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To feel unsettled by the riots in Belfast, Paris and Brussels in the last week?

49 replies

Polkadotpompom · 11/06/2026 13:49

Just as the title says really. It feels like chaos is creeping in. My UK town had riots in 2024 and it's scary to see/experience on your doorstep.

Sometimes I feel terrible that I brought children into the world. It's just an absolute dumpster fire at the moment. 😞

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PlattyCat · 11/06/2026 18:34

Honeyhonay · 11/06/2026 18:10

If you don’t understand a comment you don’t need to reply.

Throwing stones at the police is a common and regular occurrence in NI, the current unrest has much less violence targeted at the police and instead is targeted at civilian property hence the number of police injured is very low and has nothing to do with the number of police injured at BLM riots in London.

Again, my comment wasn’t to you, if you don’t understand it you don’t need to insert yourself.

I've checked the parades commissions most recent report. Approx 2500 parades. Only 5% where deemed contentious, this does not indicate there was trouble but it does include the usual flashpoints.

The Commission reported good compliance across the majority of parades.

So you are most certainly incorrect that "stone throwing is a regular occurrence" at summer marches

NovemberMorn · 11/06/2026 19:33

Stick0rTwist · 11/06/2026 18:14

People are rioting (rightly or wrongly) because they are not being listened to by the government.

These riots haven’t sprung up out of thin air, they are a result of years and years of people feeling ignored. The finger of blame should be pointing at the establishment.

Edited

Exactly this.
Resentment in the UK is brooding, and breeding.
When people can't get the same medical attention they got 50 years ago. When their kids can't get into local schools. when they are paying extortionate rents in dingy houses because they can't afford to buy a decent house because the ones available are used to house people who don't or can't work. When something happens like the Southport murders, Henry Nowaks murder, this latest attempted beheading, not to mention the ever growing information about how grooming rapist gangs were allowed to operate under the noses of authorities for decades, and when governments over the last 20 years have ignored the worries of ordinary people who have contributed to try to make the country they live in safe for their kids....who can really blame the resentment?

Backedoffhackedoff · 11/06/2026 19:35

It’s the rise of fascism.

people have no power and fascism is the default outcome of this helplessness

HotGazpacho · 11/06/2026 19:37

Of course none of this has been fuelled by well paid antagonists seeking to use these horrible acts for their own gain.

Jc2001 · 11/06/2026 19:37

Polkadotpompom · 11/06/2026 13:49

Just as the title says really. It feels like chaos is creeping in. My UK town had riots in 2024 and it's scary to see/experience on your doorstep.

Sometimes I feel terrible that I brought children into the world. It's just an absolute dumpster fire at the moment. 😞

You are not being unreasonable. For some reason people think that smashing up and burning their own neighbourhood will somehow make the world better. Although I suspect most of the people involved are just doing it because they like smashing things up and burning things. Most of them don't even. Know why they're there.

NovemberMorn · 11/06/2026 19:41

Jc2001 · 11/06/2026 19:37

You are not being unreasonable. For some reason people think that smashing up and burning their own neighbourhood will somehow make the world better. Although I suspect most of the people involved are just doing it because they like smashing things up and burning things. Most of them don't even. Know why they're there.

Football hooliganism had to go somewhere.
It's like a horrible crowd mentality that takes over from the people who DO have a right to be protesting. All they do is make things worse....and the real problems remain.

JillyComeLately · 12/06/2026 01:21

Bubblesgun · 11/06/2026 14:07

a very important point, the demonstrations in Paris are the drop thet brought the camel back after decades of lowering the justice budget.

we re demonstrating because it is injust that women and children are not protected. So i hope you dont add this one in your bag.

to your point, the riots in paris after the football match were horrible and nobody should (and they dont) condone them. They were hooligans (got i hate football) and people who saw an opportunity which is bad.

it s a real shame that some supporters behave like hooligans, i would probably be able to like the sport if it wasnt for them.

i dont know enough about the other riots you are talking about to comment so cant say

Really, the reasons for the riots in Belfast have been widely reported, how could you miss them?

Bollihobs · 12/06/2026 02:42

JillyComeLately · 12/06/2026 01:21

Really, the reasons for the riots in Belfast have been widely reported, how could you miss them?

On the plus side I'm loving "the drop that brought the camel back" 😂 Brilliant!

WhatTheHellsGoingOn · 12/06/2026 03:11

Honeyhonay · 11/06/2026 17:10

Is it relevant? The riots in NI have been in Belfast and some shit backwater towns with tiny populations. The entire population of NI fits in London several times over.
It’s no surprise more police were injured in a larger disturbance.

