part time shifts starting from 7.5 hours.

And weekends are where we need the flexibility. Someone who can work Saturdays is far more likely to be offered a role than someone who can only work on a Wednesday.

legotoe · 18/06/2026 17:03

browneyes77 · 18/06/2026 16:54

No, it doesn’t mean that.

We offer part time shifts starting from 7.5 hours.

And weekends are where we need the flexibility. Someone who can work Saturdays is far more likely to be offered a role than someone who can only work on a Wednesday.

Well that's great, but is not what your post said ("The more flexible you are to work different days, the more likely you are to get a job with us.")

browneyes77 · 18/06/2026 17:08

legotoe · 18/06/2026 17:03

Well that's great, but is not what your post said ("The more flexible you are to work different days, the more likely you are to get a job with us.")

My post didn’t say what you claimed either….

legotoe · 18/06/2026 17:19

browneyes77 · 18/06/2026 17:08

My post didn’t say what you claimed either….

Please help me out then, what did you mean by "The more flexible you are to work different days, the more likely you are to get a job with us" mean in relation to how easy (or otherwise) it is for sixth-formers to get a job?

Level1469 · 18/06/2026 18:04

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BrookStreamRiverlet · 18/06/2026 18:21

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But they still want the cheaper food and other groceries supermarkets sell.

Level1469 · 18/06/2026 18:37

They have no choice, BrookStreamRiverlet. Plus you get what you pay for and have no control over quality.

People have lost the housekeeping skills their grandmothers had. Like hell would my gran have paid 12.50 for a shrinkwrapped piece of meat from god knows where, sold by a beeping machine with zero human interaction except to take the antitheft tag off.

Hate supermarkets and wouldn't want my teen working in one, people think this is normal but it's a horrible way to live.

Allonthesametrain · 18/06/2026 19:26

A couple of teens put out a post offering garden services, basics such as mowing, weeding, cleaning up. They were inundated with offers and people admired their initiative. They're doing brilliantly, post their work and getting great reviews. Xxx

browneyes77 · 18/06/2026 19:34

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And nobody gives a shit about you talking bullshit about things you clearly have no clue about.

You are incorrect. Suck it up buttercup.

browneyes77 · 18/06/2026 19:36

legotoe · 18/06/2026 17:19

Please help me out then, what did you mean by "The more flexible you are to work different days, the more likely you are to get a job with us" mean in relation to how easy (or otherwise) it is for sixth-formers to get a job?

Ok I’ll enlighten you.

If you want full time hours, then the more flexible you are to work on different days, the better.

If you want part time hours, the more flexible you are to work weekends, the better.

Badbadbunny · 18/06/2026 19:41

BrookStreamRiverlet · 18/06/2026 16:45

No it isn’t claiming avocados are carrots. Staff are still on the shop floor restocking shelves or picking internet orders. They have been told not to intervene - I guess because an injury claim by staff would be a lot higher than the lost groceries. Some of it is apparently incredibly blatant - gangs just pushing full trolleys out past the checkouts and the people staffing them.

Gangs doing that would still do if checkouts were all manned - it's not self service checkouts.

XenoBitch · 18/06/2026 19:52

BrookStreamRiverlet · 18/06/2026 18:21

But they still want the cheaper food and other groceries supermarkets sell.

Yeah, pay £1 for a branded bottle of bleach in Tesco, or nearly £3 for the same in a local shop.

BringBackCatsEyes · 18/06/2026 19:53

browneyes77 · 18/06/2026 19:36

Ok I’ll enlighten you.

If you want full time hours, then the more flexible you are to work on different days, the better.

If you want part time hours, the more flexible you are to work weekends, the better.

Your post was not clear and I understand what @legotoe is saying.

Level1469 · 18/06/2026 20:02

browneyes77 · 18/06/2026 19:34

And nobody gives a shit about you talking bullshit about things you clearly have no clue about.

You are incorrect. Suck it up buttercup.

Classic!

Beautifully proving my point about the IQ and horrible manners of many supermarket staff.

suburburban · 18/06/2026 20:02

Cyco · 18/06/2026 09:44

Not necessarily. They are getting the jobs because hirers of the same ethnicity are exploiting the rule of "if you can't find someone in the UK who can do this, you are allowed to sponsor a foreigner on a work visa". So the boss, after rejecting all local candidates, says "Boo hoo, I can't find anyone ... so I'll bring in my cousin's mate from Bangalore".
It's not just the UK. This has been happening wholesale in Silicon Valley for years now. Pretty please, do your basic research before you make these assertions on the delusional assumption that all Mumsnetters are as disingenuous as you are.

Imagine if people of English origin did this

it has all gone very wrong

legotoe · 18/06/2026 20:11

browneyes77 · 18/06/2026 19:36

Ok I’ll enlighten you.

If you want full time hours, then the more flexible you are to work on different days, the better.

If you want part time hours, the more flexible you are to work weekends, the better.

