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AIBU to think informing ten colleagues while off sick is unreasonable?

25 replies

eestameen · Today 12:16

I was off sick yesterday with a serious migraine. First time I’ve been off from work with illness in almost two years and first time at my current workplace (started 3 months ago).

I checked the HR manual and it said I had to notify HR and my Manager before my usual start time of 8am. Set an internal and external out of office.

I did this and then told my Manager I would follow up with what projects I was working on and what work needed to be done that day

I emailed my Manager this list and included who I was working with, i e who might expect work from me that day. It was over 10 people.

Logged off and laid in bed in a dark room. At 1pm I get a response from my Manager saying it is my responsibility to inform each individual I am working with that I am unwell and off work.

AIBU to think it’s crazy to expect someone off sick to have to email over ten people and also be monitoring emails? I am worried as this makes me look really bad!

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PuppyMonkey · Today 12:19

Sounds a bit unreasonable but hey ho. Bcc them all in an email - cut and paste what you sent to your boss. Then go back to bed.

FredbassetOT · Today 12:22

My boss doesn't tell you if people are off sick. Clinical confidentiality. They might tell one person if there is a clinic list to be cancelled but not anyone else.

Octavia64 · Today 12:22

Not as unreasonable as my place which insisted on a daily phone call - from my hospital bed on my day of operation.

sick policies are insane sometimes.

(btw you were so ill that unfortunately that wasn’t possible)

NuffSaidSam · Today 12:23

Is that not what the out of office does? The purpose of that is to let anyone trying to reach you know that you're not in that day, no?

I can see why your manager didn't want to do it for you. What if a few people are off sick. They need to spend ages emailing 30 plus people to let them know who's off sick?!

foreversunshine · Today 12:24

I wouldn't have sent my manager of my list of projects and all associated colleagues to begin with. The absolute most I would send is:

"Dear X,

Sorry to report that I won't be in today due to a severe migraine. I'm returning to bed and won't be checking emails today. I've set my out of office and hope to be well enough to return tomorrow. I'll keep in touch if anything changes.

Regards, Y

No list of colleagues = no expectation to inform said list of colleagues
I promise you, none of your colleagues care if you're off sick for a couple days and the projects will not crumble.

eestameen · Today 12:36

The Manager is a practice manager, i e doesn’t do projects just manages the team

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ColdAsAWitches · Today 12:36

If you were able to send your manager a list of people you were working with, you were able to put those names in the CC of an email. It wasn't any more work.

LambriniBobInIsleworthISeesYa · Today 12:39

Wait until you hear about what they expect teachers to do. I’ve been asked to pull cover out of my arse for five lessons on the morning of an operation, sat in a hospital bed.

FlowerSticker · Today 12:40

My boss doesn't even tell me if he's off sick 😂

An out of office is sufficient.

FlowerSticker · Today 12:41

LambriniBobInIsleworthISeesYa · Today 12:39

Wait until you hear about what they expect teachers to do. I’ve been asked to pull cover out of my arse for five lessons on the morning of an operation, sat in a hospital bed.

Surely that was a planned absence?

NuffSaidSam · Today 12:42

FlowerSticker · Today 12:41

Surely that was a planned absence?

Not all operations are planned. What makes you think it was planned?

Heartbreaktuna · Today 12:55

I just call in to say I'm ill and won't be working today. No hand over or work update, because that would be work....and I'm not working!

bigboykitty · Today 12:57

LambriniBobInIsleworthISeesYa · Today 12:39

Wait until you hear about what they expect teachers to do. I’ve been asked to pull cover out of my arse for five lessons on the morning of an operation, sat in a hospital bed.

Shouldn't the lessons be planned in advance anyway and available to a cover teacher if needed?

BlackCat14 · Today 13:04

bigboykitty · Today 12:57

Shouldn't the lessons be planned in advance anyway and available to a cover teacher if needed?