As far as NI riots go this one has had a relatively small turn out and the agenda seems to be distraction towards property, the actual violence towards the police has been very mild by NI standards.
The cops have more stones thrown at them at any march in the summer months than the past 2 nights.

Footage showed dozens of men dressed all in black and wearing face coverings gathering on Antrim Road, where they could be seen tearing bricks from properties and smashing paving stones with sledgehammers to create projectiles to throw at police.

This is taken from a news article I’ve just seen about it. They’ve also been setting fire to buildings, throwing petrol bombs at police and indiscriminately targeting people of a different race. I’ve heard a lot of horrible, racist stories concerning normal, everyday people and their families who have lived there for over a decade, it’s terrible. There’s also been intimidation towards bloody healthcare workers!

secretllama · 12/06/2026 07:34

HotGazpacho · 11/06/2026 19:37

Of course none of this has been fuelled by well paid antagonists seeking to use these horrible acts for their own gain.

If only these horrible acts werent there to be used as fuel

Honeyhonay · 12/06/2026 07:43

WhatTheHellsGoingOn · 12/06/2026 03:11

Footage showed dozens of men dressed all in black and wearing face coverings gathering on Antrim Road, where they could be seen tearing bricks from properties and smashing paving stones with sledgehammers to create projectiles to throw at police.

This is taken from a news article I’ve just seen about it. They’ve also been setting fire to buildings, throwing petrol bombs at police and indiscriminately targeting people of a different race. I’ve heard a lot of horrible, racist stories concerning normal, everyday people and their families who have lived there for over a decade, it’s terrible. There’s also been intimidation towards bloody healthcare workers!

What’s your point? Are you suggesting “dozens” of people is even remotely wide scale therefore comparable to the BLM riots at the time?

Gateappreciation · 12/06/2026 07:46

Unsettles me as well. There were talk of ‘protests’ in my town on Tuesday but nothing materialised. However, more marches are planned for tomorrow. Also it’s bringing out the closet racists, with odd comments being said. The ‘ I’m not racist but…’ type of comment.

WellFineThen · 12/06/2026 07:48

Ginmonkeyagain · 11/06/2026 17:06

It's not nice but not exactly new. There were at one point so many riots in South London in the 1908s there is a part of Brixton that was jokingly referred to as the "frontline".

Edited

Yes, there's always been riots all over the world. The 'peasants' used to riot outside of palaces and castles due to famine etc. It's nothing new.

Theunamedcat · 12/06/2026 07:53

Honeyhonay · 11/06/2026 17:39

This is very irrational.
A single attack on one individual leaves you more unsettled than violence and attacks on thousands of innocent people?
Strange.

It was out of nowhere on an innocent person of course its going to unsettle people

Honeyhonay · 12/06/2026 07:57

Theunamedcat · 12/06/2026 07:53

It was out of nowhere on an innocent person of course its going to unsettle people

No one said it wasn’t unsettling, but actually no details have come out so you can’t say it was out of nowhere, we have no idea if the two knew eachother or what led up to the event.

However to say it is more unsettling than than many more people being burnt out of their homes in the night, having their car stopped at fake checkpoints by thugs checking the ethnicity of who was in the car before deciding what to do with them, people having their door kicked in during the night to check the colour of their skin, well it’s an interesting way to frame it and it says a lot about how you would view the people suffering.

endofthelinefinally · 12/06/2026 08:04

WhatTheHellsGoingOn · 12/06/2026 03:11

Footage showed dozens of men dressed all in black and wearing face coverings gathering on Antrim Road, where they could be seen tearing bricks from properties and smashing paving stones with sledgehammers to create projectiles to throw at police.

This is taken from a news article I’ve just seen about it. They’ve also been setting fire to buildings, throwing petrol bombs at police and indiscriminately targeting people of a different race. I’ve heard a lot of horrible, racist stories concerning normal, everyday people and their families who have lived there for over a decade, it’s terrible. There’s also been intimidation towards bloody healthcare workers!

Yes. Road blocks and check points to intimidate and threaten NHS workers. Absolutely chilling.

Tinywhitebutterfly · 12/06/2026 08:15

NovemberMorn · 11/06/2026 13:55

You are certainly not unreasonable to feel unsettled. feel that tensions are rising. Everytime a horrific act is carried out by someone who has been welcomed into the country, someone who has often arrived with no known history, no background checks, and sometimes with a deep distrust and hatred of the people they are living amongst...it gets worse.

