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How is this still acceptable in this day and age?

83 replies

Eumaybe · 29/05/2026 07:01

Picture attached, not sure it will show straight away, but it shows a photo of someone called David Ross sitting next to a table by Allen Jones.

YABU: it’s just art.
YANBU: appalling, just another example of sleazy male nonsense disguised as art.

How is this still acceptable in this day and age?
OP posts:
SpidersAreShitheads · 29/05/2026 14:36

BauhausOfEliott · 29/05/2026 10:46

The fact that it exists as a piece of Pop Art, which is deliberately controversial and meant to spark debate, is perfectly fine. People are allowed to make art which others might consider distasteful and artists are allowed to depict things which others (or the artists themselves) find unpleasant and distressing or repulsive. Art doesn't have to depict nice things.

The fact that David Ross has chosen to buy, display and most of all, be photographed with, that particular piece of art does, however, say a lot about David Ross - much more than it says about the artist, in fact. It certainly suggests he's a dickhead who wants to show off about having that specific piece of work on display in his home.

There's absolutely nothing wrong with the newspaper choosing to photograph him with it, though. They've done that to make a point about what sort of man he is, and they've done it very well. The photograph doesn't indicate approval - quite the opposite. It's very much a 'give him enough rope and he'll hang himself' situation - the journalist and photographer who went to his home to do that piece will have got the measure of the sort of person he is and are fully aware that this photo says 'This man is a twat' far more clearly than the journalist was probably able to do in the article.

So basically the artist isn't at fault, the newspaper isn't at fault. David Ross, however, is.

I agree with all of this.

Whether you think the art was made for sleaze reasons or whether you agree it sheds a light of the objectification of women, or whether you think it represents something else is irrelevant really.

Art can be disturbing, unsettling, revolting - and that’s probably as it should be because otherwise who decides what’s acceptable?

FWIW, I think this is not just hideously ugly, I find it really offensive. I don’t believe it was made with the intent to support women, especially given when it was made. It’s fucking awful in every way.

But I would always defend the right of the artist to make this.

Conversely, I absolutely would judge a man for choosing to have furniture like this in his home. I think it conveys a certain attitude towards women even though he clearly thinks he’s edgy and cool.

All credit to the photographer and journalist - it’s throwing shade at him and conveying a message to the audience without saying a word.

Henriettina · 29/05/2026 14:49

I waitressed at a birthday party for this delightful chap many many years ago. It involved sushi being served using almost-naked women as a plate. Vile.

ThreeStripeQueen · 29/05/2026 15:17

I made a chair out of a mannequin as part of my GCSE art in the 90’s. I was heavily inspired by pop art.

Commonsensemom · 29/05/2026 15:20

Sure does , typical . No class obviously

Commonsensemom · 29/05/2026 15:21

Gives me the ick

Whosthetabbynow · 29/05/2026 15:23

Too much money. Not enough taste.

henlake7 · 29/05/2026 15:42

Im not bothered by the artwork. It is from the 70s and probably brought up alot of questions and discussion at the time (I feel like feminism was going through abit of a fashionable revivial at the time so I can see how something blatantly objectifying like this, and his chair and hat stand, would be contraversial).
So whilst Im not creeped out by the artist or art I am creeped out by the super rich guy posing next to it. I mean what exactly is he trying to say?

BIossomtoes · 29/05/2026 15:54

I don’t think he’s trying to say anything. I think The Times has stitched him up and he was too naive to see it coming.

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