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AIBU to think parents will break the social media rules for summerborn children’s GCSE revision?

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SummerAutumnborn · Yesterday 21:27

So as a parent of a September born child my child will be able to access YouTube educational videos before their GCSEs start. Some of these resources are excellent.

Their best friend (August born) will not be able to access any videos before the GCSEs start unless their parents break the rules.

At A-Level my child will have unlimited access their best friend won’t - a problem for kids who access sports clubs in the evening and want to revise before bed.

Summer borns have an educational disadvantage anyway - will this widen the gap further? Here is a BBC article from a few years ago.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-23435439

Am I being unreasonable thinking parents who agree with the SM ban will break the rules if it disadvantages their summer born child?

Out of interest for those of you who do support the social media ban are you going to say to your child that they cannot access exam resources on YouTube and X even if they are better than school and BBC resources? Or when it comes to an educational advantage will you find it acceptable to break the rules and allow access?

I disagree with the ban btw so would have no issue if it affected my child.

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GETTINGLIKEMYMOTHER · Yesterday 22:15

They can use BBC Bitesize, and what’s wrong with the masses of revision guide publications that are available in almost any bookshop?

Wincher · Yesterday 22:18

I agree - my 15 year old has just finished his GCSEs and has basically taught himself the whole science curriculum from Free Science Lessons on YouTube. His class hasn’t had a science teacher since about Christmas of year 10 and have had a succession of subs teaching random different stuff every lesson. YouTube has been a complete lifesaver for him - the way that guy explains everything suits DS.

However as others have said kids will still be able to watch videos, just not have their own accounts. Only thing is we kept meaning to get YouTube premium to avoid the ads (haven’t got round to it) and so obviously a kid couldn’t have that - so will see more ads.

What I think is even more ridiculous is a 17 year old not being able to go on social media after 8.30 at night… not quite sure if that will end up happening but it does seem crazy!

Tryagain26 · Yesterday 22:19

There are much better ways to revise than YouTube.
And the Government has already said there will be exceptions for education. If the education content in YouTube is so good it can move to one of the excepted sites.
Some people have completely misunderstood what the ban is about. The onus will be on social media sites to restrict access. There won't be a law that bans parents from using their log in so their child can watch a revision video!

AlcoholicAntibiotic · Yesterday 22:20

GETTINGLIKEMYMOTHER · Yesterday 22:15

They can use BBC Bitesize, and what’s wrong with the masses of revision guide publications that are available in almost any bookshop?

Some people retain information more from watching things than reading things.

Does BBC Bitesize cover everything and explain things in multiple different ways?

NameChangeForTheWeek · Yesterday 22:21

SummerAutumnborn · Yesterday 21:27

So as a parent of a September born child my child will be able to access YouTube educational videos before their GCSEs start. Some of these resources are excellent.

Their best friend (August born) will not be able to access any videos before the GCSEs start unless their parents break the rules.

At A-Level my child will have unlimited access their best friend won’t - a problem for kids who access sports clubs in the evening and want to revise before bed.

Summer borns have an educational disadvantage anyway - will this widen the gap further? Here is a BBC article from a few years ago.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-23435439

Am I being unreasonable thinking parents who agree with the SM ban will break the rules if it disadvantages their summer born child?

Out of interest for those of you who do support the social media ban are you going to say to your child that they cannot access exam resources on YouTube and X even if they are better than school and BBC resources? Or when it comes to an educational advantage will you find it acceptable to break the rules and allow access?

I disagree with the ban btw so would have no issue if it affected my child.

X is a fucking cesspit

PenelopeJoanSterling · Yesterday 22:21

SummerAutumnborn · Yesterday 21:30

And if the material is better on YouTube/TikTok? At present we have no idea what will happen but assuming the best material is on YouTube - which I believe it currently is (the bbc is rubbish in comparison).

just use opera vpn browser and bingo

Gettingaggy · Yesterday 22:21

AlcoholicAntibiotic · Yesterday 22:20

Some people retain information more from watching things than reading things.

Does BBC Bitesize cover everything and explain things in multiple different ways?

If they learn better from YouTube videos they will still be able to watch YouTube videos. There is no ban on watching YouTube videos.

SadiraOfTyr · Yesterday 22:22

What rules do you think parents will break? The proposed regulations impose duties on social media companies, not on users.

Tauranga · Yesterday 22:23

Totallyfrazzledmum · Yesterday 21:30

You can revise for GCSEs without YouTube …. There are other websites and paper & pen worked for 100s of years.

How utterly useless this post os.

Tauranga · Yesterday 22:24

ProudCat · Yesterday 21:30

Teacher here. Videos aren't very good for revision.

Unless you are dyslexic.
Or prefer videos.

What a ridiculous conclusion!

drunkelephant83 · Yesterday 22:24

Don’t you just press ‘watch as guest’ no sign in needed

Gettingaggy · Yesterday 22:25

Tauranga · Yesterday 22:24

Unless you are dyslexic.
Or prefer videos.

What a ridiculous conclusion!