They're not the people rioting, burning houses and buses etc though.

The rioters are the type of local people most of us would cross the street to avoid.

EasternStandard · 12/06/2026 08:43

It’s a symptom, particularly Belfast as they’re feeling the end of the line for people moving through EU, through ROI to NI

Brussels and Paris were about other issues, but maybe the same mixed in too

SpudGunToo · 12/06/2026 08:54

Polkadotpompom · 11/06/2026 16:46

I know the riots are all for different reasons. In a way I find that more unsettling! There is so much unrest amongst people against their governments for all sorts of reasons and the fact it is spilling out into violence is scary to me.

In London we had Irish people trying to blow us up for years, we’ve had massive antisemitic marches in recent years, and between the two had a series of anti capitalist riots and all sorts of other unrest down the years. We had anti-war riots, roads shut down by climate protestors and in between all this have had things such as Muslim patrols attacking homosexuals and drinkers, massive amounts of phone theft and thousands of stabby youths and mass shoplifting.

A few more riots is really nothing new.

CornishDaughteroftheDawn · 12/06/2026 08:57

Stick0rTwist · 11/06/2026 18:14

People are rioting (rightly or wrongly) because they are not being listened to by the government.

These riots haven’t sprung up out of thin air, they are a result of years and years of people feeling ignored. The finger of blame should be pointing at the establishment.

Edited

This. Not only ignored but actively vilified and smeared as ‘far right’ by the Prime Minister in his recent speeches and discriminated against by the authorities and government employees.

A number of court cases have been won but as race discrimination is hard to prove, I’m sure they are the tip of the iceberg.

CornishDaughteroftheDawn · 12/06/2026 09:12

Honeyhonay · 12/06/2026 07:57

No one said it wasn’t unsettling, but actually no details have come out so you can’t say it was out of nowhere, we have no idea if the two knew eachother or what led up to the event.

However to say it is more unsettling than than many more people being burnt out of their homes in the night, having their car stopped at fake checkpoints by thugs checking the ethnicity of who was in the car before deciding what to do with them, people having their door kicked in during the night to check the colour of their skin, well it’s an interesting way to frame it and it says a lot about how you would view the people suffering.

Trouble is, that attack wasn’t an isolated incident in its horrific nature. There have been several attempted beheadings by men of foreign origin in the UK and obviously poor Lee Rigby. These are generally played down by the authorities as stabbings and often blamed on mental health.

It is all part of the same problem which has had many terrible impacts on people such as the long list of almost exclusively Islamist terrorist attacks since 2000, the grooming gangs and the issues of foreign gangs running huge criminal networks in barber shops and mini marts.

Government policies on immigration and justice are the cause of this but they refuse to listen, instead preferring to focus on silencing dissent and the messengers reporting on what is happening.

Now we have a justice system that is regularly thwarted by EU laws, a government that is in thrall to self interest groups like religious groups. As an example, even though it is an issue of public safety, they will not dream of revoking the special privileges enjoyed by religious groups like the Sikhs. They are also dictated to by trans groups.

The government is not in charge of our country or our borders and doesn’t appear to have our best interests at heart. That is very unsettling.

Skybluepinky · 12/06/2026 09:31

Worrying if you live in areas where there are lots of asylum seekers in hotels that would get the death penalty in their own country due to being convicted s*x offenders.

NovemberMorn · 12/06/2026 11:59

Tinywhitebutterfly · 12/06/2026 08:15

They're not the people rioting, burning houses and buses etc though.

The rioters are the type of local people most of us would cross the street to avoid.

Not only local people, sometimes when a riot is in the offing, people come from far and wide to join in, not unlike the football hoolanagism, in the 80's and 90's, as I mentioned before.

Attacking innocent people and their property is never the answer, and only a tiny minority of people are acting like thugs. But the underlying reason that is making ordinary people feel so angry and betrayed has got to be addressed, and quick.

AlecTrevelyan006 · 12/06/2026 13:30

anyone remember this?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leeds-57667812

In July 2001, intense rioting in Bradford represented some of Britain's worst mainland violence in decades. Business and shops were destroyed, hundreds of police were injured and almost as many protesters arrested. Twenty years on, the BBC has spoken to some of those who were there about the scars left by the disorder and how the city has looked to heal.

Bradford riots 2001

Bradford riots 2001: What has changed 20 years on?

People from Bradford reflect on scenes 20 years ago that affected a generation of the city's young.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leeds-57667812

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