To be worried I could be arrested under the terrorism act?

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Please tell me internet providers don't have a list of visited websites?

H has taken loads of books out with my library card, not yet returned, on Islam and various Islamic extremist groups, also History books on the middle East. He's also been obsessed with reading articles and watching films on dubious websites, I've seen he's watched some very hardcore things and have deleted them from my computer now.

It really is just an interest for him, nothing sinister, but I can't help fretting. It wouldn't look good, if anyone really is 'watching' would it?

I wonder how fundamentalism begins? Is it interest? Does your H have similar beliefs to the extremists? If it's Islamic extremism is he a muslim?
I would suspect that certain websites are under the supervision and scrutiny of the intelligence agencies, thank goodness.

I think that general research is fine and most websites ok to visit. If he's got himself a password to some extremist site whre you need to be an subscribing member, then that would be different.

what do you mean by 'very hardcore'? if you are referring to ultra extremist violent islamic websites then yes you can be sure the spooks will be on to it. And I'm not joking.

He was born in London to parents who had lived here for many years, baptised as Greek Orthodox, but none of his family have ever been devoutly religious. He then lived in Turkey for a while and really adopted what he calls a 'relaxed Islam' belief.

When we met he was strictly agnostic, as I am, but he flirted with Buddhism for a while after we spent a summer travelling.

I'm not sure what he thinks, or what I think, but I need him to have stable views for the DC's sake if nothing else.

donnie, yes he's actively seeked them out, I'm sure he just wants to learn how they work etc, I really am, but I'm worried anyone looking from the outside wouldn't see it the same.

well quite. A bit like those people who 'actively seek out' paedophile websites but say they are 'just curious' and not remotely paedophilic. You see the analogy? I would tell your dh he has got to be very very careful and to stop tempting fate.

Does he want to know in the theory of "better the enemy you know than the one you dont" or is he flirting with agreeing with their beliefs?

I would imagine he is treading on potentially shaky ground.

of course they can tell exactly what sites you've visited how do you think they catch people
I would tell your H very loudly and clearly to think very carefully about what he is doing if he carries on you need to think about what your position is on all of this

Perhaps you could find an organisation that works on getting people away from this stuff. I would seek the advice of a local Iman, very wise people.

TBH, I think what is more worrying is not the likelihood of you being arrested under the terrorism act but the fact that your DH is looking at ultra violent websites. Can you perhaps talk to him about why he wants to watch the material, why he is interested...etc

I'm certain he is only interested in it in innocent way.

He's always been a fiercely academic type and likes to take an interest and obsess over it. This doesn't excuse him watching horrid videos I know.

in that case, maybe you could just tell him that even though you appreciate it's an intelectual exercise for him and that he's just curious, you're worried how it could be perceived.

How 'relaxed' or not are his views on US presence in Iraq, Israel vs Palestinians, etc?

I'd be worried.DH manages a tourist attraction & had a visit from the Anti Terrorist police purely because some woman who had visited had seen 4 men wearing 'traditional clothing' taking photos & thought they looked suspicious.She rang an anti terror hotline & the police turned up demanding cctv footage ect.

It turned out that they were perfectly decent people,enjoying a day out,but this just shows how suspicious the security services are.

I don't see why he can't use his own card to borrow books, and use his own computer for "researching" this topic?? Am I missing something here?

Welsh,

This is Yorkys DH, this is a an area of specific knowledge of mine. There is a fine line between healthy interest and obsessive. The line in my experience lies when he is hiding things (if there is nothing to hide then don't hide it).

If the stuff is something is like this:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=nqhhePD_oxM

If you have found something sinister on your PC you need to be aware that when you delete something from a PC it does not disappear. What happens is that the first digit of the file name is changed to $, it therefore it is very easy to recover (Software free on the internet). To that ends you need to be proactive (for your DC sake). If I were to find such things on my PC I would go and speak to the local police station with a full description of what it is.

The media makes it out that you will be locked up for 28 days without trial this is not the case. What would likely happen is that the PC would be taken away for investigation and a trace run on all sites which have been visited. That would establish if there was a problem or not.

Should it be academic interest (there will be no problem, I have done an MA, PGDdip and BA (Hons) on this stuff) if there is a problem then he will be further investigated to see if there is a problem.

You need to think in terms of DC, You and DH. If he has been targeted for radicalization then there are ways to bring him back to you.

Several warning signs you need to be looking for are:

1. Hiding what he is doing PC
2. New friends (he does not introduce you to)
3. The way he is treating you gets worse.

I am not going out to worry you, however you do need to know that there is danger out there.

Happy to speak direct should you need.

I would be more concerned as to why dh felt the need to look at these websites.

I'm sorry but te watching of extremist videoes would set huge alarm bells ringing for me.

The wife of the 7/7 bomber (sorry can't remember his name now but the one with the young baby) didn't know he was an extremist either iirc.

I am a muslim amd i think i would be worried especially if he has new friends.Its very easy for someone to become a fundamentalist.