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AIBU to spend £20k on our first car?

72 replies

starksausage · Today 07:45

I’ve never owned a car before. I’m in my late 20s now. Don’t own my own home but have enough for a deposit. Been with DP for 8 years.

We need a car for various reasons now and have found a used one we like for £20k. AIBU to spend this much money? We bring home roughly £10k a month and this would cost about £500 a month

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Backedoffhackedoff · Today 09:51

SunnyRedSnail · Today 09:50

If you bring home £10k a month then I'd question why you need to take a loan to buy it. Surely you are saving a lot with such a high income?

(Unless the loan is interest free?)

She’s been saving a deposit for a house though hasn’t she?

Ablondiebutagoody · Today 09:56

Backedoffhackedoff · Today 09:40

I treat myself to your list and a nice car too 😁 lucky me

I have a bigger house than you both

SunnyRedSnail · Today 09:58

Backedoffhackedoff · Today 09:51

She’s been saving a deposit for a house though hasn’t she?

But a car loan would reduce the mortgage they could get.

In which case it is probably better to get a cheaper car.

Chewbecca · Today 09:59

What's the interest rate?

WhosGotTheKeysToMyBimma · Today 10:03

hettie · Today 09:47

Oh please you really do not need to spend 20k to get a reliable used car! Hyundai, Kia and Toyota will all be good bets and lots of used models available for less. If you really really get snotty about brands then mini do quite well on reliability scores and whilst not an Audi are presumably less cringe for those that care.
Whatever..... people are very free to make whatever choices they like with their cash. But there is no way you can justify a new car on finance ever being a sound financial decision.

Have you bought a used car recently?

20k isn't expensive for a used car. It's maybe 3 years old I'm guessing.

Much less than that and you're looking at 10+ years old. You might want to roll the dice on reliability but the OP doesn't.

takealettermsjones · Today 10:04

Ablondiebutagoody · Today 09:56

I have a bigger house than you both

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SpudGunToo · Today 10:06

Heardy · Today 09:32

Why is an expensive car a treat. Our combined income is well over OPs but an expensive is a total waste of money. I just assume people that spend lots of money on a car are attention seekers or have deep insecurities.

Like someone spending a lot of money on a bag, or going somewhere luxurious on holiday rather than Skegness?

DH likes his cars. He enjoys driving and owning them and so for him having a collection of nice ones is money well spent.

SpudGunToo · Today 10:08

Winkmurder · Today 09:40

I just want a car that gets me reliably from a to b, couldn't care less beyond that.

I "treat myself" to a nice big house with gardens, decent savings , investment and pension, lovely holidays, nights out with friends, private education and expensive hobbies for my children, some beautiful art work, trips to the theatre ..

But why do they make sense but a nice car not?

Why are people like you unable to understand that different people get pleasure from different things?

anyolddinosaur · Today 10:09

Cars are depreciating assets. Look at the list of most reliable makes and then consider what the car is going to cost you to insure and to run. We have never bothered with flashy cars but we have, reluctantly, spent more than that on a new car we hope to keep at least 7 years.

Silverbirchleaf · Today 10:15

I don’t think that’s too bad, and it’s a three year loan. People pay that on lease hire/pcp and have nothing to show for it after three years. A newer car will be more efficient, reliable and have a greater resale value at the end. However, with such a good income, could you pay it off sooner?

PropertyD · Today 10:16

hettie · Today 08:24

I mean your money your choice, but that would not be something I'd do. We have a bigger income a mortgage which is probably less than a lot of people's rent and hell would freeze over before we spent that kind of money monthly on a car. Buying new is for idiots or people who can burn money (mortgage paid if and a great income). The function of a car is to get you from a to b in some level of comfort with as little hassle as possible. 18 months old (or even older tbh) less 'prestige' brands will do that just fine and unless you are a family of five golf sized is good for most. You can meet those requirements for much less than 20k. It's not an asset (that holds value or grows in value), it's not an investment that will help you earn more (like a bit of kit for a business or a training course) so in 'money sense' terms you should spend as little as possible on it. If you want it fine, but you certainly don't need it and there is no financial justification.

You are assuming that people dont want prestige brands cars and any old car will do - after all it just gets you from A to B. I like a premium car and buy via PCP so I get a new car every 3 years. I like that flexibility. I dont need to get it through a MOT. There are no unexpected bills. I just dont need to really worry about it. When I was younger I had old bangers and never knew from day to day whether it was going to start, need costly repairs etc.

If you follow this way of thinking what about just buying a 'house' doesnt really matter what it is. For some people cars are important. For others they are just a means to an end.

Pinkbus · Today 10:18

hettie · Today 09:47

Oh please you really do not need to spend 20k to get a reliable used car! Hyundai, Kia and Toyota will all be good bets and lots of used models available for less. If you really really get snotty about brands then mini do quite well on reliability scores and whilst not an Audi are presumably less cringe for those that care.
Whatever..... people are very free to make whatever choices they like with their cash. But there is no way you can justify a new car on finance ever being a sound financial decision.

