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AIBU to be surprised by a five-year-old given cola in a bottle?

139 replies

Freshtona · Today 07:20

On a flight the other day and a child of about 5 was having total meltdown and was given a baby bottle with Coca-Cola to calm them! The parents had bottles of coke with them to top it up!

I think child was ND, but regardless of that, why would anyone give that to a 5-year old child??? I try not to judge other parents and my own DC aren't strangers to sugar but cola is not allowed. The caffeine and sugar would surely make meltdowns even worse, not to mention the effect on teeth.

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thepariscrimefiles · Today 09:23

If this isn't just a one-off to calm them down on the plane, this is incredibly damaging to the child's teeth.

This is highly discouraged by medical and dental professionals. It bathes their developing teeth in sugar for extended periods, leading to severe, rapid tooth decay often referred to as "baby bottle tooth decay".

ThisOliveKoala · Today 09:27

Sartre · Today 09:17

Before I had a ND child I’d have likely judged too. You have no idea how fussy they can be with food. Some ND children will literally only eat one variety of crisps or biscuits and that is it - they won’t touch anything else. We are lucky in that my DS does eat a select few things, some have vitamins/minerals and he’ll take a multivitamin he believes to be a sweet so we try to cover as many bases. It’s hard, sometimes they will happily eat something then randomly reject it too.

You don’t know anything about the family, maybe cola is the only way to get substantial calories in him. I know that sounds nuts but my DS eats so little we get him to drink about 2 pints of whole milk a day for calories.

Children are in tune with their survival instincts. I am willing to bet all the money in my bank account (:/) that if no crisps and biscuits your ND child will eat what is there and may even discover a taste for new foods. They will not starve themselves to death. What did other ND children do for food before crisps and biscuits, other countries where these things are a luxury they are ND children but they eat the food they are given.

Toddlerteaplease · Today 09:28

I remember seeing a toddler if about 18 months have a tantrum about mums coke. Mum went into a shop opposite and bought a baby bottle to put it in.

Ohthatsabitshit · Today 09:28

The issue for actually drinking any fizzy drink in a bottle is surely it would be VERY gassy as it came through the teat? 5 year olds can drink sweet drinks. In many parts of the world canned drinks are the go to when travelling because they are sterile inside so “safer” than something from the tap etc. As far as epilepsy goes, my son can definitely be helped by calories when he’s looking a bit seizure-ish. Our go to is cold milk, but we have used ice lollies before which I would guess is the equivalent of a can of coke. Sucking through a straw or licking a lolly slows upset, cools, hydrates and raises sugar levels ALL of which support regulation.

Lexy2345 · Today 09:28

Hopefully it was zero sugar, but apart from that, I don't think you should be judging someone's parenting from a brief glimpse into their lives, in a stressful environment.

Jk987 · Today 09:31

You’d do absolutely anything to calm a child on a flight. You’d be judged if they kept making a noise. If the child is autistic it must be a million times harder.

Sartre · Today 09:31

ThisOliveKoala · Today 09:27

Children are in tune with their survival instincts. I am willing to bet all the money in my bank account (:/) that if no crisps and biscuits your ND child will eat what is there and may even discover a taste for new foods. They will not starve themselves to death. What did other ND children do for food before crisps and biscuits, other countries where these things are a luxury they are ND children but they eat the food they are given.

Tell me you have zero experience of neurodiversity without saying it directly. They used to just get locked up in asylums so let’s not hark on about what happened in the past. The Nazis experimented on them if you want to go there. Now we accept and embrace their differences where possible, thank the Lord. And yes they would starve themselves, I wouldn’t like to prove this but my DS would gladly starve himself if I refused to give him his “safe foods” and offered him what we ate.

Lexy2345 · Today 09:33

ThisOliveKoala · Today 09:27

Children are in tune with their survival instincts. I am willing to bet all the money in my bank account (:/) that if no crisps and biscuits your ND child will eat what is there and may even discover a taste for new foods. They will not starve themselves to death. What did other ND children do for food before crisps and biscuits, other countries where these things are a luxury they are ND children but they eat the food they are given.

Without being preachy, you don't understand about neurodiversity at all.

BillieWiper · Today 09:34

I'm pretty sure I was allowed coca cola in moderation around that age. Yeah it was the 80s. But I remember being allowed a 1.5 litre bottle per weekend! Idk if that was at five, probably more like 10, but I had definitely tasted it and liked it by then.

And on holidays/flights kids are often given treats they might not usually have.

