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To think men should not be allowed to be gynaecologists

453 replies

CaragianettE · Yesterday 22:45

Just that, really. Saw one last week. He was trying to be helpful, but I really really really don’t want to discuss ‘do you get clots’ ‘do you experience flooding’ ‘do you find intercourse painful’ with a strange man. Yes it would be awkward with a strange woman too, but at least I know she likely has some lived experience of what we are talking about. TBH I also question men’s motives for choosing this job, not just the licence to look at strange women’s vaginas, but I think there’s something deep in the male psyche that just loves laying down the law to women about their reproductive systems. It’s a job for a woman, and while I know men were allowed to train for it in the past, I think they should now be phased out.

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ForeverDelayedEpiphany · Yesterday 23:59

MissVerucaSalt · Yesterday 23:00

It’s very rare that a doctor is purely a gynaecologist- generally they are also obstetricians, and that’s a popular area of medicine because: 1. You’re bringing actual lives into the world, which is pretty cool. 2. It’s a bigger challenge because there’s effectively 2 patients, not one. 3. It’s pretty much always interesting as the run of the mill patients are handled by the midwives, 4. It gives you a dual speciality. 5. Gynae private practice is big business and well paid.

All my children were delivered by male obstetricians, who made excellent decisions in my care, much better than the women and midwives. I've been lucky they all were so caring and knowledgeable, as I'd literally not be here if they hadn't made the right call.

fairfat40 · Today 00:01

LittleGreenShoots · Yesterday 22:49

I don't know- Adam Kay's books were wonderfully written and he was a male gynecologist and also completely gay, so really not doing it for anything other than the medical calling.

When I've had smear tests etc by a man I've actually found it less weird. It feels more natural to have a man down there than a woman for me.

I think gynaecologists can be men.

But the underlying misogyny in Kay’s memoirs was unedifying.

Lecruesetisntright · Today 00:01

My gynecology oncologist was brilliant. I really quizzed him on his motives and he was also great at explaining what he was doing and having the camera on during my colposcopies. I had a different one a few times and request him when possible.

I think limiting any career to a single sex is wrong to be honest.

Seriouslynonono · Today 00:03

bored of looking at vag after vag after vag

😄

OtterlyAstounding · Today 00:03

Lecruesetisntright · Today 00:01

My gynecology oncologist was brilliant. I really quizzed him on his motives and he was also great at explaining what he was doing and having the camera on during my colposcopies. I had a different one a few times and request him when possible.

I think limiting any career to a single sex is wrong to be honest.

So you think males should be able to work at a women's refuge? Or with female victims of rape?

NameChangeMay2026 · Today 00:04

Gowlett · Yesterday 22:54

I mean, I really connect with my female GP.

But, also my male midwife was amazing…

When I went for a vaginal ultrasound, I was expecting the usual lady sonographer. But it was a guy instead. I felt fine about it, I like her a lot, but I found him very good at the job too.

Oh, I would haaaaate to have a man doing my vaginal ultrasound.

But I would suck it up, because I wouldn't want to go to the hassle of changing the appt and coming back.

DixonD · Today 00:04

The best one I have ever seen is a man.

YABVU.

Seriouslynonono · Today 00:05

Seriouslynonono · Today 00:03

bored of looking at vag after vag after vag

😄

I'd love to give this written on an office mug to my gynaecologist

dointhebestwecan · Today 00:07

2021x · Yesterday 23:22

Some nuance is needed here about empathy fatigue. Having been a clinician and specialising in woman’s health the empathy fatigue is real- especially in clinics when you see one patient after another.

In addition because women’s medicine understanding is a bit behind mens - gestures at the patriarchal structure- women’s concerns have been systematically underserved for multiple millennia. The real world impact is thst women have been prevented from having accurate language to explain their symptoms. Most women haven’t even looked at their genitals before seeking medical treatment and assessment.