I'd love to know where you're buying your cars. I just looked and if you want a 3yo Toyota bigger than a Yaris, not practical for most, you do need to spend close to £20k.

For me, cheaper/older is a false economy. If I'm spending a large sum on a car, which it us whatever you buy, I want a few years from it. Most cars need money spending from about 5yo and become uneliable from 8/10 years, unless you're very lucky.

Obviously you have to buy what you can afford, but why would you choose to have an unreliable scruffy car, any more than you'd choose an unreliable washing machine or scruffy shoes?

CarelessWimper · Today 10:19

SowWhatNow · Today 09:01

I agree. Also if OP is thinking about buying property, then they need to consider the impact the cost of £500 a mo th would have on their mortgage application.

You need to consider the impact that this car or any debt will have on you buying a house if you are wanting to buy within the timeframe of the loan.

Is having the car or the house a priority?

CraftyNavySeal · Today 10:24

SunnyRedSnail · Today 09:58

But a car loan would reduce the mortgage they could get.

In which case it is probably better to get a cheaper car.

If this becomes a big enough problem they can just sell it again and probably recoup most of the money.

Used cars are expensive now so it’s a false economy to by a “cheap” one that’s still going to be at least 5k which will be scrap in a few years.

You can have a better car for a few years then sell it and the cost per year will be about the same.

Backedoffhackedoff · Today 10:27

SunnyRedSnail · Today 09:58

But a car loan would reduce the mortgage they could get.

In which case it is probably better to get a cheaper car.

Only if that’s a problem. They may not need to go to maximum borrowing capacity so makes no difference.

Pinkbus · Today 10:29

On 10k pm presumably they've built up the house deposit quite quickly. I'd spend some of the savings, rather than take credit, and then save (at least the £500 pm payment) to replace it, but I don't think spending £20k on a newish modest car is a stupid financial decision.

SpudGunToo · Today 10:32

Pinkbus · Today 10:18

I'd love to know where you're buying your cars. I just looked and if you want a 3yo Toyota bigger than a Yaris, not practical for most, you do need to spend close to £20k.

For me, cheaper/older is a false economy. If I'm spending a large sum on a car, which it us whatever you buy, I want a few years from it. Most cars need money spending from about 5yo and become uneliable from 8/10 years, unless you're very lucky.

Obviously you have to buy what you can afford, but why would you choose to have an unreliable scruffy car, any more than you'd choose an unreliable washing machine or scruffy shoes?

DH has the sporty Yaris.

It was not available used when he bought it and it cost him £33,000 new.

I think some posters have lost sight of what a débecte small used car costs nowadays. I know his is at the higher end but you are really not talking about anything crazy for £20,000.

StandingDeskDisco · Today 10:38

If it is your first car, you are highly likely to dent it or scrape the paint or smash a light at some point. That is just life.

A PCP or leased car will be a pain and very expensive to keep pristine, which you need to do to if you want to swap it at the end of the contract.
The newer the car, the more expensive it will be for fully-comp insurance.

Pay outright for an old banger for the first couple of years on the road, then think about a nicer car.

Bimblebombles · Today 10:45

The most important thing is reliability - not whether you like the design / how it looks etc. 20k is a lot to spend. You could spend half of that and get yourself a really good car. I have always gotten approved-used Skodas. They are built like tanks, super reliable and have never given me any grief. They just run and run, for many years with no hassle.

Helpmefindmysoul · Today 10:55

I voted you are being unreasonable as I’d prioritise a house over a car. Increase your house deposit and buy a car for £10k.
When you dent, scratch and scrape the car as expected especially in your first car you’ll feel awful. Also having a “cheap” first car is almost like a right of passage.
Obviously newer cars require less maintenance / cheaper to insure sometimes but it’s better to upgrade once you’re more confident on the road.
Congrats on passing your test!

LasVegass · Today 11:27

Sec hand cars are v expensive nowadays. I’ve seen loads at the £20k price point when looking for one just a couple of months ago. When we last bought a decade ago that would have been a new and quite fancy car (relatively!). Our new car now is double what it was 12 years ago. Not same model but same kind of thing we were looking for. I wouldn’t buy on finance, though.

Backedoffhackedoff · Today 11:40

Bimblebombles · Today 10:45

The most important thing is reliability - not whether you like the design / how it looks etc. 20k is a lot to spend. You could spend half of that and get yourself a really good car. I have always gotten approved-used Skodas. They are built like tanks, super reliable and have never given me any grief. They just run and run, for many years with no hassle.

Out of interest I’ve just looked at Skoda used cars. They have 5,063 approved used cars. 74 are £10k or less.

the vast majority of them are £38-40k

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