I mean I wouldn't give any sugared drinks now to kids and I'd try or keep them on plain water or juice as a treat. I'd imagine they'd get into coca cola etc when they start going out alone to buy stuff. So yeah I think with modern sensibilities in mind it's not a great idea.

x2boys · Today 09:35

Well its obviously not ideal but if the child is autistic and the parents have found
this works to minimise / prevent meltdowns then i ccan empathise
What isnt helpful is the judgement of others

Notmycircusnotmyotter · Today 09:36

There's absolutely no reason for this that's a good one.

flagpolesitta · Today 09:36

ThisOliveKoala · Today 09:27

Children are in tune with their survival instincts. I am willing to bet all the money in my bank account (:/) that if no crisps and biscuits your ND child will eat what is there and may even discover a taste for new foods. They will not starve themselves to death. What did other ND children do for food before crisps and biscuits, other countries where these things are a luxury they are ND children but they eat the food they are given.

https://www.itv.com/news/granada/2024-02-13/mother-of-son-who-died-of-undiagnosed-eating-disorder-urges-nhs-to-act

Ablondiebutagoody · Today 09:39

ThisOliveKoala · Today 09:27

Children are in tune with their survival instincts. I am willing to bet all the money in my bank account (:/) that if no crisps and biscuits your ND child will eat what is there and may even discover a taste for new foods. They will not starve themselves to death. What did other ND children do for food before crisps and biscuits, other countries where these things are a luxury they are ND children but they eat the food they are given.

I agree. Parents need to be comfortable being the bad guy once in a while rather than be manipulated by tantrums.

Katiesaidthat · Today 09:40

ThisOliveKoala · Today 09:27

Children are in tune with their survival instincts. I am willing to bet all the money in my bank account (:/) that if no crisps and biscuits your ND child will eat what is there and may even discover a taste for new foods. They will not starve themselves to death. What did other ND children do for food before crisps and biscuits, other countries where these things are a luxury they are ND children but they eat the food they are given.

They probably fixate on other types of foods, will only eat feta/pancakes/jacket potatoes. The problem is how they brains are wired it´s nothing to do with the food available.

flagpolesitta · Today 09:42

Ablondiebutagoody · Today 09:39

I agree. Parents need to be comfortable being the bad guy once in a while rather than be manipulated by tantrums.

See the news story I linked above. ND children will and have starved without safe foods. So uneducated 🤦‍♀️

Treetreetreetree · Today 09:42

I've lost count of the number of children I’ve taught who have had to have all of their teeth removed because of decay.
It’s easy to judge but what 35 years of teaching has taught me is that a ‘bad’ parent takes many forms even the sort that understand oral hygiene.

TheCheeseTax · Today 09:43

It's out of order and we all fucking know it.

Sartre · Today 09:43

Ablondiebutagoody · Today 09:39

I agree. Parents need to be comfortable being the bad guy once in a while rather than be manipulated by tantrums.

Tantrums!! Wow, education on neurodiversity needs greatly improving.

x2boys · Today 09:44

Ablondiebutagoody · Today 09:39

I agree. Parents need to be comfortable being the bad guy once in a while rather than be manipulated by tantrums.

A tantrum isnt the same as a meltdown.

Monty36 · Today 09:45

Ohthatsabitshit · Today 09:28

The issue for actually drinking any fizzy drink in a bottle is surely it would be VERY gassy as it came through the teat? 5 year olds can drink sweet drinks. In many parts of the world canned drinks are the go to when travelling because they are sterile inside so “safer” than something from the tap etc. As far as epilepsy goes, my son can definitely be helped by calories when he’s looking a bit seizure-ish. Our go to is cold milk, but we have used ice lollies before which I would guess is the equivalent of a can of coke. Sucking through a straw or licking a lolly slows upset, cools, hydrates and raises sugar levels ALL of which support regulation.

Dangerous cobblers where epilepsy is concerned.
Cold milk will not stop a seizure. Ever.

Ablondiebutagoody · Today 09:49

flagpolesitta · Today 09:42

See the news story I linked above. ND children will and have starved without safe foods. So uneducated 🤦‍♀️

That story is tragic but presumably a rare condition that shouldn't be used as cover for bad parenting, which is many, many times more common.

butimamonstersaidthemonster · Today 09:50

My son has adhd and caffine really helped him. He’s on proper meds now but there was a time where I gave him cola before school as it really helped him calm and focus.

FaceIt · Today 09:50

That’s really bad.
That poor child’s teeth.

Justwatching1 · Today 09:51

they actully give caffene to premature babies in NICU to keep them alive

Ohthatsabitshit · Today 09:51

Restricted diet used to be part of the criteria for autism. It’s not rare in that community and it’s not what many are imagining on this thread. Yes you can work to overcome it but no the approach is nothing like the way you would push a typical child to eat a range of foods and you definitely would end up starving a child rather than see them break their boundaries. Autism is not a character trait or an attitude it’s a genuine disability as profound and incurable as any other.