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Typical woman driving a car too big for her

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Lewqa · 15/06/2026 13:36

That’s what my work colleague (a woman) said whilst sat next to me this morning when I gave her a lift in. We were waiting to pass a car (SUV) in the work car park where the driver was taking a while to park, lining it up etc.

I have heard this sentiment before from others, it’s not the first time.

AIBU for saying that men are just as bad as women when it comes to their driving/parking ability with these bigger cars?

OP posts:
k1233 · 15/06/2026 23:12

MrsTerryPratchett · 15/06/2026 14:02

Yes and I’m very clearly not talking about you. I used to work for Landrover and when I did you were vastly outnumbered by the idiots getting stuck in off road mode on High Street Ken. If you live somewhere rural, of course more people need them. But cities are clogged up by SUV people who haven’t seen a horse in decades.

It used to be a rule that Defenders were driven by people who needed a 4x4 and everything else was driven by someone who didn’t. Those days are gone but there are a lot of people in Jaguar and Porsche SUVs who only see fields on their way to Cornwall for hollibobs.

Where I live someone uses their porsche suv to tow their horse. Never knew porsches could tow a decent weight before I saw that.

I think a lot of people have poor driving skills. I grew up swapping between many farm vehicles so am used to driving lots of different sizes. I would go from my excel to driving a friends landcruiser and horse float with no issues in size perception. But that's lots of practise.

Around where I grew up the driving issues were from male drivers wearing hats. And don't get me started on the oversized, penis compensators in cities. SUVs are fine but American supersized things are just ridiculous. There is one where I park who tries to squish his penile compensator into a reserved spot marked for small cars. Hangs out into the car park traffic like a womble.

k1233 · 15/06/2026 23:23

bozzabollix · 15/06/2026 22:21

As a driving instructor I salute you for this.

Sadly many of the teenage girls I get can’t steer. Socialisation means that they’ve never got on a go kart or driven bumper cars. Girls are not pushed in that direction.

Personally I’d love to start a campaign to promote pre driving skills for girls and build confidence in women driving, but I’ve got too many learners to make it happen!

Go karts are the best. Dad tried to teach us to drive when I was 9 but we were a bit too short. So he built us a go kart and would grade tracks in the house paddock for us or we would put the grass tyres on (ie bald) and fang around on the wet lawn and clover doing slides and circle work. Cannot say how many times when driving cars that I've had to rely on the go kart skills. For example I was driving a road I always drove, doing 80 km/hr (signed limit). On a big, sweeping corner felt one back tyre slip, then felt the other slide and was a wee bit sideways. Had to straighten up before the other side of the corner due to the guard rail starting. Cue go kart sliding skills kicking in. Many people would have fallen off the road.

I think everyone should do go karts as it's great practise for steering, accelerating and stopping.

DrRylandGrace · 16/06/2026 01:27

malware · 15/06/2026 21:39

I would love to drive a car that was the right size for me (5 foot). So I could turn round and see out of the back window like my husband does. So that I could comfortably have a seatbelt on that didn't rest on my neck. A seat, steering wheels, knobs that egonomically fit someone of my size.

But that car doesn't exist. Because the default size is average man size.
But we have an SUV with 360 cameras and a high driving position. And that's pretty good.

Edited

Have you considered a booster seat? I think they are still recommended for children who are the same height as you.

DrRylandGrace · 16/06/2026 01:36

bozzabollix · 15/06/2026 22:31

Doing all of those road types would be absolutely ideal but in reality isn’t workable. Some test centres have no motorways near them for example.

The test is stringent, and they are currently hard to come by for 17yo’s, so they certainly won’t open them out to retest full licence holders even if some are awful.

I know they won’t. The DVLA is a joke. Nonetheless, the reason there are so many poor drivers on the roads are that a) the standard to pass a driving test is so low; and b) there are not periodic re-tests with licences removed from those who fail.

I have just read the most recent comments. People saying they can’t properly see around their car and so don’t have a sufficient awareness of its size to park it conpetently, yet they still drive it?! If they cannot see sufficiently to park it how will they see if a child walks out in front of them when driving?! And blaming their height when many women (who are not all some kind of alien species of giant woman!) competently drive lorries. Ridiculous.

