The correlation between smartphones and delayed reproduction part 2

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Last thread ran out of pages.

It would appear the birth rate in India has also decreased when it used to be super high (hence having a billion people)
CRED founder Kunal shah seems to agree internet may have played its part.

As for the posters adamant that nothing had changed in the uk in the last 25 years and claiming they didn’t know anyone who had children at 25 back then. Here’s some statistics for you:

United Kingdom (England and Wales): Exact cohort data tracks that 33% of women born in 1972 (who turned 29 in 2001) had at least one child by age 25. For the cohort turning 25 exactly in 2001 (born in 1976), childbearing hit a generational low point, where fewer than 30% of women had given birth by their 25th birthday.

So if nothing had changed about 60 out of 200 people I went to school with would have had kids by now

Many were on my last thread claiming that barely anyone had kids before 25 decades ago and acting like nothing has changed. Which is obviously complete bullshit.

I do think I explained my op on the last thread better I’m more wondering what the different theories on this could be because obviously it’s not JUST phones/internet but I do personally believe they’ve probably paid an understated part. Up their with increased rent prices and less stigma around abortions

You’re also now quoting AI statistics 😅

Tell me who that “cohort” are OP? Do they include women in remote regions of Africa? And none of the cohort could possibly have had smart phones so yet a load more fucking nonsense.

Maybe take up a GCSE and learn a bit about stats

It’s not complete bullshit. Jesus wept. Gonna have to hide the thread. Can’t take any more of this utter drivel 🤪😂😂

Men play a 50% part. What’s the stats on them?
Why is a lower birth rate portrayed as a negative thing? Almost like a disappointment or failure?

OP are you sure you aren’t doing a research project on this?! It’s such an odd hypothesis to keep pursuing.

Do you ever think you wouldn’t haven’t such a narrow view of the world if you hadn’t had children to young?

People trying to tell me that 30 decades ago barely anyone they knew had kids before 30 let alone 25 was statistically bullshit. And even if it was true for them has no more validity than me mentioning my mother’s experience of almost everyone she knew having kids by 25, which was mocked.

Can’t think of anything worse than wasting the young free fun years of your life on a kid. 16 year olds shouldn’t be having kids anyway, sounds like a safeguarding issue

So what if less women are having babies young. It's a good thing, and whether that's because we've got our noses in phones, because we've got our heads screwed on more or any other reason, who cares. It's a good thing. Fewer babies born into poverty. Better chances for women. More babies born into stable relationships. Win. Win.

I think 30 decades ago people were having children very young, what with it being 300 years ago. We might have to dig out the Encyclopaedia Britannia to check.

I absolutely blame useless men who are too busy playing video games in their bedrooms, rather than asking a woman out. It’s unattractive. And many parents are allowing it to continue. Enablers.

Oh damn. Too late to edit lol

They’re not included apparently. The OP knows 200 people and due to her skewed stats they all seem to be women. Though it’s transpired they’re all 300 years old so 😂🤪

I can see why having babies young might have been more popular when property was cheaper or the waiting list for a council house not so long. With the amount of money you need to buy or else the instability of private renting combined with easily available contraception is no surprise people take longer to feel able to start a family. That's just the people that actually want kids, a lot don't.

its definitely been normalised for some men (and women sometimes) to spend hours and sometimes the entire day gaming. Every single day. No judgement if thats what they want to do but it probably isn’t attractive to most people

I do judge though.
Can you imagine in 100 years time, vast swathes of family trees will have ended. No need for “Who Do You Think You Are”.

Surely no parent in their heart of hearts wants their child gaming all day and night. Just another depressing addiction. And unattractive to boot.

Here you go OP - this is why PPs were not talking BS:

https://www.parliament.uk/business/publications/research/olympic-britain/population/have-kids-settle-down/

I suspect a quick google will reveal more but all will need critical appraisal.

A quick google reveals this:

In 1938, the average age of a first-time mother in England and Wales was 25.9 years. For context, the average age of all mothers at childbirth across all birth orders was slightly higher at 29.0 years.

People are trying to insult my intelligence while not understanding the difference between first time birth and birth in general. The clue being women had way more children back then, starting early and finishing late.

1938 😂 bless you

In all seriousness what does anyone expect. OP had a baby at 16, she wasn't exactly studying for her GCSEs.

Read again:
”But the average age of women at first birth today (29.6) is not very different to what it was in 1938 (29.0)”

Maybe seeing your experience put them off?

On the rare occasion we see it happen, there are often girls who say after seeing the physical, emotional and practical side of being a very young parent that they thought it would be great, but now, no way are they doing that to themselves.

The year that is mentioned in the link she posted

It is not phones. As I am 50, I was young adult 1995 onwards...simply did not want to end up with a typical man from my own country lol, to live in a house with his parents and bear his mother and cook her recipees and bla bla

I studied, worked, travelled Europe and married here at the age of 35. Not sorry for it all

sorry but having kids under 28 is a sheer loss of valuable years to see what adult life is all about, make up your mind on many topics etc. You can always conceive a child if you have a decent partner. But having kids with abusive man, no, thank you very much.