And they will still be able to watch the videos. There is no ban on watching YouTube videos. The ban is on having their own account. You don’t need an account to access revision videos. So dyslexic people and people who prefer videos don’t need to worry!

Tauranga · Yesterday 22:26

Calmestofallthechickens · Yesterday 21:47

I’d be really surprised if YouTube revision videos actually confer a statistically significant competitive advantage in exams. I suspect the negative effects on attention span would more than even the playing field!

I have two summer born children and I think the fact they will potentially have 11 months more social-media-free studying and revision time than their peers is a massive positive. Nothing to stop me showing them videos on YouTube if it was actually a brilliant educational resource, but it is not.

It is, for many kids, with dyslexia especially.

But you don't think so, so assume you are correct.

I can't believe the confidence of these posters.

Anarchy99 · Yesterday 22:28

YABU if you think for a single minute the ban will last, Either the parents will still allow it or the kids will circumvent it.

The law wouldn’t be necessary if parents were willing or able to control their children’s use of social media in these days of smartphones.

Needmorelego · Yesterday 22:28

I didn't know you had to sign in to watch YouTube.
If I just type in something to Google that I want to watch a video of sometimes the video is a YouTube one so I just click on it and watch.
🤷

Tauranga · Yesterday 22:28

Octavia64 · Yesterday 21:57

Watching videos is not a useful revision strategy.

in the same way that reading the textbook is not a good revision strategy.

what works is;

knowing what topics you need to revise and which ones you are secure on (mostly comes from end of year 10 exams and mocks analysis).

there is no benefit to watching a video in a topic you can already do and get full marks in any question on it.

good revision is focused on topics you are less secure on and usually involves actively doing stuff - doing questions, writing answers, and then checking them against the markscheme.

not watching videos.

Crikey. Another pile of rubbish spouted with such confidence.

AlcoholicAntibiotic · Yesterday 22:29

Needmorelego · Yesterday 22:28

I didn't know you had to sign in to watch YouTube.
If I just type in something to Google that I want to watch a video of sometimes the video is a YouTube one so I just click on it and watch.
🤷

You don’t at the moment.

I’m not sure how it will work after the ban comes in. There seems to be remarkably little actual detail (at least not that I’ve been able to find).

Actnaturally · Yesterday 22:30

BBC bitesize was exciting 28 years ago, but have you looked on there lately? It’s dire compared to some of the other stuff I’ve seen on SM.

Of course you can get through a GCSE course without watching a video if you want, but if you’re dismissing all video content, you haven’t understood what’s available. In the subject I teach, for example, video walkthroughs of past papers is an invaluable revision resource. And there’s some great TikTok videos explaining concepts in really engaging ways. YouTube and TikTok act as platforms bringing lots of creators together, and allowing students to find what works for them. It’s so short sighted to completely dismiss such a huge technological advance.

StraightTalkingTina · Yesterday 22:31

I support the ban.

And will continue to enable supervised access to meaningful and educational content, via my controlled accounts and devices.

Gladystheimpaler · Yesterday 22:32

BBC bitesize for all subjects, or Khan academy for maths, are both free. Social media is bad for kids' mental health. There are so many resources you do not need to give kids access to social media, regardless of when in tne year they were born.

ToffeeCrabApple · Yesterday 22:33

My niece is on track for fab gcses and hasn't been revising on screens.

Besides if there's really essential material, other sites will pop up that are education focused which will host the content & aren't hit by the ban as likely won't:

  • be driven by algorithms designed to hook kids in
  • be geared to maximise profit by making your child spend as long as possible on there
  • be trying to drive traffic by offering more extreme content to young people like anorexia kids & inappropriate sexual stuff.
Tauranga · Yesterday 22:34

GETTINGLIKEMYMOTHER · Yesterday 22:15

They can use BBC Bitesize, and what’s wrong with the masses of revision guide publications that are available in almost any bookshop?

People are all different. Do you think there would be so many revision videos os they were not popular?

StraightTalkingTina · Yesterday 22:34

Anarchy99 · Yesterday 22:28

YABU if you think for a single minute the ban will last, Either the parents will still allow it or the kids will circumvent it.

The law wouldn’t be necessary if parents were willing or able to control their children’s use of social media in these days of smartphones.

At the moment it is the social media firms themselves who will be targets by any new legislation.

a parent can provide controlled access, and the child can still be presented with inappropriate content.

the only people who can stop that is the platform owners, or the makers of smartphones.

we’ll have to see what they come up with.

ToffeeCrabApple · Yesterday 22:35

StraightTalkingTina · Yesterday 22:31

I support the ban.

And will continue to enable supervised access to meaningful and educational content, via my controlled accounts and devices.

This. Young people don't need personal access or accounts on unsupervised phones & tablets. If there's valuable educational material their parents will happily allow them to access it via their own devices.

Shoola · Yesterday 22:36

ProudCat · Yesterday 21:30

Teacher here. Videos aren't very good for revision.

There are some really great teachers on you tube. You are missing a trick.

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