Ultimately anyone who knows they cannot safely drive on a motorway (the easiest and simplest and safest driving) or is scared to change lanes or drive over 40mph or pull out at a busy roundabout or who is scared by the idea of driving in a busy city/ on rural roads or through mountains/ can’t reverse on a single track road or park competently/ can’t cope with busy traffic at higher volumes than existed in 1970 or any combination of the above should know they are not sufficiently confident and safe to be on the roads or react to unexpected circumstances as they arise and therefore should refrain from driving unsupervised even if the DLA has, bafflingly, issued them a licence. Or their friends/ family members should intervene and stop them causing inconvenience (at best) or substantial risks to others.

LlynTegid · 16/06/2026 06:49

@DrRylandGrace I'd add to your list of the useless DVLA and other failings, the courts not banning everyone who should be. There is no other crime where hardship from a sanction or punishment means a lesser one.

Savagemummy · 16/06/2026 22:46

I am 5'3, female and the proud owner and driver of a ford transit custom (family of 6 so need the space! Especially when the oldest little bring friends along!) I have double pram, usually shopping think Mary Poppins handbag but a van🤣

I love it when i get the 'vehicle is too big for a woman' comments . . . A gentleman kindly pointed this out to me as i reversed into a parent a child space last week actually! He was promptly told to keep his comments to himself, as i actually drive lorries for a living so he should be grateful i hadnt arrived in my T-cab!

Robyn847 · 17/06/2026 01:22

I go to church. On Sunday mornings the carpark, which has no white lines, is sensibly filled and cars parked 'normally'. There's nothing out of the ordinary to notice. Sunday is the day when families arrive together and it's typically the men who drive, or the men arrive first, by themselves to set up chairs, drumkits, audio equipment etc early.

On Thursday evenings, when it's the women's meeting, there's about a 3rd less cars fitted on the carpark because each car leaves a MASSIVE gap between it and the next car. Cars are wonky. Car aren't fully pulled in to the wall. Theres usually someone blocking the exit gate. And someone else parked so that chances of anyone doing a 3-point turn is impossible. There'll also be a car parked in the entrance, supposedly close to the wall but so far out it looks like it's just been dumped.

Tuesdays when Knitting club is on are exactly the same. Cars parked like a tornado passed through and people just stopped and ran for their lives. When it's the Mens meeting it's neat and organised and they managed to park to actual capacity, the same as it is on Sundays.

You could show me a photo of the carpark and I could tell you what meeting is on.

Daylight? Shit parking? Its must be Tuesday afternoon and knitting club.
Twilight? Neatly parked? Must be Mens club which makes it a Tue evening.

It makes me embarrassed to be female.

mathanxiety · 17/06/2026 03:49

I thought opinions like that had died a death in 1978. Apparently old-fashioned sexism and internalised misogyny live on.

mathanxiety · 17/06/2026 03:51

LlynTegid · 16/06/2026 06:49

@DrRylandGrace I'd add to your list of the useless DVLA and other failings, the courts not banning everyone who should be. There is no other crime where hardship from a sanction or punishment means a lesser one.

Yes there is.

Remember the boys recently convicted of rape?

timeserved · 17/06/2026 04:27

Massive cars have become "a thing" around here, I have an XC90 which I thought was big, but it is dwarfed by some of the monstrosities on the roads today. You can tell the people driving them male or female have no idea what they are doing wrt road position, maneuvering or where the corners are.

HelmholtzWatson · 17/06/2026 05:33

One of the largest and most reliable sex differences is visuospatial abilities and skills, hence why men tend to be better at parking cars, reading maps and so on.

Littlepog · 17/06/2026 22:47

HelmholtzWatson · 17/06/2026 05:33

One of the largest and most reliable sex differences is visuospatial abilities and skills, hence why men tend to be better at parking cars, reading maps and so on.

That is only half a story.

‘Men, on average, score higher on specific visuospatial tests like mental rotation and cardinal navigation, this does not translate to them being better drivers overall. Driving encompasses much more than spatial orientation; safety, awareness, and decision-making are just as critical.’