This results in a huge unspoken burden on the clinician and after 3 years of working in Women’s Health I was burnt out.

yes it’s the women’s fault they suffer medical discrimination - they just can’t explain themselves. Hmm

NameChangeMay2026 · Today 00:09

Oh. That's a big disappointment. I enjoyed his first book.

fartotheleftside · Today 00:09

You’re being ridiculous. would you care about women being urologists?

Kirbert2 · Today 00:09

OtterlyAstounding · Today 00:03

So you think males should be able to work at a women's refuge? Or with female victims of rape?

Those would be the only exceptions for me.

WaitingToHear · Today 00:11

fartotheleftside · Today 00:09

You’re being ridiculous. would you care about women being urologists?

Whoosh!

NameChangeMay2026 · Today 00:12

PollyBell · Yesterday 23:15

So how does this all work women want women to be home having babies and not working because womens role in life is caring for others in the family so the only doctors should be men or women who dont want to have children, yet we are told women who dont have children by choice are weird

Who said those things?

BeaLola · Today 00:14

as often is the case first reply nails it.

Having a preference to see a woman because you believe you would be more comfortable is absolutely fine

I recall the female Dr performing my ERPC after my second missed miscarriage with twins following ivf treatment who after introducing herself said to me “ so you’re here today for an abortion “. I wish I hadn’t had to see her

bolognazey · Today 00:15

Do you feel the same way about female urologists?

Me and my DH needed IVF. His urologist (who needed to complete surgical sperm extraction) was female, and brilliant. The doctors who did my egg collection were male, also brilliant.

Motomum23 · Today 00:18

I think yabu - there is absolutely nothing sexy about your clots or your aging vagina I can promise you. Its not like many young attractive people see a gynacologist. If anything i would think a lot pf men would be put off the idea of seeing so many lady parts all day every day - let alone have to think about periods etc.

shhblackbag · Today 00:18

PiIIock · Yesterday 22:53

So basically ypu thought everyone would validate you and now it hasn’t happened, everyone’s a handmaiden?

I don’t care what sex they are as long as they’re knowledgeable and make me feel comfortable.

Of course she thought that.

YABU anyway, OP. It was a male gynaecologist that finally took me seriously. Women kept telling me to pull myself together. Pain is normal, apparently. Except, actually, it's not to that degree.

mondaytosunday · Today 00:20

I wouldn’t want one not for the reasons you suggest but because if I say ‘it feels like X’ or ‘you know when Y’ I think a woman would have a better understanding. Yes I get that you could be an excellent doctor and not have experience of whatever issue they treat, but I do think something that is unique to women is better understood by another woman.

ThatJadeLion · Today 00:20

YADNBU. I agree with everything you wrote

MrsShawnHatosy · Today 00:23

So presumably you think men should not be fertility doctors either OP?

IAmBeaIDrinkTea · Today 00:24

Haven't we just had this thread like 3 minutes ago? It's getting more and more like Groundhog Day on here.
YABU.
YANBU for wanting a female gynaecologist, but YABU to say that there shouldn't be any males doing it.

BestZebbie · Today 00:24

The main correlation with the doctor's sex I can think of is that no-one wants a gynae with very large hands if one with more slender fingers is available?

WaitingToHear · Today 00:26

IAmBeaIDrinkTea · Today 00:24

Haven't we just had this thread like 3 minutes ago? It's getting more and more like Groundhog Day on here.
YABU.
YANBU for wanting a female gynaecologist, but YABU to say that there shouldn't be any males doing it.

Almost every thread here is a repeat after 25 years of mumsnet, so why pick at this one?

IAmBeaIDrinkTea · Today 00:33

WaitingToHear · Today 00:26

Almost every thread here is a repeat after 25 years of mumsnet, so why pick at this one?

There's been several recently all "men shouldn't be primary teachers/nursery workers/be allowed to treat women."
All very "men shouldn't be allowed near women and children in case they're a danger."
Just all seems a bit 🙄