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AIBU to insist my daughter is separated from her former bully?

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User636373644333 · 11/06/2026 16:31

Hi all, I’ve not posted a thread ln MN for a long time so please be patient with me.

back story, dd 10 is starting secondary in September. She’s gone to the same primary since reception, for many years there was a girl, dd and this girl used to be really close but I found the girl was often over bearing, intrusive full on, but a lot went over dds head. Fast forward said girl become really nasty and dd definitely started noticing how awful her ‘friend’ could be, I think she was taking any anger she had from home etc out on dd, dd was her only friend and I felt like dd missed out on other friendships as she’s always been a popular member of her class. I posted about the kind of stuff this girl was doing on here 2 or 3 years ago and everyone agreed I wasn’t going mad and yes she was a bully - it wasn’t stereotypical bullying, she was very sly so often school staff didn’t take me seriously. The girls mother was a ‘not my kid’ mum and in her eyes her daughter was never in the wrong. The girl also started bulling other members of the class for various reasons. It got to the point dd was a shell of herself, refusing to go school and ended up with poor self esteem and had to have mental health intervention from a professional because the bullying was bad but the teacher was dismissive. My dd also has some additional needs, the girl preyed on dds vulnerabilities. The bullying was often physical but she’d get away with it saying stamping on dd’s feet was purely accidental (once might be accidental, not several times) or kicking her when sat behind her in class but pretending it was accidental. We all knew it wasn’t. It was also emotional blackmail and bullying. For a young girl this girl was very clever how she got away with it.

anyway, sorry that might be long and apologies for any typos but last year this girl was moved to a nearby school by her mother as her mother thought her daughter was the victim, which in hindsight was great, things settled down, dd has some great friends in her class and generally gets on with everyone.

however, this girl is still living in the same area and very likely going to the same secondary, I couldn’t be certain but I’ve found out today that she is.

Not a surprise she’ll be at the school, but months ago I have told the school numerous times that if this girl is going to the school, they need to be on opposite sides of the school, not in the same lessons and not in the same form group. The senco who I have spoke to (already have ds at the same school!) reassured me they would try their best and I’m sure it will be no problem to keep them out of the same form and lessons at least. I have them plenty of notice to this issue.

but today I found out they are in the same group to have lessons together. I am gutted. Worse being in the same form groups. It’ll be literally every single lesson together. I know some of the other girls in the teaching group will not be happy either as their parents don’t want said girl in the same groups. The kids she’s been put with from her current school is great so I don’t want dd removed, I want the bully put in another group. AIBU?

what am I meant to do? Tell dd to suck it up and hope her old ‘friend’ has grown up a bit?

because they haven’t seen the issues and not started yet I don’t think they see the absolute need for this. Kids fall out but it’s not that, the girl is plain nasty and sly. I am gutted for dd. It might be the difference being going and not going. She already finds school hard!

I feel like the girl would be sly enough to act all nice to start, dd being dd will probably soften and ‘forgive’ her and then it will all go downhill again - I have witnessed this before. I also don’t want dd to lose the solid friendships she has.

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Balloonhearts · 11/06/2026 16:34

Put your foot down and insist. Bullying is hugely damaging, absolutely don't accept that your daughter just has to put up with it. She really doesn't.

I find dealing with schools a lot like dealing with horses. They're lazy. You have to make it less work to just do what you're asking than it is to refuse. Be 'That Parent.'

minipie · 11/06/2026 16:36

I think you can ask for your DD to be moved but not the bully to be moved. That may be unfair but from the school’s perspective the bullying didn’t happen there and they can’t move the other girl without an explanation.

In your shoes I would ask for DD to be moved groups and accept that that means she isn’t with quite such a good gang from previous school. It was just luck that she was with that group anyway.

Genevieva · 11/06/2026 16:37

We had similar with one of our children and the school made sure they weren’t together. By the time they were in Y9, when they were in the same class, it was so long ago it didn’t matter. Also, by that point my daughter was confident and unbothered. The other girl had lost her confidence and my daughter ended up making an effort to support her. She left at the end of Y9 and they’d never have become best friends, but it was lovely seeing the such a positive resolution to what had been a very nasty experience.

Lowandhandhold · 11/06/2026 16:38

Shitty of the school. Ours asks who you want to avoid for these reasons. I’d ask for your daughter to be moved though as you can’t ask them to move someone else!