‘The evidence shows that the worst drivers are novice drivers and old drivers who lose their abilities to judge speed, distance and space.’

‘Women tend to be less confident in their driving abilities whereas men are over confident and have poor impulse control.’

’it is an absolute fact that men cause many more accidents than women, which are more likely to be fatal.’

There’s been many studies on this. Google exists if you want to read them
in full to discover the nuances.

AgentPidge · 17/06/2026 22:54

BringBackCatsEyes · 15/06/2026 14:17

Oh crap….[makes hasty exit].
I don’t pass the “Waitrose test”

Me neither.
I shop at Waitrose and my (small) car is 20 years old this year. Maybe I have more cash to spend on nice food because I bought a small, old car that's cheap to run?

HelmholtzWatson · 18/06/2026 06:04

Littlepog · 17/06/2026 22:47

That is only half a story.

‘Men, on average, score higher on specific visuospatial tests like mental rotation and cardinal navigation, this does not translate to them being better drivers overall. Driving encompasses much more than spatial orientation; safety, awareness, and decision-making are just as critical.’

‘The evidence shows that the worst drivers are novice drivers and old drivers who lose their abilities to judge speed, distance and space.’

‘Women tend to be less confident in their driving abilities whereas men are over confident and have poor impulse control.’

’it is an absolute fact that men cause many more accidents than women, which are more likely to be fatal.’

There’s been many studies on this. Google exists if you want to read them
in full to discover the nuances.

’it is an absolute fact that men cause many more accidents than women, which are more likely to be fatal.’

Men also drive a lot more than women. When you control for mile driven, Women are involved in more accidents than men.

sugarandcyanide · 18/06/2026 07:26

There are too many massive cars now, it's one of my number one driving peeves. Doesn't matter if it's a man or a woman, if your car is so big that you struggle to drive down narrow roads or park it it's too big.

I'm excellent at reversing though, better than my husband! Years of living somewhere with no parking was good experience.

Littlepog · 18/06/2026 08:23

HelmholtzWatson · 18/06/2026 06:04

’it is an absolute fact that men cause many more accidents than women, which are more likely to be fatal.’

Men also drive a lot more than women. When you control for mile driven, Women are involved in more accidents than men.

‘Yes, male drivers in the UK cover more miles than women—typically driving around 60% more per year. However, increased mileage alone does not explain the higher accident rate. Statistical analysis shows that men are still significantly more likely to be involved in serious or fatal collisions per mile driven due to behavioural factors. 1, 2, 3]’

Citations
University of Westminster, DK law and Fleet alliance.

HelmholtzWatson · 19/06/2026 05:11

Littlepog · 18/06/2026 08:23

‘Yes, male drivers in the UK cover more miles than women—typically driving around 60% more per year. However, increased mileage alone does not explain the higher accident rate. Statistical analysis shows that men are still significantly more likely to be involved in serious or fatal collisions per mile driven due to behavioural factors. 1, 2, 3]’

Citations
University of Westminster, DK law and Fleet alliance.

Now do all collisions and not just serious or fatal 🙄

HorrorPudding · 19/06/2026 07:20

DrRylandGrace · 15/06/2026 21:05

It may be a shock to some of the country bumpkins but people who don’t live in the back of beyond can still have good reasons for purchasing a large car. E.g. needing to cart lots of kid/ baby/ camping stuff on trips or going on holiday by car across Europe to self-catering accommodation where they need to take quite a lot of things for 2 or 3 weeks, people who have hobbies like cycling or surfing so need to fit large sports equipment into their cars even if they live in a town or city, people who have multiple children and need to fit multiple isofix car seats for safety, people who make long journeys to see family so need a car with sufficient space to travel comfortably with everything they need to take with them, people with small businesses and stock to move around, people with pets to transport as well as children, anybody who might need to do tip runs or go to IKEA etc with children in the car so requires decent boot space, and myriad other reasons, I’m sure.