It’s not always as straightforward as that. I’ve been off school with terrible sickness and had to email the person covering me with things like “right because of the zoo trip the other day were two days behind on maths, so even though today is Wednesday we are only up to Mondays lesson if you can find that on the server… we’re finished English early yesterday and started today’s lesson as well, so you need to finish that off if that’s ok. This afternoon we were meant to be doing a massive science experiment but I don’t expect you to do that on your own…if you want to, all the equipment is left out by the sink at the back and the plan/powerpoint is on the server but if that’s a bit much, speak to Gina and she’ll sort you out with an RE lesson. Oh also it’s spellings and homework day, can you make sure those get sent out?”

StartingToday010626 · Today 13:07

@eestameen Even though you haven’t been off work sick for 2 years, you have been in your new role in just 3 months. This isn’t a great start. You may have got her back-up with your email too and made her think you can very well do your own emailing round as she doesn’t work for you.

TheNinkyNonkyIsATardis · Today 13:09

I have a planned surgery that could become emergency. I have a "live and urgent" work doc with a key contact that my line manager has access to it he needs it.

Completely unreasonable to expect you to be updating staff. Especially with a migraine! The screen time is just prolonging it.

In fact, one of my reasonable adjustments for migraines was that I can message me manager the night before and sleep in without notifying - it's much more useful to get uninterrupted sleep than to be up making calls.

NewLifter · Today 13:10

That seems very unreasonable to me. I'm a manager and only expect a quick text and then I sort whatever needs to be sorted.

Sunloungerhogger · Today 13:22

I just email the partner I work with. I happen to be doing work for 4 separate partners, so I did copy all 4 of them recently when I was off sick, but just to save my main supervising partner the job of emailing the other 3. We have a practice that all emails include all relevant people (inc the relevant partner) on cc, which is helpful top cover etc and also means they all are aware of what matters I’m working on with them, so also means don’t have to forward/copy in/contact people on individual matters if unexpectedly off at short notice, as they’re already on the email and can deal accordingly.

FlapperFlamingo · Today 13:25

It seems unreasonable that you have to inform everyone - but our place is the same. I just cc everyone in the same email including my manager, HR and team members.

KarmenPQZ · Today 14:03

I think cancelling meetings you have is common courtesy if you can. Setting OOO doesn’t quite go far enough to cover existing meetings but will obviously let anyone who contacts you on the day that you’re out.

as others have said if you can email your manager a list you can add them in bcc. Not ideal with a migraine but it is life.

AgnesX · Today 14:06

foreversunshine · Today 12:24

I wouldn't have sent my manager of my list of projects and all associated colleagues to begin with. The absolute most I would send is:

"Dear X,

Sorry to report that I won't be in today due to a severe migraine. I'm returning to bed and won't be checking emails today. I've set my out of office and hope to be well enough to return tomorrow. I'll keep in touch if anything changes.

Regards, Y

No list of colleagues = no expectation to inform said list of colleagues
I promise you, none of your colleagues care if you're off sick for a couple days and the projects will not crumble.

TMI. Just your apologies as you're ill and won't be picking up emails. They don't need to know anything else.

eestameen · Today 14:07

StartingToday010626 · Today 13:07

@eestameen Even though you haven’t been off work sick for 2 years, you have been in your new role in just 3 months. This isn’t a great start. You may have got her back-up with your email too and made her think you can very well do your own emailing round as she doesn’t work for you.

hello Manager ?

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Everanewbie · Today 14:19

The responses here are mad. You're ill. You've told your boss you're not coming in. That must be enough. Especially with a migraine. Emailing everyone involved in some project and so on? Well you may as well work.

If she is the manager, its her job to manage - communicate, delegate, whatever. You're ill.

PoliteSquid · Today 14:25

bigboykitty · Today 12:57

Shouldn't the lessons be planned in advance anyway and available to a cover teacher if needed?

Ha ha! You overestimate what is expected of cover teachers! Setting cover work requires an entire re-write of a lesson. The assumption is always that the person covering is just there for classroom management not actually teaching.

Friendlygingercat · Today 14:57

What a pity you never got that email. The computer shunted it into the SPAM file.

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