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Zia

46 replies

JeteGrand · 29/05/2026 17:28

Zia Yusef has just made a post on Facebook, he says:
White people are now demonstrably the biggest victims of racism in Britain.
I am inclined to agree? What are your thoughts?

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Jedentag · 29/05/2026 22:42

I agree

OneStarAwake · 29/05/2026 23:04

.

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JeteGrand · 30/05/2026 00:36

He also says
So powerful is the accusation of “racist” in Britain that it gives you the ability to stab someone fatally and have your victim handcuffed by the police.

Just as it made a security guard resist the urge to confront the Manchester Arena bomber before he murdered so many.

How many more innocent, beautiful British lives must be sacrificed at the altar of diversity?

How much more must we tolerate virtue signalling politicians who are willing to sacrifice their own people in this

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ColdAsAWitches · 30/05/2026 00:42

What a load of complete bullshit.

L1ttledrummergirl · 30/05/2026 00:52

He is such a fucking halfwit with a big mouth.

If he could explain his bosses extra £5m that might be useful, but whilst they are lying and dodging accountability and oversight, the whole party can fuck right off.

JeteGrand · 30/05/2026 00:52

Well I guess that is your opinion. I think he speaks the truth.

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L1ttledrummergirl · 30/05/2026 00:53

Ah feelz over evidence. You answered my question. Thanks.

JeteGrand · 30/05/2026 00:54

What on earth does 'feelz' mean? Good lord, what has happened to this country?

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Samia5 · 30/05/2026 04:41

I think there's plenty of racism against people of all ethnicities, including white people, in the UK. Unfortunately, racism seems to be one of those things humans are very prone to. The right wing only seems to care about racism against white people and the left wing only seems to care about racism against non-white people. It would be nice if everyone cared about all kinds of racism (and other bigotry) equally, but unfortunately that rarely seems to happen.

countrygirl99 · 30/05/2026 04:44

He may have a point though. You should hear what my racist white mum says about Eastern Europeans. But I doubt that's the point you're ineffectively trying to make.

SillydizzyGirl · 30/05/2026 04:56

I really think this stuff needs to stop on the left and right of the political spectrum. There's issues surrounding pretty much all races,genders and wealth levels below the absolutely mega rich but pointing fingers is easy and it won't end well for any of us if we continue down this path.

I know I'm not offering in grand solutions but maybe it's time for us to start listening instead of judging even if what's being said is something we disagree with and to respond without malice and anger. It's bloody hard to do that but it's got to be a better route than all this division.

HelmholtzWatson · 30/05/2026 05:06

OneStarAwake · 29/05/2026 23:04

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I've no reason to doubt this, but in the same way that mealy-mouthed rape gang apologists bleat about "most rapes being committed by white people", once you remove the per capita adjustment, then these numbers do prove that white people experience the most racism in the UK.

OneStarAwake · 30/05/2026 06:07

HelmholtzWatson · 30/05/2026 05:06

I've no reason to doubt this, but in the same way that mealy-mouthed rape gang apologists bleat about "most rapes being committed by white people", once you remove the per capita adjustment, then these numbers do prove that white people experience the most racism in the UK.

once you remove the per capita adjustment, then these numbers do prove that white people experience the most racism in the UK

Nope. That would actually be Asian people.

Here are the figures. The bolded part is rather important, don't you think? The population of E&W is about 61.8 m. I am sure you can do the maths...

In the year ending March 2024, there were 140,561 hate crimes recorded by the police in England and Wales – down by 5% compared with the previous year (147,645)
race hate crimes went down 5% from the previous year, from 103,625 to 98,799 offences

religious hate crimes went up by 25%, from 8,370 to 10,484 offences

7 in 10 of all hate crimes were racially motivated

across all police forces, 77,690 racially or religiously aggravated hate crimes were recorded in the year ending March 2024, and the ethnicity of the victims was known for 42,441 hate crimes

31.3% of victims of racially or religiously aggravated hate crime (where ethnicity was known) were Asian, 30.6% were White, and23.1% were Black

for comparison, White people made up 81.7% of the population of England and Wales at the 2021 Census – Asian people made up 9.3%, and Black people made up 4.0%

the victim’s ethnicity was not known for 45.0% of racially or religiously aggravated offences

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OneStarAwake · 30/05/2026 06:12

Anyway, it is pretty clear what Yusuf is up to. I don't think he will get the result he is hoping for though. Most people see through it.

Eta link for the figures in my pp

https://www.ethnicity-facts-figures.service.gov.uk/crime-justice-and-the-law/crime-and-reoffending/victims-of-racial-and-religious-hate-crime/latest/

Muffsies · 30/05/2026 06:26

JeteGrand · 29/05/2026 17:28

Zia Yusef has just made a post on Facebook, he says:
White people are now demonstrably the biggest victims of racism in Britain.
I am inclined to agree? What are your thoughts?

Would you rather swap places with an immigrant or someone of a different ethnic background? Do you really believe that their lives are easier and more privalleged than yours?

Zia is stirring up discontent, giving you an easy target to blame. It's a classic divide and rule political tacktic, used throughout human history. Peoole are so powerless and dumb they'd rather believe "they're eating your cats and dogs" than realise it's the immoral rich and greedy bastards getting into power that is the cause of all our hardships right now,

BIossomtoes · 30/05/2026 07:54

HelmholtzWatson · 30/05/2026 05:06

I've no reason to doubt this, but in the same way that mealy-mouthed rape gang apologists bleat about "most rapes being committed by white people", once you remove the per capita adjustment, then these numbers do prove that white people experience the most racism in the UK.

I think your maths is a little awry there.

MsJinks · 30/05/2026 15:52

I’m just wondering (hoping) if he will offer to be re migrated to Sri Lanka - you know lead the way in making britain white again.

JeteGrand · 30/05/2026 19:21

MsJinks · 30/05/2026 15:52

I’m just wondering (hoping) if he will offer to be re migrated to Sri Lanka - you know lead the way in making britain white again.

He was born in the UK.
Sri Lanka is a beautiful place though, I have had a couple of cracking holidays there. You should try not to be so racist.

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BIossomtoes · 30/05/2026 19:25

JeteGrand · 30/05/2026 19:21

He was born in the UK.
Sri Lanka is a beautiful place though, I have had a couple of cracking holidays there. You should try not to be so racist.

I think your irony detector is broken.

5128gap · 30/05/2026 20:37

HelmholtzWatson · 30/05/2026 05:06

I've no reason to doubt this, but in the same way that mealy-mouthed rape gang apologists bleat about "most rapes being committed by white people", once you remove the per capita adjustment, then these numbers do prove that white people experience the most racism in the UK.

White people are 80% of the population. Racism against white people accounts for 30% of racist incidents.
Or, to put it another way, 70% of the racist incidents in the UK are directed at the 20% of the population who are not white.
Now, I think we can agree, that 70% (directed at non white people) is more than 30% directed at white people?
And that 80% of the population (white people) is greater than 20% of the population (not white people)?
So can you explain to me how this means that white people experience more racism than non white people? Because I'm not sure the per capita thing helps you here in the way you think it does.

Northermcharn · 31/05/2026 16:55

I think with such a big claim we need statistics from you / Zia (that's auntie in Italian) to back it up. Got any?

There are statistics to show that Jewish people suffer more racism than Muslim people, in this country, proportionate to their population size, obviously. But that's a very different thing.

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