I do agree though that there are many, many people on the roads who should not have driving licences. I have driven in maybe 15 different countries and it’s the same everywhere: the worst culprits are generally women who seem too terrified of driving to be on the road (so many threads on this website with them admitting this!), certain men in their 20s and 30s who drive recklessly and aggressively yet seem to be convinced that they are excellent drivers, and elderly people who also appear to be convinced that they’re excellent drivers because they drive 20mph under the speed limit in broad daylight and sunshine and are so slow and hesistant that they are often more of a danger than the reckless men who are trying to use their car to compensate for apparent lack of the esteem they feel they deserve when outside the vehicle.

The problem isn’t the type of car, it is that driving tests should be much stricter, repeated at regular intervals, and include motorway driving. Unless you can confidently handle city driving, night driving, country lanes, mountain roads with sheer drops, motorways etc, you should not have a driving licence. The whole point of it is that it’s meant to be varification that you have proved you are safe to handle any road situation, so I do agree that it’s ludicrous that there are people on the roads who cannot even park competently. That said, it’s a lot less dangerous that a lot of the other transgressions.

Edited

@DrRylandGrace learning to drive in Germany involves having to do mandatory driving hours on the Autobahn, country roads, night driving and in different road conditions. There are also requirements to present an official eye test, present a certified first aid certificate and attend a number of in person theory classes. Lessons have to be with a proper instructor, not a parent sharing their bad habits! The practical test is stringent.

However, this doesn’t translate into safer roads as the U.K. consistently outperforms Germany on deaths per 100,000 population according to the International Transport Forum report of 2025 (and another source I now can’t find). Lots of factors could account for that, for example, they have better driver discipline on motorways, we have lower speed limits, we have a higher limit for alcohol but drink driving has more rigorous policing in the U.K. and stigma is more severe here. In both countries men are better at killing themselves in cars which is not simply a case of doing more miles. No country is keeping stats for who can’t park a Range Rover in Waitrose.

This study is interesting. Women don’t come out of it that well in terms of causing accidents and clearly don’t come out of serious accidents that well due to safety features built for men and because they are much more likely to be driving small cars.

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HorrorPudding · 19/06/2026 07:34

Sorry, bad link in my post. It was a Loughborough University study titled Male and Female car drivers - differences in collision and injury risk.

Weekmindedfool · 19/06/2026 07:37

HelmholtzWatson · 17/06/2026 05:33

One of the largest and most reliable sex differences is visuospatial abilities and skills, hence why men tend to be better at parking cars, reading maps and so on.

Yup

Weekmindedfool · 19/06/2026 07:42

You might not like it but there is some truth to it. I’ve directly observed numerous women struggling with their “big car” vs noticeably fewer men.

AzureCats · 19/06/2026 08:14

Imo men tend to be more reckless drivers and women tend to be nervous parkers. I'd rather be behind a cautious driver than a reckless one.

FlatCatYellowMat · 19/06/2026 08:58

I once watched in awe as a very well dressed young lady perfectly parallel parked a knackered old range rover into a spot that I could have sworn you'd have had to drop it into - she strode straight into the estate agent by it, so I presume she was just expert at parallel parking from long practice.

I've driven cars of any size, frequently with the steering wheel on the wrong side, and never had any issues (although for some reason I'm better at parallel parking on my off side than on the near side)

I've also see a woman in a car park grate her car against the cars on both side, then in panic, also hit the car opposite. I felt nothing but sorry for her TBH, and was in a porsche in a city car park when the driver (male in this case) must have hit every single rim getting round the first turns.

Some people are good at driving, some people are bad at it. I'm not sure the size of the vehicle is the determining factor, although obviously getting a smaller car into a bigger parking space is easier!

TheWickerWoman · 19/06/2026 09:04

YoBetty · 15/06/2026 13:53

At least most men are tall enough to be able to see over the steering wheel of a bloody great 4x4.😂

Some of the absolute worst manoeuvring I've ever seen in my life has been in school and supermarket car parks, and yes, the chief culprits are small women in massive cars.

On the other hand, most of the worst and seriously dangerous driving, overtaking, speeding, cutting up and tailgating I've ever seen has been vehicles driven by men.

Totally agree

frecklejuice · 19/06/2026 09:08

I do nothing to dispel this myth that women are bad drivers, I reversed into a parking space the other day in Tesco and hit the pillar smashing my back light! Man behind me no doubt was saying the same thing!!