So your concluding sentence I was commenting on (that Iceland looks for "flexibility to work different days") only applies to those looking for full-time work, and not the sixth-formers this thread is talking about. That wasn't clear to me.

frozendaisy · 18/06/2026 20:34

BrookStreamRiverlet · 18/06/2026 18:21

But they still want the cheaper food and other groceries supermarkets sell.

Exactly
And want the other products cheaper online delivered to their house

Collectively as consumers we all play a part in the decline of the high street. Supermarkets didn’t help but they didn’t destroy the high street not like Amazon has. Before online the high street adapted, smaller shops sold what the supermarkets didn’t.

But versus the price and convenience of online.

And who doesn’t shop online, look about for the best price, especially bigger purchases even if you go to a store to actually buy it. If you want a winter coat you know as you walk into M&S what coat you want.

It’s got nothing to do with grandma’s skills. Nothing.

Rhaenys · 18/06/2026 21:01

The interview process for supermarket jobs is ridiculous as well. People shouldn’t have go through a 3 stage interview process for an unskilled job that pays minimum wage.

XenoBitch · 18/06/2026 21:12

Rhaenys · 18/06/2026 21:01

The interview process for supermarket jobs is ridiculous as well. People shouldn’t have go through a 3 stage interview process for an unskilled job that pays minimum wage.

This too. I know someone who took supermarket cleaning job, and had to do a group interview. He cleans the store once it is closed.
Add to the the psychometric tests that tend to filter out anyone with ND, again for any supermarket job, not just the higher paid roles.

Badbadbunny · 19/06/2026 12:43

XenoBitch · 18/06/2026 19:52

Yeah, pay £1 for a branded bottle of bleach in Tesco, or nearly £3 for the same in a local shop.

Trouble is that the "local shop" will be paying around £2.50 for that bleach so they need to sell at £3. It's not a level playing field. The likes of Tesco get massive discounts due to the sheer buying power, plus retro discounts plus contributions from suppliers for prime shelf space etc.

Badbadbunny · 19/06/2026 12:51

@frozendaisy

Collectively as consumers we all play a part in the decline of the high street. Supermarkets didn’t help but they didn’t destroy the high street not like Amazon has. Before online the high street adapted, smaller shops sold what the supermarkets didn’t.

Small shop/High Street demise started LONG before online shopping.

In our small town, we got a huge out of town Asda early 90s and within a couple of years our "High street" was dead. We'd previously had an M&S, Woolworths, Tesco, Argos in our town centre, and all closed. As I say, long before the internet.

Same happened in other towns that we frequented. Then of course, these towns got a second and third out of town supermarket which killed off the remaining town centre shops that had managed to survive until then.

Obviously, the internet has killed off lots of other shops, large and small, that managed to survive the onslaught of out of town retail parks and supermarkets in maybe "naicer" towns with wealthier populations who wanted more "niche" products from small shops.

Our family had a typical newsagents shop on a parade of several shops including butcher, greengrocer, grocer, chemist, post office, hardware shop, bakers. When a whopping great Asda opened up around 1993 a couple of miles away, these shops closed one by one, until we were the last shop standing and ours had to close in 1997. Nothing to do with the internet!

Different High Streets suffered at different times. Your's may have survived until the internet shopping took over, but ours was long gone a couple of decades before!

ImGoneUnderground · 19/06/2026 20:29

Yellowshirt · 16/06/2026 20:58

How the government do not understand that the minimum wage is costing jobs is beyond me.
2 pubs a week are closing in the uk at the moment. Minimum wage, taxes and business rates are to high.
It would also help if they lowered the retirement age. That would help pensioners and youngsters.

I was going to say exactly the same about continuously raising the retirement age, which forces many older people to continue working whether they want to or not, rather than 'free up' vacancies in some, maybe not all, professions. There used to be schemes where an employer could even claim grants to cover the first few months of a younger persons salary to help cover costs of training.
It must be so disheartening when a young person, in fact anyone, wants to work but just cannot find work.

HutchMadras · 20/06/2026 08:20

user1492757084 · 16/06/2026 20:19

Could your kids start a lawn mowing and garden trimming service?

Trouble is there are tons of kids doing this already, at least where I live, as well as adults. Supermarkets no longer hire checkout operatives and when there are hours the rotas are terrible, like 20 hours a week over 4 days for example. My eldest son ts 28 and hasn't worked since a temp job at Christmas last. he's applied for hundreds and hardly ever gets a response, it is so disheartening.

BringBackCatsEyes · 20/06/2026 08:34

Badbadbunny · 19/06/2026 12:43

Trouble is that the "local shop" will be paying around £2.50 for that bleach so they need to sell at £3. It's not a level playing field. The likes of Tesco get massive discounts due to the sheer buying power, plus retro discounts plus contributions from suppliers for prime shelf space etc.

I think we all understand this.

Paul2023 · 20/06/2026 14:44

I just heard that Beefeater and Brewers Fayre restaurants are closing. That’s alot of jobs, and many young people without work.
Sad because they are ideal for families.

I can’t think of many other family friendly restaurants.

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