I wouldn’t worry about leaving her current classmates. A fresh start isn’t a bad thing

User636373644333 · 11/06/2026 17:05

Thanks guys. I also filled in form and added the girls name

generally though, none of the kids no what groups they will be in yet. I only know as I asked the senco at a meeting. So I’m going it can be solved with minimal issues!

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User636373644333 · 11/06/2026 17:08

hoping **

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minipie · 11/06/2026 17:29

Ah ok then you may be able to get her moved IF her parents aren’t yet aware of the groupings. Although I still suspect the school will want to move your DD not the other girl.

JemimaTiggywinkles · 11/06/2026 18:13

So all of the bullying was 2 years ago and the other child has been in a different school since then? Im not sure many schools would be willing to move a different child on your say so, nor based on behaviour from so long ago. My school will take into account what previous schools say but if neither primary backs your version of events it would be wrong of the secondary to treat the other girl as a problem. The school are far more likely to agree to move your child.

It’s also worth bearing in mind that in future it may not be possible to keep them separate. Children are put in particular classes for a whole bunch of reasons and it is difficult for schools to manage ongoing issues, let alone historic ones.

User636373644333 · 11/06/2026 18:22

Thanks. I get that the school can’t just take my word for it, I could just be making it up or exaggerating but I know other parents share the same views and have mentioned it so not just me, I think it’s helped that I now have a positive working relationship with the school with my eldest who is autistic. They know I’m not a nightmare parent and I would have no reason to make it up.

also, although the bullying was 12 months ago at school, they still live nearby so have been some issues outside the school setting. To the point dd would not leave the house, we’d have to drive the 2 minute walk to school just in case the girl was leaving here (we’d have to walk close by) and she stopped playing out or wanting to take the dog out etc.

i know they can’t totally avoid each other but not being in the same lessons will help massively hopefully!

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Wonderones · 11/06/2026 18:26

This could really just be a (rubbish) error.
I'm a HOY 7 and I've had a full on conversation with a parent and assured her I'd keep her children apart...the deputy did the year halves without telling me, and the office sent it out ! Fortunately I realised and I have had it amended and contacted the parent. I would always want to keep a bullied child away from the bully during transition if I could.

User636373644333 · 11/06/2026 18:46

Wonderones · 11/06/2026 18:26

This could really just be a (rubbish) error.
I'm a HOY 7 and I've had a full on conversation with a parent and assured her I'd keep her children apart...the deputy did the year halves without telling me, and the office sent it out ! Fortunately I realised and I have had it amended and contacted the parent. I would always want to keep a bullied child away from the bully during transition if I could.

I appreciate your work load and sometimes things get miscommunicated or forgotten 💗 it happens! I am not mad at anyone for it, just worried sick about what’s to come but I think it’s sorted now! It doesn’t take the full worry away, as there are still potentially going to come across each other and possibly travelling together depending on if I take dd or she goes on the bus and on the girls side too! But not having lessons together will make a massive difference I think!

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Cioccoholic · 11/06/2026 18:51

Your poor dd. I would firmly but politely insist that the school replies on the reason the girls can’t be kept apart in separate classes/lesson groups, and ask if they could possibly revisit the decision.

Wonderones · 11/06/2026 19:01

I would email again as the term starts - perhaps the inset day- to state again you would like them to keep a close eye. Hopefully the other girl has grown up. Your poor dd.

LlynTegid · 11/06/2026 19:04

You insist.

You follow the school complaint procedure if they won't act. Mention words like duty of care etc.

Hope you can get it sorted out.

Beigepjs · 11/06/2026 19:25

A conversation isn't enough.
Email the school the ongoing issues and your preference that they are kept apart.
Mention the previous times that you asked for this.
Insist that you believe that it is in your childs best interests that they are kept apart.

Lay it all out.

Create a detailed paper trail that cannot be denied.
Phone calls are often denied.
An email and clear paper trail far less likely.
Be a nuisance on the matter.

Request the name of the Safe Guarding Lead, and their duty of care.

Mention protecting her well being snd mental health.
Bd prepared to escalate if your wishes aren't followed.

Cornishbelle · 11/06/2026 19:56

I don't blame you at all for being worried and I would absolutely contact school and insist they are separated. It would probably be good to speak to your dd first and explain this could mean she is moved rather than the bully, but you'll try everything you can to get the bully moved. We're in the thick of a similar issue that you and your dd had at primary at the moment, and I've seen first hand the impact this can have. Really hope you can get sorted op

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